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11 Feb 2016, 08:33
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Hello everyone. I bet this has been posted a few times, but I need to know your views and opinions. Sorry for eventual repetition.
I have no math knowledge. When I say this I mean NO KNOWLEDGE. My level is like 7th grade. I never understood math.
Recently I started studying finance on my own and I got the idea of taking a Msc in Finance. I have a useless degree in hospitality management that has no quant what so ever in it. I never managed to learn high school math either, I only passed because I cheated\professors liked me. So now I have to take GMAT and have a 700+. Why? Well that's the only way to impress the admisions jury. I have no other way to show that I can learn math. And guess what, I really became interested in math since I started learing finance. I really find math to be a very interesting science and finally, years later I want to learn it!!! I went through a couple KhanAcademy mid-highschool lessons and got it all.
Now GMAT.. I started learning GMAT on the 10th Jan 2015. I took the diag. test from OG and I couldn't even understand the questions. I had no idea of what was being asked. So I bought MGMAT 6th ed books. One month later (start Jan 2016) I was finished with them and I thought I could do better on the exam. WRONG I could understnad the questions and I understood what the exam is all about, but I couldn't solve anything.
I got Veritas books ans started also doing lots of exercised here in gmatclub. So I was done with half of Veritas, I can do most of their exercises. But when it comes to gmatclub and other problems\execises I can´t do almost anything. This is 2 months since I started learning GMAT and math from scratch.
So, question... Whats up with me? I mean is this normal? Please take into account that 2 months ago I couldn't tell the difference between artihmetics and algebra. But 2 months of full-time study (like 8h\day) and this is the "result"?..
I never understood the ins and outs of math. I just feel that I don't have the "mathy" creativity to approach the problems. Maybe I should postprone the MSC thing for one year and just learn math during this year? What other books on math would you advise me to read? Like Indian high school books for example? I feel that I need to expand my math learning beyond the GMAT. When I try solving a new problem, I get how it was solved, but I then I can´t apply what I learned on the next problem. It seems that there is an endless ocean of new info on GMAt math and I can't grasp it.
What u guys think?
Thank you all for the attention!
I have no math knowledge. When I say this I mean NO KNOWLEDGE. My level is like 7th grade. I never understood math.
Recently I started studying finance on my own and I got the idea of taking a Msc in Finance. I have a useless degree in hospitality management that has no quant what so ever in it. I never managed to learn high school math either, I only passed because I cheated\professors liked me. So now I have to take GMAT and have a 700+. Why? Well that's the only way to impress the admisions jury. I have no other way to show that I can learn math. And guess what, I really became interested in math since I started learing finance. I really find math to be a very interesting science and finally, years later I want to learn it!!! I went through a couple KhanAcademy mid-highschool lessons and got it all.
Now GMAT.. I started learning GMAT on the 10th Jan 2015. I took the diag. test from OG and I couldn't even understand the questions. I had no idea of what was being asked. So I bought MGMAT 6th ed books. One month later (start Jan 2016) I was finished with them and I thought I could do better on the exam. WRONG I could understnad the questions and I understood what the exam is all about, but I couldn't solve anything.
I got Veritas books ans started also doing lots of exercised here in gmatclub. So I was done with half of Veritas, I can do most of their exercises. But when it comes to gmatclub and other problems\execises I can´t do almost anything. This is 2 months since I started learning GMAT and math from scratch.
So, question... Whats up with me? I mean is this normal? Please take into account that 2 months ago I couldn't tell the difference between artihmetics and algebra. But 2 months of full-time study (like 8h\day) and this is the "result"?..
I never understood the ins and outs of math. I just feel that I don't have the "mathy" creativity to approach the problems. Maybe I should postprone the MSC thing for one year and just learn math during this year? What other books on math would you advise me to read? Like Indian high school books for example? I feel that I need to expand my math learning beyond the GMAT. When I try solving a new problem, I get how it was solved, but I then I can´t apply what I learned on the next problem. It seems that there is an endless ocean of new info on GMAt math and I can't grasp it.
What u guys think?
Thank you all for the attention!
11 Feb 2016, 10:55
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Hi iliavko,
If what you describe about your 'history with math' is true, then you'll have to make up for YEARS of math classes/practice/exposure before you deal with anything Quant-related on the GMAT. Thankfully, that work probably won't take years to complete, but you'll clearly have to spend more time on the process than you have so far.
The good news is that the Quant section of the GMAT is predictable, and the 'math' that is tested is limited to a few broad categories. Beyond having the necessary knowledge though, you have to be a strong critical thinker and organizer, so that you can see when 'lots of math' is not necessary to get to the correct answer. To hit your goal score, you will certainly need to invest a lot of time into this entire process.
1) How comfortable are you with the various math subjects presented in the OG (not the questions, just the Math Review section)?
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
3) When are you planning to apply to Grad School?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
If what you describe about your 'history with math' is true, then you'll have to make up for YEARS of math classes/practice/exposure before you deal with anything Quant-related on the GMAT. Thankfully, that work probably won't take years to complete, but you'll clearly have to spend more time on the process than you have so far.
The good news is that the Quant section of the GMAT is predictable, and the 'math' that is tested is limited to a few broad categories. Beyond having the necessary knowledge though, you have to be a strong critical thinker and organizer, so that you can see when 'lots of math' is not necessary to get to the correct answer. To hit your goal score, you will certainly need to invest a lot of time into this entire process.
1) How comfortable are you with the various math subjects presented in the OG (not the questions, just the Math Review section)?
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
3) When are you planning to apply to Grad School?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
11 Feb 2016, 12:17
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Rich thank you for your fast reply.
Yes, unfortunately the "math history" discribed in my post is 100% true, I didn't exagerate one bit of it.. I just skipped math my entire life and now it came back at me. Full-force lol...
In reply to your questions, I am getting pretty confortable with the concepts, I mean I understand them, but it's like I just had a week of contact with each section of Quant. By section I mean Algebra\Geo\Inequalities-modules. Like I never understood what a function was untill recently or what a module was (except the "makes-it-all-positive" BS high school definition). So I am kinda making progress with the concepts, but damn, I am learning it all from such a low level that I feel I just need practice and TIME so it all sticks to my brain. Plus I noticed that all the math is inter-connected, so it's hard to move forward without a firm grasp on the core concepts.
This brings us to the other two qustions, When is my GMAT and when do I apply for grad school. GMAT is the 26th Feb. (bye-bye 250$) and the application deadline for most of grad-schools is end of Feb\March\May. So every month that passes, I have less options and more places get filled. That's why I am kinda considering leaving it till next year. The only problem with it is that I am 29 years old and the older I get, the slimmer my chances of getting a job in finance industry.
Regarding my difficulties, this is the type of problem I just can't understand. I see how it's done, I get it, on the next one I have no idea of what to do.
On July 1 of last year, total employees at company E was decreased by 10 percent. Without any change in the salaries of the remaining employees, the average (arithmetic mean) employee salary was 10 percent more after the decrease in the number of employees than before the decrease. The total of the combined salaries of all the employees at Company E after July 1 last year was what percent of that before July 1 last year?
So yeah, I guess I need more exposure to different situations and perhaps it will start building up in my brain.
Do you know of any good Indian books on GMAT math? I heared they are good in it!
Lots of thanks for your reply!
Yes, unfortunately the "math history" discribed in my post is 100% true, I didn't exagerate one bit of it.. I just skipped math my entire life and now it came back at me. Full-force lol...
In reply to your questions, I am getting pretty confortable with the concepts, I mean I understand them, but it's like I just had a week of contact with each section of Quant. By section I mean Algebra\Geo\Inequalities-modules. Like I never understood what a function was untill recently or what a module was (except the "makes-it-all-positive" BS high school definition). So I am kinda making progress with the concepts, but damn, I am learning it all from such a low level that I feel I just need practice and TIME so it all sticks to my brain. Plus I noticed that all the math is inter-connected, so it's hard to move forward without a firm grasp on the core concepts.
This brings us to the other two qustions, When is my GMAT and when do I apply for grad school. GMAT is the 26th Feb. (bye-bye 250$) and the application deadline for most of grad-schools is end of Feb\March\May. So every month that passes, I have less options and more places get filled. That's why I am kinda considering leaving it till next year. The only problem with it is that I am 29 years old and the older I get, the slimmer my chances of getting a job in finance industry.
Regarding my difficulties, this is the type of problem I just can't understand. I see how it's done, I get it, on the next one I have no idea of what to do.
On July 1 of last year, total employees at company E was decreased by 10 percent. Without any change in the salaries of the remaining employees, the average (arithmetic mean) employee salary was 10 percent more after the decrease in the number of employees than before the decrease. The total of the combined salaries of all the employees at Company E after July 1 last year was what percent of that before July 1 last year?
So yeah, I guess I need more exposure to different situations and perhaps it will start building up in my brain.
Do you know of any good Indian books on GMAT math? I heared they are good in it!
Lots of thanks for your reply!
. But I agree applying them to the GMAT is hard and that was where I know I had the most difficulties. Work on your weakest areas: answering easy questions wrong is what will hurt your score the most.
