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Businessconquerer,

Comments inline.

"Okay, don't call me harsh, I am saying this because you my friend can be in harvard, if fate id faithful of course"
Did you mean, "If fate is faithful?" And did you mean, "You, my friend, can be admitted to Harvard?"

"I cannot see you giving anything back to society here, if you are involved in community service and lead teams of volunteers on weekends or outside of work, do mention it"
Do you mean, "From your profile, I don't really see where you've given back to society," or do you mean, "I cannot see you giving anything back to society?" Your wording is confusing. How does this help answer my questions?

"A clear post MBA goal is very crucial, if you wanna stay at your firm then why do you need an MBA for, right? This question might come up"
Okay, don't call me harsh, but you do know what MBB is, right? From your response, it doesn't seem like you do. It's a pretty common feeder industry after MBA as well, and it's common for people to come back to Management Consulting after their MBA. My MBB will also Sponsor my MBA.

"Try out the bill and Melinda gates foundation."
Are you saying try to start working for them? Are you saying volunteer with them? Look them up and model after them? What do you mean? It would help if you were more specific. I am quite confused.
"Or start a social service of your own, get your office to contribute. It is possible."
Same basic questions as above.

"And look, there is more than one way to give back, You don't always have to travel to Africa (No offence to UNICEF)"
Right, but again, looking for substance here, not theory. I understand that there are multiple ways to give back. If you read the questions that I posted again, You'll see that I'm looking for blind spots more than I am looking for "give back."

"Try to grab any promotion opportunity that comes up. Trust me, if you are promoted, it sends a clear signal that you did something right, even if all you did was ask for it"
Right

"Why aren't you applying now?"
I've only been working for a half a year, and I don't think that my experience is substantial enough to get into my target schools.

"I think if you try in a few schools now, you still stand a chance"
Thank you for the confidence.

"Try to start up if you can/want, as it makes your profile stand out and shows that you have an entrepreneurial spirit"
I'm currently working at MBB, and I don't really need to have a startup to go to business school. Also, I have already tried my hand at startups in college. One was successful as a lifestyle business the others were not.

"Well that's most of what I can say looking at this but definitely you can get into a top bschool with a 730"
Right, I agree that that is true for the most part, but with MC background and an over-represented majority background is it still enough? That's the real question.

"I can guarantee you that GMAT won't be the reason that B-schools won't consider your candidacy, it could be other factors"
Same response as above

"But you can certainly give it again as schools do give you scholarships for higher score"
Not a concern of mine
I feel like my response didn't help you or has offended you in a way.
It's kind of obvious that the "d" and "s" are close so it could be a typo, you, as a management consultant could have figured that small part out.

Regarding being more specific, yes! volunteer for the NGOs. By starting the NGO, I don't mean that you should follow their business model.
Anyhow, I don't feel that my response has helped or done any good to you coz it truly feels like you don't like it. Coz it kind of feels like you just critiqued my typos, language, grammar and tone, well everything but that.

You are not a highly overrepresented person- just a lil over represented
In college applications there is a section that suggests if your employer is sponsoring you, just mark yes on that and I think the B-schools can take a breath of sigh and not worry about the placement thing.

I never said people don't go back to the same firm, it is just that when you frame the story that isn't strong enough to appeal the adcom, you might be dinged.
Check out the decision trackers of the currently admitted students, you can see for yourself, as a pattern as to whom B-schools are taking in
Sorry for wasting your time and thank you for correcting my grammar; I was aware of some of them but didn't care much for it.
But I truly would say, not as a way of retaliating but for your B-school process and time there, Humility adds points.
Good Luck with your application
And bb could be able to tell you more about this :)
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I apologize if I came across blunt and uncaring. This is not my intention, it is merely the way that I communicate on forums: I find that if information is unclear it is not helpful for the next person to read the post (whether it be the original poster or a casual viewer later on), and I'd rather use precise language than equivocate..

You have not offended me.

Thank you for the additional comments and insights.
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I apologize if I came across blunt and uncaring. This is not my intention, it is merely the way that I communicate on forums: I find that if information is unclear it is not helpful for the next person to read the post (whether it be the original poster or a casual viewer later on), and I'd rather use precise language than equivocate..

You have not offended me.

Thank you for the additional comments and insights.

I am not an expert, but a 730 GMAT is still 95-96 percentile. Yes, a higher score always helps, but this is sufficient. You will not get rejected bc your GMAT was too low. GMAT right now is not a plus or a minus for you (grades are a plus which is good here), so you'll need to highlight how you are a leader and what your EQ is.

As far as clubs, you probably work 80 hours a week, just the clubs you are in are sufficient. Actually be involved in them though.

Apply across the M7/T10 and you should get into multiple (would add a place like Tuck as a safety and then Booth for you). I had a 730 and I got in from the Finance Bucket, which might even be worse than applying from MC from a GMAT perspective.

I wouldn't emphasize coming from humble circumstances, because you are so accomplished. Bring it up when you talk about why you are involved in some of the extracurriculars you chose.

Find when the M7 schools are hosting admissions events in your city, from there talk to MBB people from your office who went to B school, I am sure the firm has plenty of resources on this for you.
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I apologize if I came across blunt and uncaring. This is not my intention, it is merely the way that I communicate on forums: I find that if information is unclear it is not helpful for the next person to read the post (whether it be the original poster or a casual viewer later on), and I'd rather use precise language than equivocate..

You have not offended me.

Thank you for the additional comments and insights.

For me, I think you need interview practice.

You come across by your posts as really robotic, even if you got an interview, if this is a representation of who you are, you will put people off. So, from a professional perspective, to seek out opportunities to cultivate soft skills.
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Thank you.

This is not even remotely how I sound in real life. It is merely the way I communicate on forums.

Do you have any insights into the questions in the original post? It's okay if you do not.

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I apologize if I came across blunt and uncaring. This is not my intention, it is merely the way that I communicate on forums: I find that if information is unclear it is not helpful for the next person to read the post (whether it be the original poster or a casual viewer later on), and I'd rather use precise language than equivocate..

You have not offended me.

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It is fine, besides, text is no way to communicate
Try not to say that to the interviewer, he might not like it
1) Should I retake my 730 GMAT to get a higher score?
No
2) In the couple of years until I apply, what should I be focusing on to be a top candidate?
Volunteer for NGO, Start up, show ways you can make world a better place (broad but hard), show how you can contribute more to the organisation with an MBA, take superstar projects, see for vacancies and apply for promotion.
3) Are there any "blind spots" or things that I should look out for (like opportunities, pitfalls, movements, etc.) as I start to work on my profile for the next couple of years?
It varies from person to person. Don't get assaulted/accused of bad behaviour, if accused at least don't get convicted
4) How can I leverage my "humble circumstances" to make my profile more appealing? Is it enough to overcome the negative stigma of being another straight white male applicant?
Not to worry on that
5) What is the best way for someone like me to start engaging in the community?
"Search online"
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DeepBis

Thank you.

This is not even remotely how I sound in real life. It is merely the way I communicate on forums.

Do you have any insights into the questions in the original post? It's okay if you do not.

Posted from my mobile device

I pretty directly replied to question 3 of your original post.
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Thank you.

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Hi there, and thanks for writing! To answer your questions:

1) Should I retake my 730 GMAT to get a higher score? Since you have the time and are applying to the very top schools , I would give it another shot given that you're applying from a competitive demographic (white male consultant).
2) In the couple of years until I apply, what should I be focusing on to be a top candidate? Continuing to progress at your firm and take on responsibilities outside your immediate job description (such as mentoring incoming analysts or leading trainings). It's awesome that you're starting that affinity group, so continue to make progress on that, focusing on the impact you can make in the next two yers
3) Are there any "blind spots" or things that I should look out for (like opportunities, pitfalls, movements, etc.) as I start to work on my profile for the next couple of years? Make sure to take the time to research each program, go to info sessions/events/campus visits, and speak to students/alumni - that way, when it is application time, you will be prepared to discuss why each program is a fit for you based on its culture and resources.
4) How can I leverage my "humble circumstances" to make my profile more appealing? Is it enough to overcome the negative stigma of being another straight white male applicant? In the essays, as appropriate you can definitely tell the story of your background in a way that shows who you are and the circumstances that have shaped you
5) What is the best way for someone like me to start engaging in the community? You'll be doing so through the affinity group, but if you're able to do additional mentorship outside of work (as a continuation of your college involvement) that could be beneficial as well. And, these is no "wrong" way to engage in the community, so consider other areas of passion (sports, college alumni relations) as well

Hope that helps a bit - Happy New Year!!













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Hey there! This post is probably about 2 years early, but I wanted to get some information and advise so that I can best plan out the next couple of years before I apply. My specific questions are listed at the end of the post.

· Demographics: United States Citizen, born and raised. Straight white male.

· Education: Undergrad at a decent private university (like top 50), 3.95 GPA, Major in Genetics and Biotechnology

· GMAT or GRE: Current GMAT is 730 (47Q 44V 8IR 6AWA). Past GREs were 166v 157q and 161v 160q, with 5's on both essays (92nd percentile).

· Work experience: Currently at MBB. During college I worked as an Associate at a Venture capital fund and at various successful and unsuccessful startups. No international exposure, no promotions as of yet.

· Extracurricular activities: Founder of a STEM to Business club at undergrad. Volunteered as a mentor with a small-business mentorship program (help them understand financials, how to market your service, basics of starting a business, etc.). Currently starting an affinity group at my MBB for first generation college graduates or those from low income backgrounds.

· Post-MBA goals: Stay at my MBB long term, specializing in Biotechnology and healthcare

· Target schools: HBS, GSB, Wharton, MIT, Kellogg

· Other information relevant to your profile: I'm from a trailer park and I'm the first in my family to graduate from college. Eagle Scout.

· Any specific questions you would like answered by our team:
I understand that recruiting from consulting to a top MBA is a bit different than from other places, so my questions are:
1) Should I retake my 730 GMAT to get a higher score?
2) In the couple of years until I apply, what should I be focusing on to be a top candidate?
3) Are there any "blind spots" or things that I should look out for (like opportunities, pitfalls, movements, etc.) as I start to work on my profile for the next couple of years?
4) How can I leverage my "humble circumstances" to make my profile more appealing? Is it enough to overcome the negative stigma of being another straight white male applicant?
5) What is the best way for someone like me to start engaging in the community?

Thanks!
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