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26 Aug 2013, 08:40
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Hello,
So I completed the GMAT for the first time five weeks ago - 660 was my final score. I was initially happy with it, but over time I realised the score imbalance was possibly a problem.
To wit: 39Q (46%), 41V(93%), 5.5 AWA and 6 IR. A rather poor Quant score, I'm sure all would agree. First time, I think I let my nerves get the best of me, and I was rushing at the end.
I aim to get my applications out to the following schools within the next month or two:
(Please Note: I am applying to their MSc Management or Master's in Management programs, NOT MBA).
- ESSEC
- HEC Paris
- EM Lyon
- ESCP Paris
- HEC Montreal
(I'm also considering an MBA application to Rotman in Toronto and INSEAD in France, as I was advised that with 2+ yrs work exp, I am eligible technically. Not sure how my chances are there, especially with such a lopsided GMAT).
With my GMAT of 660, I have a GPA a hair under 3.0/4.0 from my undergraduate degree in Management/Communications from the University of Toronto. Rough first years (due to personal issues), but substantial improvement in last two years.
I have 2+ years worth of work experience:
- 16 months as a junior systems analyst in a consulting firm for Microsoft ERP business software
- 5 months in the IT department of a local distributor/retailer for 5 months
- several summer internships, including 2 month-long stints in a Hungarian factory (worked on the plant floor and in the sales/marketing offices).
I am bilingual, English is my first language with French my second, and I also have French citizenship. I'll be 24 in December, and it's two years since I graduated from University of Toronto. I live currently in the Caribbean.
What are my chances of admission or obtaining at least an interview with any of these schools? Should I retake the GMAT, or focus on my applications now?
Thank you for your consideration and any advice would be greatly appreciated?
So I completed the GMAT for the first time five weeks ago - 660 was my final score. I was initially happy with it, but over time I realised the score imbalance was possibly a problem.
To wit: 39Q (46%), 41V(93%), 5.5 AWA and 6 IR. A rather poor Quant score, I'm sure all would agree. First time, I think I let my nerves get the best of me, and I was rushing at the end.
I aim to get my applications out to the following schools within the next month or two:
(Please Note: I am applying to their MSc Management or Master's in Management programs, NOT MBA).
- ESSEC
- HEC Paris
- EM Lyon
- ESCP Paris
- HEC Montreal
(I'm also considering an MBA application to Rotman in Toronto and INSEAD in France, as I was advised that with 2+ yrs work exp, I am eligible technically. Not sure how my chances are there, especially with such a lopsided GMAT).
With my GMAT of 660, I have a GPA a hair under 3.0/4.0 from my undergraduate degree in Management/Communications from the University of Toronto. Rough first years (due to personal issues), but substantial improvement in last two years.
I have 2+ years worth of work experience:
- 16 months as a junior systems analyst in a consulting firm for Microsoft ERP business software
- 5 months in the IT department of a local distributor/retailer for 5 months
- several summer internships, including 2 month-long stints in a Hungarian factory (worked on the plant floor and in the sales/marketing offices).
I am bilingual, English is my first language with French my second, and I also have French citizenship. I'll be 24 in December, and it's two years since I graduated from University of Toronto. I live currently in the Caribbean.
What are my chances of admission or obtaining at least an interview with any of these schools? Should I retake the GMAT, or focus on my applications now?
Thank you for your consideration and any advice would be greatly appreciated?
26 Aug 2013, 14:27
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Hi there,
Fair warning - I'm about to say something you might not like. If your GMAT score was what it is and you had an average GPA, I would say go ahead and apply. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. a <3.0 GPA coupled with a 46th percentile in Quant and a 650 overall isn't exactly a beacon for managing academic rigor.
Generally, we steer away from using percentile splits because, as you know, they move around and in quant especially they aren't exactly indicative. I mean, a 7Xth percentile with a 49 doesn't paint the story accurately. However, a quant score lower than 40 and a 46th percentile will raise some flags.
If you found your nerves frayed and yourself rushing at the end, it tells me a little time management and strategy development would do a lot for you when you retake the GMAT.
I think you should retake the GMAT - I don't care too much if your total score goes up (obviously, I want it to!) but I'm more concerned about the quant. There's nothing you can do about your GPA at this point but you can definitely improve your GMAT.
Postpone the apps for the time being and aim for a later round. You're going to get a far better shot applying with an improved GMAT than you would just by applying R1.
I hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions!
Bhavik
Fair warning - I'm about to say something you might not like. If your GMAT score was what it is and you had an average GPA, I would say go ahead and apply. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. a <3.0 GPA coupled with a 46th percentile in Quant and a 650 overall isn't exactly a beacon for managing academic rigor.
Generally, we steer away from using percentile splits because, as you know, they move around and in quant especially they aren't exactly indicative. I mean, a 7Xth percentile with a 49 doesn't paint the story accurately. However, a quant score lower than 40 and a 46th percentile will raise some flags.
If you found your nerves frayed and yourself rushing at the end, it tells me a little time management and strategy development would do a lot for you when you retake the GMAT.
I think you should retake the GMAT - I don't care too much if your total score goes up (obviously, I want it to!) but I'm more concerned about the quant. There's nothing you can do about your GPA at this point but you can definitely improve your GMAT.
Postpone the apps for the time being and aim for a later round. You're going to get a far better shot applying with an improved GMAT than you would just by applying R1.
I hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions!
Bhavik
26 Aug 2013, 15:00
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Ha, that's fine, in fact, definitely preferable. I got the feeling from the moment I saw 39Q that it might be problematic.
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Okay, thanks for the recommendation, concise and straightforward! Two questions:
1. What in fact are the advantages of applying to Rd 1 versus a later round (Rd 3/4)? I'm asking so I get a better insight into the admissions process.
2. What would be a better balanced score or an acceptable score for Quant? Assuming my Verbal score remains constant?
