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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax

(B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures

(C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figure

(D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax

(E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
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Firstly marcodonzelli I very much agree with you to have high scores we all need to reason our answers.
I did most of the times.But missed a few :lol:

Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
Eliminated=>
1. because of having is wordy.
2. "of having" and "for having" not parallel

(B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
Hold it
(C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
not parallel ... its very clear
(D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
not parallel ... its very clear ;
1. X became as well ( known ...) as ( having ...)
2. X became well as much ( for .... ) as ( for ...)
I find the construction [2] better than [1].

(E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
Same as D

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Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.



E

Everything else lacks ||ism.


A: as much because as for... not ||
B:wordy
C: same problem as A
D: not || missing the for

Also ABC lack the intent of the sentence as well known... is correct. it encompases the "well known" which is more clear.

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34. Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

'Became well known as' is preferred to 'Became as well known'. Eliminate D, E
C - as she was - wrong - as she is may be correct - Eliminate
B for having is not parallel with for skillful wax rendering. - Eliminate
Answer = A. rendered maintains past tense correctly. having maintains parallelism.
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A is clearly wrong, the correct idiom should be "as much for ... as for ..."

Thanks Billy. It goes to my notes.


I think, we should care the words next to "for" also. For example, I choose B because B satifies the rule: "as much for...as for". But B wrong! :lol:


hey sondenso,
I noticed that too, but B is wrong for a different reason, it's not parallel.
The phrase after the for's are not parrallel. if they are both none then it will be okay.
say "as much for its eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures".

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B exhibits poor parallelism - "having an eccentric personality" is a participial phrase, "skillful wax renderings" is a noun phrase.

There is only one answer that includes only parallel structures.
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E.

B and E are contenders.
Now, in B something which is possessed by Wright is compared with something which he/she is doing.

In E, something which Wright possesses(personality) is compared with something which Wright possesses(skillful renderings)

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Hi Experts,
In the following question:

Q:Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

Could any body explain 'became well known' or 'became as well known' is correct?

Also for me B is looking good because as much ......as is idiomatically correct...and the the phrases following as much and as are also parallel....

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The given text is a test of symmetrical //ism in a two part sentence. This is not testing the correctness of either 'became well known' or 'became as well known'. Both are correct in their own right in appropriate contexts.


(A) well known ‘as much because of having an eccentric personality ‘as for having’ ------- un//.


(B) well known ‘as much for having an eccentric personality’ ‘as for skillful wax renderings’ of popular public figure. …..un//

(C) well known ‘as much because of her’ eccentric personality ‘as she was for’ her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures. …..un//

(D) as well known ‘for having an eccentric’ personality ‘as having skillfully’ rendered popular public figures in wax. ----- un//

(E)’as well known for her eccentric’ personality ‘as for her skillful wax renderings’ of popular public figures. …… // correct choice


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Also for me B is looking good because as much ......as is idiomatically correct...and the phrases following as much and as are also parallel...


Nope; B flouts the //ism by missing something similar to ‘having’ in the second arm
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(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

If you have to say two things are equally beautiful, using 'as', you will not say as much beautiful- simply, as beautiful, right? Thus, as well known is correct.

(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

'having' indicating possession- if she is having an eccentric personality, it is 'her' personality. similarly, the figures made are also 'her' work. E seems most appropriate, and simply worded.

Hence, the correct choice is E

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Q:Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

as much because is unidiomatic and awkward- hence a, and c are out.

having is just verbose - it is not required. So b and d are out.

But if E were not right and one had to pick between B and D, i would go with B. I think D is superficially parallel and also introduces "as well known" which leans towards a comparison.

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Check the explanations out here:

http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pat ... t1991.html

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34. Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

Is there any differences between "well known as much~" and "as well known~" in terms of meaning.


Only choice E is parallel. Even though those who chose choice B presume that "having" is gerund, gerund cannot be paralleled with concrete noun. Different between "well known as much ~" and "as well known", I think it is the same, but the core we need to parallel here is adj "well know" rather than "much".
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[quote="amitanand"]Hi Experts,
In the following question:

Q:Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax

choice a: bad parallelism
because of... is not parallel to for...

(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
choice c: extremely bad parallelism
- one part is a phrase (because of ...), and the other part is a complete clause (she was for her ...) - same issue as choice a, because vs. for

(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
choice d: bad parallelism
- you can't get rid of the 'for' in the second part (it should be '...as for having...')
- wordy (compare with the compact wording in choice e)


(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

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Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.


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The key to get to the right answer is to understand the meaning of the sentence. This sentence is about Patience Lovell Wright who travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 years. Wright became well known for two reasons:
1. For her eccentric personality.
2. For her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

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The entities following both the “as” must be parallel to each other.

POE:

(A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.: Incorrect for the reason discussed above.

(B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures. Incorrect. Again the entities following “as” are not parallel. We need something parallel “having” after the second “as”.

(C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures. Incorrect. Again, the entities following the two “as” are nit parallel.

(D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax. Incorrect. “for having” after first “as” in not parallel to “having” after the second “as”.

(E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures. Correct. “for her…” is parallel to “for her skillful…”.

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1. In a list, the entity following the first marker should be parallel to the entity following the second marker.
2. We should use comparative degree (much) only when we are comparing two entities.

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As much as X as Y
As X as Y

Does both have the same meaning.????


Hi AMITAGARWAL2

As far as I know, you're comparing two structures:
(1) adjective as X as Y
(2) as + adjective + X as [adjective] + Y


The difference between the two is the position of the adjective. If we use grammars correctly, the meanings of two structures are the same. A major of problem of this structure is parallelism.

For example:
(1) Peter is attractive as for his good looking face as for his sport abilities.
(2) Peter is as attractive for his good looking face as [attractive] for his sport abilities.

Two sentences have the same meaning.

Back to the question, you can see option B and E for details.
B: ....well known as much for X as for Y.
E: ....as well known for X as [well known] for Y.

Technically, if X and Y are parallel, there is no problem. Option, B, nonetheless, is wrong because "for having ..." and "for her skillful..." are not grammatically parallel. The correct structure should be "for having X as for having Y".

Only option E, which say Lovell Wright became well known for two reasons: "her eccentric personality" and "her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures" is correct.

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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.


The idiom in play is "as well.....as".
A, B, & C are incorrect. D is wrong because "as well known for having....as having" is not parallel. for l l having.
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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
(C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
(D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

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For the above question in the link, choice E is the correct answer. However, I have a question regarding choice A. I read all responses mentioning A is not parallel. But my question is in Choice A,
"because of" - preposition
"having eccentric personality" - gerund phrase
similarly
"for" - preposition
"having ....." - gerund phrase
Since both are followed by "preposition & gerund phrase", why is A not parallel? I really appreciate your explanation.
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Dear maaadhu,
This is a subtle issue about parallelism. When prepositional phrases are in parallel, then as a general rule (not 100%, but a general rule), parallelism requires the same preposition. Especially if the parallelism is a comparison of two elements, so that we are striving to show the contrast of these two elements as clearly as possible, then parallelism almost always demands the same preposition. Think about the poor general reader of this sentence. This reader starts finding out about Ms. Wright, and when the reader gets to the words "became as well known for ...", the poor reader has to keep track of the fact that (1) thing #1, immediately after those words, will be something Ms. Wright was known for; (2) a some point latter in the sentence, there will be a thing #2, that is also something Ms. Wright was known for; (3) the sentence is saying that Ms. Wright was known for thing #1 and thing #2 equally well. That's a ton of logical connections all at once! If we are demanding that much of the reader, at the very least, we want to make it crystal clear where thing #1 ends and thing #2 begins, and we do that by using the exact same preposition as a marker of the transition.

In shorter sentences, in which the structure is not complicated, we might use two different prepositions, but in a longer sentence such as this, we need to repeat the same preposition for clarity.

Does all this make sense?
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in the pattern "for having" , "having" is used as gerund, which refers to a general action rather than the action of a specific noun in the main clause. This use is not logic because "having" should refer to "wax" in the main clause.

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in the pattern "for having" , "having" is used as gerund, which refers to a general action rather than the action of a specific noun in the main clause. This use is not logic because "having" should refer to "wax" in the main clause.

is my thinking correct? pls comment.

Dear Vietmoi,
I'm happy to respond. :-)

It's perfectly correct that "having", where is appears, is a gerund. A gerund isn't inherently wrong in this context --- it's just that the parallelism is very tricky. For example, if we tweaked (A) to say:

Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

That's correct --- two gerunds in perfect parallelism ---- ".... know as much for having P as for having Q." Admittedly, the way (E) expresses the idea is even more eloquent, but this phrasing is grammatically correct, including correct parallelism. The use of gerunds is fine. Here's an article on gerunds:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... d-phrases/

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