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12 Jul 2014, 13:57
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Hi all,
Sorry for asking a topic that that has been asked before, but from my search most topics were a few years old, or reflected scores much higher than mine.
I took my first GMAT today, so besides the normal pre-test jitters I felt pretty good going into the test. I felt my AWA response was strong giving me confidence going into the IR section. I'm not really sure what happened during IR, but there was a group of questions that I just could not process. There was something with the verbiage used that completely threw me off and I got sucked into a cycle of reading and re-reading, which caused me to use WAY too much time and lead to me guessing the remaining questions. All being said I ended up scoring a 3 (25% percentile), which I am very upset with. In practice tests I have been scoring between 70-90% percentile on MGMAT/GMAC practice tests.
I am pleased with my overall score, 690 (47Q, 37V). I feel I left some points on the table in the verbal section, however, quant is always my weakness and I did about as good as I could hope to score in that section. Overall, this is the highest I've scored on any practice test although the performance and question difficulty felt similar to my practice tests. My question is, is there enough information out there now about how schools view the IR section scores when evaluating a candidate? I will most likely take the test again, but I am worried that I may improve my IR score and then end up doing worse in quant and possibly scoring lower than a 690.
What are your thoughts gmatclub community? Grounds for a retake?
For reference (if it matters): Age: 27, WE: 4 years (Military - Logistics), GPA: 3.35, UG: Mid Tier State School in FL - Management/Finance
Sorry for asking a topic that that has been asked before, but from my search most topics were a few years old, or reflected scores much higher than mine.
I took my first GMAT today, so besides the normal pre-test jitters I felt pretty good going into the test. I felt my AWA response was strong giving me confidence going into the IR section. I'm not really sure what happened during IR, but there was a group of questions that I just could not process. There was something with the verbiage used that completely threw me off and I got sucked into a cycle of reading and re-reading, which caused me to use WAY too much time and lead to me guessing the remaining questions. All being said I ended up scoring a 3 (25% percentile), which I am very upset with. In practice tests I have been scoring between 70-90% percentile on MGMAT/GMAC practice tests.
I am pleased with my overall score, 690 (47Q, 37V). I feel I left some points on the table in the verbal section, however, quant is always my weakness and I did about as good as I could hope to score in that section. Overall, this is the highest I've scored on any practice test although the performance and question difficulty felt similar to my practice tests. My question is, is there enough information out there now about how schools view the IR section scores when evaluating a candidate? I will most likely take the test again, but I am worried that I may improve my IR score and then end up doing worse in quant and possibly scoring lower than a 690.
What are your thoughts gmatclub community? Grounds for a retake?
For reference (if it matters): Age: 27, WE: 4 years (Military - Logistics), GPA: 3.35, UG: Mid Tier State School in FL - Management/Finance
12 Jul 2014, 20:24
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So.... we do not have have a good reference yet about the integration reasoning section. In the last 2 years (since 2012) schools have generally ignored it. Very low scores like yours have potentially raised questions but high GPA's and high Quant scores usually off-set it.
However, I expect it to change in about 6-18 month time frame.
1. The first candidates who took the IR section have graduated and GMAC will do a nice little regression to show schools how relevant it is
2. It usually takes them a few months to do the study of GPA/employability/etc and then analyze another 3 months, and then they will issue their research - Dec 2014 is my guess.
I think you should retake since:
1. 3rd percentile is really bad. 50th would be passable but 3rd is terrible
2. it will take you one week to raise your score from 3rd to 67th percentile.
3. It will matter more for your class
4. You may score more on the GMAT in general (if you keep current and fresh), and that may help your case/profile though it is quite strong from what I see.
5. Your quant score is not fabulous - you can do better as a Finance/Logistics person. This shows that you did not take the test very seriously (sloppy IR score, and sloppy for your field quant score) - Schools want people putting out max effort.
Hope this helps.
However, I expect it to change in about 6-18 month time frame.
1. The first candidates who took the IR section have graduated and GMAC will do a nice little regression to show schools how relevant it is
2. It usually takes them a few months to do the study of GPA/employability/etc and then analyze another 3 months, and then they will issue their research - Dec 2014 is my guess.
I think you should retake since:
1. 3rd percentile is really bad. 50th would be passable but 3rd is terrible
2. it will take you one week to raise your score from 3rd to 67th percentile.
3. It will matter more for your class
4. You may score more on the GMAT in general (if you keep current and fresh), and that may help your case/profile though it is quite strong from what I see.
5. Your quant score is not fabulous - you can do better as a Finance/Logistics person. This shows that you did not take the test very seriously (sloppy IR score, and sloppy for your field quant score) - Schools want people putting out max effort.
Hope this helps.
13 Jul 2014, 08:36
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BB, thanks for your advice, it does help. I am glad I asked the question as many gmatclub members that did poorly last year were given the advice to not retake. As the IR section has now been around for a bit I figured maybe the guidance would be different.
I was planning on retaking the test in 4-5 weeks in an attempt to crack a 700, but your advice solidifies that decision. Worst case is I have a 690 in the bag and will be able to significantly improve IR to show that it was a fluke. Unfortunately, that's about as good as I have been able to do in quant thus far. It has never been my strong suit. However, who knows with an additional month of study anything is possible.
