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05 Aug 2021, 08:16
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Can someone please explain me the relationship between the two terms in the header. I'm interested especially about two posts of Magoosh -
1. https://magoosh.com/gmat/participle-phr ... -the-gmat/
Although Jefferson opposed slavery on philosophical grounds, he owned a plantation with several hundred slaves.
here he says there is a participial phrase inside a subordinate clause and that's why we need a subject (highlighted).
2. https://magoosh.com/gmat/gmat-grammar-s ... junctions/
Though polite and refined in person, Boris Karloff was known for playing monsters on screen
here he says it's a subordinate clause with an adjective phrase so we can remove the subject (we don't have Boris Karloff in the dependent clause).
can you please explain me the logic behind his answers? why because at the first one we have participial phrase we need the subject and in the second sentence we don't need it.
1. https://magoosh.com/gmat/participle-phr ... -the-gmat/
Although Jefferson opposed slavery on philosophical grounds, he owned a plantation with several hundred slaves.
here he says there is a participial phrase inside a subordinate clause and that's why we need a subject (highlighted).
2. https://magoosh.com/gmat/gmat-grammar-s ... junctions/
Though polite and refined in person, Boris Karloff was known for playing monsters on screen
here he says it's a subordinate clause with an adjective phrase so we can remove the subject (we don't have Boris Karloff in the dependent clause).
can you please explain me the logic behind his answers? why because at the first one we have participial phrase we need the subject and in the second sentence we don't need it.
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05 Aug 2021, 09:57
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To be honest, johnGrishem, you could rewrite either sentence to look more like the other. It all depends on the type of sentence the author chooses to write, nothing more. (There is no fundamental grammatical dichotomy to discuss here.)
1.2) Although opposed to slavery on philosophical grounds, Jefferson...—Notice that the addition of to (and deletion of Jefferson) has turned opposed into a participle, whereas before, the same word was used as a verb within the subordinate clause.
2.2) Though he was polite and refined in person, Boris Karloff...—Stick a pronoun and a verb in the beginning of the sentence, and now the former participle has changed into a subordinate clause. It is not magic, just basic grammar at work.
I would urge you to adopt a less rigid, more meaning-based approach to SC to make the task simpler. If you know how to identify a participle (and, by extension, a participial phrase) or a subordinate clause, then you are off to a good start.
Good luck with your studies.
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06 Aug 2021, 00:45
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Thanks for your answer AndrewN!
I'll clarify my question a bit. In the first link the author says that we must have the subject (Jefferson) because it's a subordinate clause -
7b) Although Jefferson opposed slavery on philosophical grounds, he owned a plantation with several hundred slaves.
but on the second link the author says that we can omit the subject and verb of the subordinate clause -
10a) Though [he was] polite and refined in person, Boris Karloff was known for playing monsters on screen.
Why can we do it on the second sentence and not on the first one? They look exactly the same to me.
I'll clarify my question a bit. In the first link the author says that we must have the subject (Jefferson) because it's a subordinate clause -
7b) Although Jefferson opposed slavery on philosophical grounds, he owned a plantation with several hundred slaves.
but on the second link the author says that we can omit the subject and verb of the subordinate clause -
10a) Though [he was] polite and refined in person, Boris Karloff was known for playing monsters on screen.
Why can we do it on the second sentence and not on the first one? They look exactly the same to me.
