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Profile Evaluation: Engineer w/ experience, higher GMAT but lower GPA.

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New post 15 May 2018, 18:54
Longtime lurker, but now that I've taken the GMAT and am actually prepping for applications, thought I'd start putting this out there. I appreciate your thoughts and honest feedback.

Background

Work experience:

4 years at a large manufacturing company supporting various engineering functions. 1 promotion with a lot of high visibility projects that I've been able to run or support (capacity improvements, health and safety initiatives - projects over $1MM). I recently moved into more of an automation engineering function and have really loved the 'coding' aspect (more on this later). Helped develop a reverse mentoring program at work to help educate men about struggles women face in the workplace. Recently won a national award (nominated by my company) for women in tech.

Extra-curriculars:

UG - Student body president, Sorority president, Honor Society president, Academic Tutor (won Employee of the Year), Created and ran a Student Speaker series my senior year attended by over 500 people.
Post-Grad - President of women engineering group at company, volunteer twice a month with local high school students teaching them about engineering, volunteer monthly with local Society of Women Engineers section with younger females encouraging them to pursue engineering, volunteer twice a month with a food pantry.

Race/nationality:

Asian American

Gender:

Female

Stats

GMAT Score:

780 - (couldn't believe it - had been scoring consistently 750s in practice tests)

Undergrad GPA:

3.3 Chemical Eng (more on this later)

Undergrad Info:

Small engineering school (nationally recognized)

MBA Info

Goal of MBA:

I've enjoyed working in operations/manufacturing, but I want to understand a larger scope of business besides running a plant. I've also really enjoyed learning more about coding in my job and have been taking programming classes on the side - I'd want to move into either an operational or functional leader role in a tech company while continuing to develop those skills.

Target schools:

Harvard, Stanford, Kellogg, Sloan, Darden, Johnson

Questions:

I had to retake a class in undergrad - how do I address this in my application?

I am really invested and motivated by promoting gender equality in the workplace, particularly in tech and engineering - how can I best display this in my application and (hopefully?) interviews without coming off insincere?
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Re: Profile Evaluation: Engineer w/ experience, higher GMAT but lower GPA.  [#permalink]

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New post 15 May 2018, 21:47
EnginerdMBA wrote:
Longtime lurker, but now that I've taken the GMAT and am actually prepping for applications, thought I'd start putting this out there. I appreciate your thoughts and honest feedback.

Background

Work experience:

4 years at a large manufacturing company supporting various engineering functions. 1 promotion with a lot of high visibility projects that I've been able to run or support (capacity improvements, health and safety initiatives - projects over $1MM). I recently moved into more of an automation engineering function and have really loved the 'coding' aspect (more on this later). Helped develop a reverse mentoring program at work to help educate men about struggles women face in the workplace. Recently won a national award (nominated by my company) for women in tech.

Extra-curriculars:

UG - Student body president, Sorority president, Honor Society president, Academic Tutor (won Employee of the Year), Created and ran a Student Speaker series my senior year attended by over 500 people.
Post-Grad - President of women engineering group at company, volunteer twice a month with local high school students teaching them about engineering, volunteer monthly with local Society of Women Engineers section with younger females encouraging them to pursue engineering, volunteer twice a month with a food pantry.

Race/nationality:

Asian American

Gender:

Female

Stats

GMAT Score:

780 - (couldn't believe it - had been scoring consistently 750s in practice tests)

Undergrad GPA:

3.3 Chemical Eng (more on this later)

Undergrad Info:

Small engineering school (nationally recognized)

MBA Info

Goal of MBA:

I've enjoyed working in operations/manufacturing, but I want to understand a larger scope of business besides running a plant. I've also really enjoyed learning more about coding in my job and have been taking programming classes on the side - I'd want to move into either an operational or functional leader role in a tech company while continuing to develop those skills.

Target schools:

Harvard, Stanford, Kellogg, Sloan, Darden, Johnson

Questions:

I had to retake a class in undergrad - how do I address this in my application?

I am really invested and motivated by promoting gender equality in the workplace, particularly in tech and engineering - how can I best display this in my application and (hopefully?) interviews without coming off insincere?



EnginerdMBA,
1) Heartiest Congratulations on your GMAT score. Great job.
2) Your overall professional track has also a great potential for a rich story. With good applications, except for Stanford, your targets are well within reach. Stanford may be too, but will more details will help.
3) To answer your questions,
a) Aided by your excellent GMAT score, you can be forthright about your retaking a class. The Ad Com is human as well, and understands that **** happens. If you have a demonstrable capacity however, to win over such, and come out victorious, you have the potential to make them your champions.
b) Most of your drive towards "promoting gender equality in the workplace" will come through instances in your life, small ones which will together help you weave a consistent image of your passion and firm belief. Going through your detailed profile, I have a feeling it is not going to be difficult.

Feel free to connect for more.
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Re: Profile Evaluation: Engineer w/ experience, higher GMAT but lower GPA.  [#permalink]

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EnginerdMBA wrote:
Longtime lurker, but now that I've taken the GMAT and am actually prepping for applications, thought I'd start putting this out there. I appreciate your thoughts and honest feedback.

Background

Work experience:

4 years at a large manufacturing company supporting various engineering functions. 1 promotion with a lot of high visibility projects that I've been able to run or support (capacity improvements, health and safety initiatives - projects over $1MM). I recently moved into more of an automation engineering function and have really loved the 'coding' aspect (more on this later). Helped develop a reverse mentoring program at work to help educate men about struggles women face in the workplace. Recently won a national award (nominated by my company) for women in tech.

Extra-curriculars:

UG - Student body president, Sorority president, Honor Society president, Academic Tutor (won Employee of the Year), Created and ran a Student Speaker series my senior year attended by over 500 people.
Post-Grad - President of women engineering group at company, volunteer twice a month with local high school students teaching them about engineering, volunteer monthly with local Society of Women Engineers section with younger females encouraging them to pursue engineering, volunteer twice a month with a food pantry.

Race/nationality:

Asian American

Gender:

Female

Stats

GMAT Score:

780 - (couldn't believe it - had been scoring consistently 750s in practice tests)

Undergrad GPA:

3.3 Chemical Eng (more on this later)

Undergrad Info:

Small engineering school (nationally recognized)

MBA Info

Goal of MBA:

I've enjoyed working in operations/manufacturing, but I want to understand a larger scope of business besides running a plant. I've also really enjoyed learning more about coding in my job and have been taking programming classes on the side - I'd want to move into either an operational or functional leader role in a tech company while continuing to develop those skills.

Target schools:

Harvard, Stanford, Kellogg, Sloan, Darden, Johnson

Questions:

I had to retake a class in undergrad - how do I address this in my application?

I am really invested and motivated by promoting gender equality in the workplace, particularly in tech and engineering - how can I best display this in my application and (hopefully?) interviews without coming off insincere?


First of all, your profile is really impressive, so I see no school as being out of reach for you.

As for retaking that class, I see it as a minor issue in this case, as the rest of your profile is so great so just be honest. Was there any particular reason this happened? If so, addressing that reason, straight and to the point, without dwelling on it or making excuses would be the way to go.

As for your second question, make sure you read up on the women’s clubs and associations at the schools you are considering, as they might be of interest to you first of all, but second of all, it shows that you are interested in continuing this path in the future, too, and it is not something you have been dealing with up until admission to a school only.

Here are some links to illustrate what I mean and to get you started:
https://www.hbs.edu/mba/blog/post/meet-the-hbs-womens-association
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/alumni/communities/womens-programs
https://kellogg.campusgroups.com/wba/who-we-are/

Hope that helps and the best of luck to you!
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I think you have a great background and based on product managers I have worked with at Google and Facebook, I think you would be a great candidate for that role as well, especially if you like coding. The other role you might consider is Technical Program Manager as well - fairly common post-MBA position where business acumen and coding ability are both valued.

I bring up these two roles in particular because your post-MBA career goals should ideally drive your target school selection. You mentioned "Harvard, Stanford, Kellogg, Sloan, Darden, Johnson" as the schools you are interested in, but have you also considered Haas? The school places over 1/3 of the class into tech and has one of the highest tech median starting salaries as well. Furthermore, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and a host of startups all recruit heavily from there.

Regarding your questions:
1) A simple optional essay explaining your GPA (if your GPA is in the bottom 10th percentile for a given MBA program i.e. Stanford) and the fact that you had to re-take a class will suffice. How you approach the optional essay will be key though.

2) Regarding gender equality in the workplace (particularly tech / engineering), actions (even future intended actions) will carry the most weight. I think the two examples you listed are fantastic demonstrations of you commitment and you can also discuss additional activities / initiatives you can engage in during business school (i.e. helping to organize the Women in Tech conference: https://www.womenintechnology.org/). Haas in particular has a really active Women in Leadership club and annual conference (https://www.wilconference.org/).

Feel free to PM if I can help with anything else :-)


EnginerdMBA wrote:
Longtime lurker, but now that I've taken the GMAT and am actually prepping for applications, thought I'd start putting this out there. I appreciate your thoughts and honest feedback.

Background

Work experience:

4 years at a large manufacturing company supporting various engineering functions. 1 promotion with a lot of high visibility projects that I've been able to run or support (capacity improvements, health and safety initiatives - projects over $1MM). I recently moved into more of an automation engineering function and have really loved the 'coding' aspect (more on this later). Helped develop a reverse mentoring program at work to help educate men about struggles women face in the workplace. Recently won a national award (nominated by my company) for women in tech.

Extra-curriculars:

UG - Student body president, Sorority president, Honor Society president, Academic Tutor (won Employee of the Year), Created and ran a Student Speaker series my senior year attended by over 500 people.
Post-Grad - President of women engineering group at company, volunteer twice a month with local high school students teaching them about engineering, volunteer monthly with local Society of Women Engineers section with younger females encouraging them to pursue engineering, volunteer twice a month with a food pantry.

Race/nationality:

Asian American

Gender:

Female

Stats

GMAT Score:

780 - (couldn't believe it - had been scoring consistently 750s in practice tests)

Undergrad GPA:

3.3 Chemical Eng (more on this later)

Undergrad Info:

Small engineering school (nationally recognized)

MBA Info

Goal of MBA:

I've enjoyed working in operations/manufacturing, but I want to understand a larger scope of business besides running a plant. I've also really enjoyed learning more about coding in my job and have been taking programming classes on the side - I'd want to move into either an operational or functional leader role in a tech company while continuing to develop those skills.

Target schools:

Harvard, Stanford, Kellogg, Sloan, Darden, Johnson

Questions:

I had to retake a class in undergrad - how do I address this in my application?

I am really invested and motivated by promoting gender equality in the workplace, particularly in tech and engineering - how can I best display this in my application and (hopefully?) interviews without coming off insincere?
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New post 12 Jul 2018, 11:03
Would echo the comments already posted. In response to your specific questions:

I had to retake a class in undergrad - how do I address this in my application?

A number of ways to approach this, but candidly displaying an understanding of why it happened, what you learned/how you addressed it, and the positive impact it's had is the right way. Whether you lost focus and that now drives you to never do the same, or personal issues interfered and you got in over your head, or any other outcomes, weaving this in as part of your personal arc displays self-awareness and commitment to improvement. Highly consider in your essays (including in the optional, if you can't work into the main).

I am really invested and motivated by promoting gender equality in the workplace, particularly in tech and engineering - how can I best display this in my application and (hopefully?) interviews without coming off insincere?

It won't come off insincere if you believe it. Show, don't tell in your essays through (a) related personal narratives and (b) truthful, precise color on your plans around gender equality.

Mission-driven rings true with many adcoms - it's critical to really show your investment. Essays highlighting where you've seen lack of gender equality and how that impacted you, or highlighting the things you've already done that support this passion will be a good start. Painting a crystal clear picture of how you plan to deploy your motivation post-grad in promoting gender equality is equally important - what do you actually want to do in relation to this?
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