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Nicole would be allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs if her score were at least six points higher.

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New post 20 Mar 2019, 11:17
'if her score...' refers to a hypothetical scenario; therefore, we can eliminate c and d.
in order to choose the subjects nicole needed minimum 6 more points thus, 'b) were' can be eliminated as it is too extreme. in a similar sense, e is avoidable.
a is the right choice
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What is the subject? Is not her score the subject?

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What is the subject? Is not her score the subject
There are two subject-verb pairs in this sentence.

Nicole would be allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs if her score were at least six points higher.

We go for were even though score is singular as the sentence wants to present a hypothetical scenario.
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Can anyone explain why option B is incorrect? I cant find any difference between option A and B. Both are talking about the same thing.

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Can anyone explain why option B is incorrect? I cant find any difference between option A and B. Both are talking about the same thing.
I get your point, that most people will understand what you mean even if you go with B, but as arimich pointed out, it's likely that the author of this sentence wants to say that she ("Nicole") needs ≥ 6 points. Option B seems to limit us to exactly 6 points.
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New post 30 Mar 2019, 03:22
AjiteshArun: Thank your for the clarifications. I have one doubt here.

I understood the point that because A uses the SUBJUNCTIVE form.

But why is E wrong?

Can't we use Past perfect for situations that happened before another past event?

As i see here, She does not have 6 points higher when she applied for the courses. And thus she was denied admission. Both of these events happened in the past and not having a score high enough happened before she even applied to the course.


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AjiteshArun: Thank your for the clarifications. I have one doubt here.

I understood the point that because A uses the SUBJUNCTIVE form.

But why is E wrong?

Can't we use Past perfect for situations that happened before another past event?

As i see here, She does not have 6 points higher when she applied for the courses. And thus she was denied admission. Both of these events happened in the past and not having a score high enough happened before she even applied to the course.


MartyTargetTestPrep daagh GMATNinja egmat: I would appreciate your inputs too.
The person who made this sentence probably wants to present what option E says as a "past hypothetical". In such a case, we'd actually get a "would have been" in the result. However, before you take a look at the following examples, keep in mind that the usage of the conditional is not as clear-cut in English, and that this is not an official question.

1. Let's say that there's a report that predicts that the temperature increase due to global warming will be 3 degrees.

If the temperature increase were more than 4 degrees, a lot more international cooperation would be needed to avert disaster.
This means that in the (hypothetical) scenario that the increase "were" more than 4, a lot more international cooperation would be needed.

2. Now, let's say that the study discusses what happened in the past. The actual increase was 3 degrees.

If the temperature increase had been more than 4 degrees, a lot more international cooperation would have been needed to avert disaster.
This is talking about the past. If the past increase had been (again, this is hypothetical) more than 4, a lot more international cooperation would have been needed.

3. Similarly, in this question, the author would have asked for the following sentence if E had been the correct option:

Nicole would have been allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs if her score had been at least six points higher.
or, if we flip it:
If her score had been at least six points higher, Nicole would have been allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs.

However, because the non-underlined portion is fixed, we'll have to avoid choosing E.
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AjiteshArun wrote:
Vinit800HBS wrote:
AjiteshArun: Thank your for the clarifications. I have one doubt here.

I understood the point that because A uses the SUBJUNCTIVE form.

But why is E wrong?

Can't we use Past perfect for situations that happened before another past event?

As i see here, She does not have 6 points higher when she applied for the courses. And thus she was denied admission. Both of these events happened in the past and not having a score high enough happened before she even applied to the course.


MartyTargetTestPrep daagh GMATNinja egmat: I would appreciate your inputs too.
The person who made this sentence probably wants to present what option E says as a "past hypothetical". In such a case, we'd actually get a "would have been" in the result. However, before you take a look at the following examples, keep in mind that the usage of the conditional is not as clear-cut in English, and that this is not an official question.

1. Let's say that there's a report that predicts that the temperature increase due to global warming will be 3 degrees.

If the temperature increase were more than 4 degrees, a lot more international cooperation would be needed to avert disaster.
This means that in the (hypothetical) scenario that the increase "were" more than 4, a lot more international cooperation would be needed.

2. Now, let's say that the study discusses what happened in the past. The actual increase was 3 degrees.

If the temperature increase had been more than 4 degrees, a lot more international cooperation would have been needed to avert disaster.
This is talking about the past. If the past increase had been (again, this is hypothetical) more than 4, a lot more international cooperation would have been needed.

3. Similarly, in this question, the author would have asked for the following sentence if E had been the correct option:

Nicole would have been allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs if her score had been at least six points higher.
or, if we flip it:
If her score had been at least six points higher, Nicole would have been allowed to choose among the honors, enrichment, and liberal studies programs.

However, because the non-underlined portion is fixed, we'll have to avoid choosing E.


Wow, that cleared a whole bunch of doubts that had germinated in my mind. Thank you.
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New post 30 Mar 2019, 08:46
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Thank your for the clarifications. I have one doubt here.

I understood the point that because A uses the SUBJUNCTIVE form.

But why is E wrong?

Can't we use Past perfect for situations that happened before another past event?

As i see here, She does not have 6 points higher when she applied for the courses. And thus she was denied admission. Both of these events happened in the past and not having a score high enough happened before she even applied to the course.



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E is wrong because it doesn't use subjunctive form. Past perfect goes out the window with subjunctive. It's just something to memorise. Plus with if-then conditionals, specifically conditional perfects, an if + past perfect should be followed by would have - not would.

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