Hello to all this year Oxbridge applicants! Even though Oxford has not finalised the decisions for R4, the stages for 2010 admissions are already up. They seem to eliminate R4 and also moved the deadlines almost a month earlier – interesting. Cambridge have not changed their major admission schedule - they will have five rounds this year as well - but there is mentioning of introducing an online application system (similar to the Oxford one, I guess). Also, note that Cambridge did not give the deadlines for interview decisions - only the dates of the interview events. Good luck! Last year Oxbridge applicants thread Separating Oxford from Cambridge Oxford – Said Business School sbs.jpg Requirements : GMAT - average given for reference is 680 TOEFL 109 or IELTS 7.5 (note – this is compulsory, not reference!) Experience: usually 3+ years GPA: usually equivalent of no less than good UK 2.1 degree or 3.5 GPA 2009 Rankings : Financial Times – 20, Business Week non-US MBA - 10 Application cost : 125 GBP Official site: https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/mba/ Admissions on Facebook Admissions on Twitter Our Oxford Said information thread R1 Application deadline 9 October 2009 Interview decision by 30 October 2009 Final decision by 11 December 2009 R2 Application deadline 15 January 2010 Interview decision by 5 February 2010 Final decision by 12 March 2010 R3 Application deadline 2 April 2010 Interview decision by 30 April 2010 Final decision by 28 May 2010 Cambridge – Judge Business School JBS.jpg Requirements: GMAT – average given for reference is 690 (balanced score is required) TOEFL 100 with min 25 in writing or IELTS 7.0 (don’t know if they will change this) Experience: usually 3+ years GPA: usually equivalent of no less than UK 2.1 degree or 3.3 GPA 2009 Rankings : Financial Times – 17 Application cost : 100 GBP Official site: https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/mba/index.html Unofficial, but not uninteresting pages by their MBA Coordinator: Twitter , Blog . Note that the blog is mainly not about admissions, but about life in Cambridge. R1 Application deadline 12 Oct 2009 Interview day 23 or 30 Nov 2009 Decision 27 Nov or 4 Dec R2 Application deadline 23 Nov 2009 Interview day 18 or 25 Jan 2010 Decision 22 or 29 Jan 2010 R3 Application deadline 11 Jan 2010 Interview day 26 Feb or 1 or 8 Mar 2010 Decision 5 Mar or 12 Mar 2010 R4 Application deadline 8 Mar 2010 Interview day 23 or 26 Apr 2010 Decision 30 Apr 2010 R5 Application deadline 26 Apr 2010 Interview day 24 May 2010 Decision 28 May 2010

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Does anyone know about admits/applications rate for R3 at Oxford and R5 at Cambridge?
Also, does any admitted student know about the total number of admitted students in this year's previous rounds?

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Guys... i too got an admit mail yesterday. I am bit confused on making a final decision (on which school to choose). Does anyone know about the 2009 said placement stats?

Hi, in the FT MBA Global '10 ranking Oxford has an "% employed @ 3months" of 75% (only 63% respondents of the entire '08 class) and it's placed 84th out of a top 100 MBAs. Also the alumni placement effectiveness rank it's only 83th. I heard rumours that for the '09 class the figures aren't better, but ...

I think it depends on what to expect from the school: if it is expected that X recruiter to offer the dream job after a short interview at the school, probably there will be a major disappointment. Mr. Derek Walker (Director of Careers) stated clearly at an Open Day event that his team task is to provide the best career skills training and industry expertise, but the candidate has to make own efforts of finding a job. (He compared this exercise with a marathon tournament: he will be the trainer, will tell what, when, how to train but in the end it's EACH candidate who will compete in the marathon and is responsible for the result). Also, I don't think that in the actual job market Oxford is a good place for "triple jumpers", as Oxford does not have a clear summer internship program.

I think that Oxford it's good to build on your previous sector or regional experience and I hope they provide (at least) with a decent career skills training and networking opportunities to find a suitable job.

Buffdaddy, Greenoak, would you please share your experience so far with the career service team?

I agree with you.. For that matter any International MBA you cannot expect the career service to get you a job. You have to reach out and use your networks; career service just assists you to the best.

What worries me in making a final decision on accepting the SBS admit just the 2009 and 2010 placement stats. 2009 it was 59% and 2010 so far its 5%.

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Guys... i too got an admit mail yesterday. I am bit confused on making a final decision (on which school to choose). Does anyone know about the 2009 said placement stats?

You are right, Oxford placements stats are ones of the lowest among top 30 MBA. However, I would like to know about the 41% of '09 class who are unemployed after 3 months: is because they didn't get any offer or is because they got some offers but they preferred (and had the means) to continue to look for a better one?

For example, Cranfield SOM has 95% employed at 3m ('08 class) and ranks 38th at placement success rank. But on their web-site in the "career impact - recruitment speed and job satisfaction", only 30% alumni are very satisfied and 43% are reasonable satisfied; the rest are neither or fairly dissatisfied.

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Again I must remind you guys to think of the profile of the Oxford class. The larger the number of international applicants, the lower the 3-month employment data may be, depending on how many choose to stay in the UK to work and how many either look for work until they have to return back home or simply go home, take a break, and then look for work.

I get the feeling that most American top schools have a very high employment rate because most people end up working in the US, whereas Oxford and many other top European schools have higher mobility which hampers the 3-month data. 6-month data would be more accurate.

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any SBS admit form India (Mumbai, Pune area)....would be good to meet/ speak and look around for funding options.

Pls PM me, if you are interested.

Thanks /AP

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Hi all, I'm also an R2 admit...from Mumbai, India.

Anyone around Mumbai wanting to catch up with fellow admits can write to me: rishiphadke @ yahoo.com

Also, while it's great that many gmatclub members have got an invite, does anyone have any idea on the number of rejects? Is the adcom expecting a lower yield (which is not a good thing)? How is the acceptance rate this year as compared to the earlier years?

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I do think it's a little odd there is no notice of any deadlines in the acceptance mail. Just that "in due course" we will get a letter and in two weeks we'll get intranet access. I for instance have to choose between Cambridge and Oxford and the deadline for Cambridge is in the end of the month. However, it'd be nice to have both mailed acceptance letters with further info on fees, deadlines, and possible scholarships, before choosing...

It is also interesting that Cambridge does not offer a bursary until you've reserved a seat - and it is by no means granted that you get one. The bursary request is part of the financial form. Also, the Gates Cambridge Trust applications are still rolling. Basically, one must first choose to pay a deposit and then hope for a scholarship, whereas most American schools meet the candidate with an offer of admittance and a scholarship simultaneously.

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Does anyone know about admits/applications rate for R3 at Oxford and R5 at Cambridge?
Also, does any admitted student know about the total number of admitted students in this year's previous rounds?

There's no point worrying about this. The fact is that things are UGLY this year, and things are stacked against us. Many of us will not get into B-school, for no fault of ours.

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There's no point worrying about this. The fact is that things are UGLY this year, and things are stacked against us. Many of us will not get into B-school, for no fault of ours.

How much have the application amounts generally increased? I know some schools have quoted 100% rise in R2 but is that average or more or less than average?

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There's no point worrying about this. The fact is that things are UGLY this year, and things are stacked against us. Many of us will not get into B-school, for no fault of ours.

How much have the application amounts generally increased? I know some schools have quoted 100% rise in R2 but is that average or more or less than average?

my 2 cents..

Due to the TOEFL requirement change this year, the pool shouldn't have increased a lot. 109/120 is insanely high as a minimum for international students. For your information, 100/120 is general requirement in most programs. (HBS 108 / Chicago 104)

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Has any R2 applicant received his/her package from SBS?

What's inside?

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Due to the TOEFL requirement change this year, the pool shouldn't have increased a lot. 109/120 is insanely high as a minimum for international students. For your information, 100/120 is general requirement in most programs. (HBS 108 / Chicago 104)

True, the initial screening does remove a lot of candidates who do not match the criteria on work experience, mid 80% GMAT range, and the TOEFL. 109 is insanely high. My score is 116 and those 4 missed points were one here, another there, divided between sections. If I'd made a couple of more unfortunate mistakes, I would have landed below 109.

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Has any R2 applicant received his/her package from SBS?

What's inside?

The package will be sent later this week, it should probably arrive during next week or the week after.

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Will it have any information on the Saïd business school scholarship outcome?

By the way, I just got an email from Vodafone foundation, requesting an essay by the end of the month.

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Will it have any information on the Saïd business school scholarship outcome?

By the way, I just got an email from Vodafone foundation, requesting an essay by the end of the month.

I was told that the Said scholarship will also be decided until the end of the week and will be announced by an separate email. The email you received refers to the Said Technology Scholarship offered by Vodafone Foundation for students interested in technology only.

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Yes, I applied for the Vodafone scholarship. I also just received a mail from the adcom stating that successful SBS scholarship applicants were notified by email yesterday.

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Yes, I applied for the Vodafone scholarship. I also just received a mail from the adcom stating that successful SBS scholarship applicants were notified by email yesterday.

Got today the emails regarding the Said & Man scholarships- congrats for the lucky shortlists, I'm not among them, still hoping for the Vodafone one :wink:

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I've been trying to find information about other scholarships, as well. Apparently the Gates Cambridge Trust interview invites will be sent out in March and they have not all gone out yet. Also, other Cambridge Trust scholarship outcomes will be announced in April. Most Cambridge college scholarship application deadlines are in March-April, so R3 admittants will have a tough time meeting the deadlines.

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I'm a Said R3 applicant.

Since you all have practically been through the admissions process now, do you feel that Judge is more competitive to get into than Said? Have you observed that one has a higher acceptance rate than the other?

Just trying to get an idea from recent veterans.

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Cambridge were pretty quick in sending over the acceptance forms etc. Hopefully Oxford gets a move on! In fairness, they've sent a fair few emails over the past few days RE scholarships, and speaking to an Oxford alum. They will surely be aware of the Cambridge decision deadline next week. It's not in their interests to delay past this point.