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I don't think anyone is saying that Israel is NOT one of the most advanced countries etc., but if you scroll through past posts on this forum, the majority of posters are interested in MBAs in the US, Canada, the UK, a handful of EU countries, India, Singapore and Australia. While there are those interested in programs in other countries, such as yourself, my comment only meant that the majority have not expressed an interest. I seem to recall posts from a couple of years ago about Israeli MBA programs, but I do not see them often at all.
My advice would be to contact the school and talk to admissions, current students, alumni, recruiters in your target field etc., to get a better concept. Or try other forums. A quick Google search told me that find-mba and gmbat have threads on Israeli MBAs.
Hope this helps, and good luck
09 Mar 2013, 11:25
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Tsinghua and PKU should be together, but I disagree with current Tsinghua rank.
CEIBS is in another level and is a true RE, having double the starting salaray compared to Tsinghua/PKU and average GMAT is about 40 points higher than PKU and Tsinghua.
I would put Tsinghua and PKU a tier lower or not include them on this list.
The schools themselves are very very good, but that doesn't mean their MBA program is elite. Also, what most Westerners know of PKU's MBA is their IMBA which isn't the same as their FMBA and I would argue their FMBA is an RE, but IMBA is not, same for Tsinghua. (Both FMBA is taught in Chinese while IMBA is English)
CEIBS is in another level and is a true RE, having double the starting salaray compared to Tsinghua/PKU and average GMAT is about 40 points higher than PKU and Tsinghua.
I would put Tsinghua and PKU a tier lower or not include them on this list.
The schools themselves are very very good, but that doesn't mean their MBA program is elite. Also, what most Westerners know of PKU's MBA is their IMBA which isn't the same as their FMBA and I would argue their FMBA is an RE, but IMBA is not, same for Tsinghua. (Both FMBA is taught in Chinese while IMBA is English)
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Originally posted by alphaoasis on 09 Jul 2016, 12:42.
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Hey Guys, thought I'd throw my two cents in the bowl.
I agree with the cluster approach and the OP definitely put some work into his clustering.
My take (in the above clustering):
IMD is absolutely in the Ultra Elite cluster.
IE, AGSM, and Bocconi are in the Elite cluster. Bocconi and IESE edge out the other Elites, presently (these things do change a bit over time).
Manchester straddles the line between Near Elites and Elites. Lancaster should probably NOT be in the Trans Elite cluster. Warwick (a solid program) should be in the Trans Elite cluster. And the Trans Elite cluster probably is more regional specific for the included programs (excluding Manchester, which should be bumped up).
Regional elites:
APAC
- China. It's CEIBS and global elites. Chinese definitely prefer global Elites (including US programs) and enough go to those to provide an edge. Inside China for life? Check out Forbes' MBA ranking specific to China.
- HK-UST; of course counts both in China and APAC.
- AGSM is big in the APAC. UNSW is highly respected (university for AGSM).
- Singapore and overall APAC. INSEAD. Full stop.
German Speaking World (Germany, Austria, Liechtenstein, Switzerland)
These guys aren't big on MBAs. But top business programs are St. Gallen, Mannheim, and WHU. Global Elites are very respected (includes IMD, of course). But no matter the program, you are better off speaking German as well as fluent English. ESMT, probably is worth looking at as well, if you want an MBA.
Canada
Desautels, Ivey, and Queen's. Rotman MBA has potential as undergrad is very respected globally.
I agree with the cluster approach and the OP definitely put some work into his clustering.
My take (in the above clustering):
IMD is absolutely in the Ultra Elite cluster.
IE, AGSM, and Bocconi are in the Elite cluster. Bocconi and IESE edge out the other Elites, presently (these things do change a bit over time).
Manchester straddles the line between Near Elites and Elites. Lancaster should probably NOT be in the Trans Elite cluster. Warwick (a solid program) should be in the Trans Elite cluster. And the Trans Elite cluster probably is more regional specific for the included programs (excluding Manchester, which should be bumped up).
Regional elites:
APAC
- China. It's CEIBS and global elites. Chinese definitely prefer global Elites (including US programs) and enough go to those to provide an edge. Inside China for life? Check out Forbes' MBA ranking specific to China.
- HK-UST; of course counts both in China and APAC.
- AGSM is big in the APAC. UNSW is highly respected (university for AGSM).
- Singapore and overall APAC. INSEAD. Full stop.
German Speaking World (Germany, Austria, Liechtenstein, Switzerland)
These guys aren't big on MBAs. But top business programs are St. Gallen, Mannheim, and WHU. Global Elites are very respected (includes IMD, of course). But no matter the program, you are better off speaking German as well as fluent English. ESMT, probably is worth looking at as well, if you want an MBA.
Canada
Desautels, Ivey, and Queen's. Rotman MBA has potential as undergrad is very respected globally.
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IMD (Switzerland) should be in ULTRA ELITE
IIM A (INDIA) should be in ELITE or a new category should be made "REGIONAL ULTRA-ELITE"
CEIBS in should be in ELITE or a new category should be made "REGIONAL ULTRA-ELITE"
IE shouldn't be this list.
Rest I agree pretty much
IIM A (INDIA) should be in ELITE or a new category should be made "REGIONAL ULTRA-ELITE"
CEIBS in should be in ELITE or a new category should be made "REGIONAL ULTRA-ELITE"
IE shouldn't be this list.
Rest I agree pretty much
