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Rejecting the apprenticeship model of training social workers in philanthropic agencies, twentieth-century reformer Edith Abbott was convinced of social work education belonging in the university so that students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social issues.


A. of social work education belonging in the university so that

B. that social work education should be in the university, and that

C. about the importance of social work education belonging in the university while

D. that social work education belonged in the university, where

E. of the necessity of social work education being in the university and


My take:
convinced that, so A, C and E out.
Between B and D.
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues--> has to be subordinated to the main clause so B out.
The idiom is belong to, so D out.

One more time, Im with F.

Originally posted by noboru on 07 Jul 2010, 10:06.
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I ruled out A, C,E. Between B and D,B shows parallelism and D says BELONGED IN..which does not look ok.Please advice why D is correct.

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Hi Shipra,

Thanks for posting your question here. :-)

Let's talk about the intended meaning of the sentence first. The sentence says that Abbot rejected the apprenticeship model of training social workers in philanthropic agencies because he was sure that the social work education must be imparted at the university level. Why did he think so? He thought so because he felt that students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social issues. So per the original sentence he was only convinced of a single point. The part starting with "so that" presents the reasoning for his conviction.

Now Choice B is grammatically as well as logically incorrect.

1. It is logically incorrect because the forced parallelism in the sentence now conveys that Abbot was convinced of two things. The second entity in the list is no more the reasoning for his convictions.
2. The grammatical flaw in the sentence is usage of "should be". The usage of this verb now suggests that inclusion of the social work education in university is his command or demand that must be met. The inclusion appears to be his diktat rather than his belief.

Choice D indeed is the correct answer as it clearly conveys the intended meaning. The phrase "belonging in" is absolutely correct. It is the university that the said education belong. Commonly, we use the phrase "belong to" which means someone owns something. Here we cannot use "belong to" because the university does not own the social work education. It "belongs in" the university as in its right place is in the university.

Hope this helps. :)
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B is a gmat trap (fake that parallelism) I will point that in a bit.

Convinced is "persuasive" form of belief. It means very sure. Remember the subjunctive? Does it use should / would??

"that parallelism" works like this :
that............and that...........

E.g convinced that .............. and that.......
However look at the meaning. The use of "and" disintegrates the old sentence where you were talking about "social work". suddenly started talking about "student". Edith Abbott will be very unhappy :-D

What are you convinced about if I disintegrate the sentence into two parts -

social work education should be in the university - still not convinced, I need more explanation !
where students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social issues. ---> that is the evidence I need for being convinced.

Common sense overrides any grammar rules (parallelism) :wink:

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Nusmavrik: D also uses "convinced that". So why then is B out but not D?
I selected B, because of "belonged in" >> Thought was that the wrong idiom usage in D weighs over the wrond conjuntion "and" used to connect the sub-ordinate clauses :(.


nusmavrik wrote:
"convinced that." should is prohibited So B is OUT.

D it is.

noboru wrote:
Rejecting the apprenticeship model of training social workers in
philanthropic agencies, twentieth-century reformer Edith Abbott was
convinced of social work education belonging in the university so that
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues.

A. of social work education belonging in the university so that
B. that social work education should be in the university, and that
C. about the importance of social work education belonging in the university while
D. that social work education belonged in the university, where
E. of the necessity of social work education being in the university and

My take:
convinced that, so A, C and E out.
Between B and D.
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues--> has to be subordinated to the main clause so B out.
The idiom is belong to, so D out.

One more time, Im with F.
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I'm with F - LOL! My take is D. We need "that" to connect the phrase - leaving us with B and D. The 'students offered" phrase is logically connected to the conviction as previously stated and D connects these ideas perfectly.
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I'm with F - LOL! My take is D. We need "that" to connect the phrase - leaving us with B and D. The 'students offered" phrase is logically connected to the conviction as previously stated and D connects these ideas perfectly.


But in D belonged in is not the idiom...
Please clarify.
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RGM wrote:
I'm with F - LOL! My take is D. We need "that" to connect the phrase - leaving us with B and D. The 'students offered" phrase is logically connected to the conviction as previously stated and D connects these ideas perfectly.


But in D belonged in is not the idiom...
Please clarify.


Belong in is a correct idiom when trying to express something being in it's right place.
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"convinced that." should is prohibited So B is OUT.

D it is.

noboru wrote:
Rejecting the apprenticeship model of training social workers in
philanthropic agencies, twentieth-century reformer Edith Abbott was
convinced of social work education belonging in the university so that
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues.

A. of social work education belonging in the university so that
B. that social work education should be in the university, and that
C. about the importance of social work education belonging in the university while
D. that social work education belonged in the university, where
E. of the necessity of social work education being in the university and

My take:
convinced that, so A, C and E out.
Between B and D.
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues--> has to be subordinated to the main clause so B out.
The idiom is belong to, so D out.

One more time, Im with F.
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Nusmavrik: D also uses "convinced that". So why then is B out but not D?
I selected B, because of "belonged in" >> Thought was that the wrong idiom usage in D weighs over the wrond conjuntion "and" used to connect the sub-ordinate clauses :(.


nusmavrik wrote:
"convinced that." should is prohibited So B is OUT.

D it is.

noboru wrote:
Rejecting the apprenticeship model of training social workers in
philanthropic agencies, twentieth-century reformer Edith Abbott was
convinced of social work education belonging in the university so that
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues.

A. of social work education belonging in the university so that
B. that social work education should be in the university, and that
C. about the importance of social work education belonging in the university while
D. that social work education belonged in the university, where
E. of the necessity of social work education being in the university and

My take:
convinced that, so A, C and E out.
Between B and D.
students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social
issues--> has to be subordinated to the main clause so B out.
The idiom is belong to, so D out.

One more time, Im with F.
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IMO it is D. The choice was between B and D.

B. that social work education should be in the university, and that - The second 'That' makes the statement wordy, secondly the subject was 'Convinced' a strong word that refers to solidity but the choice B follows up with the word 'Should' that refers to 'might be' a probable scenario. There is a Logic mismatch, hence RULED OUT!

D. that social work education belonged in the university, where - First - Convinced is followed by 'that social work education BELONGED...'! Solid statement. Second- where modified the University which is absolutely logical in structure. - Correct
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I ruled out A, C,E. Between B and D,B shows parallelism and D says BELONGED IN..which does not look ok.Please advice why D is correct.

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A is wrong mainly because of the idiom 'convinced of.' When we report an author's thinking, it customary to report his philosophy in a relative clause starting with 'that.'
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sarah1234 wrote:
Hi,
I ruled out A, C,E. Between B and D,B shows parallelism and D says BELONGED IN..which does not look ok.Please advice why D is correct.

Shipra



Hi Shipra,

Thanks for posting your question here. :-)

Let's talk about the intended meaning of the sentence first. The sentence says that Abbot rejected the apprenticeship model of training social workers in philanthropic agencies because he was sure that the social work education must be imparted at the university level. Why did he think so? He thought so because he felt that students could be offered a broad range of courses dealing with social issues. So per the original sentence he was only convinced of a single point. The part starting with "so that" presents the reasoning for his conviction.

Now Choice B is grammatically as well as logically incorrect.

1. It is logically incorrect because the forced parallelism in the sentence now conveys that Abbot was convinced of two things. The second entity in the list is no more the reasoning for his convictions.
2. The grammatical flaw in the sentence is usage of "should be". The usage of this verb now suggests that inclusion of the social work education in university is his command or demand that must be met. The inclusion appears to be his diktat rather than his belief.

Choice D indeed is the correct answer as it clearly conveys the intended meaning. The phrase "belonging in" is absolutely correct. It is the university that the said education belong. Commonly, we use the phrase "belong to" which means someone owns something. Here we cannot use "belong to" because the university does not own the social work education. It "belongs in" the university as in its right place is in the university.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
Shraddha


Hi egmat Shraddha,
You wrote following in your argument:

"..... So per the original sentence he was only convinced of a single point. The part starting with "so that" presents the reasoning for his conviction....."

But then I see people discussing this question here and also discussing at ManhattanPrep official blog are saying that "convinced of" is idiomatically wrong.
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t6968.html

So I am really confused here. Can you please help. If "convinced of" is wrong then how come you didn't point it out. Better yet - why did you use it in your description if everyone is saying that it is idiomatically incorrect?

I will appreciate your help.
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is the use of word "BELONGED" correct? I am still stuck on the same and not able to move ahead. I chose B for the same reason.
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is the use of word "BELONGED" correct? I am still stuck on the same and not able to move ahead. I chose B for the same reason.


We are reporting what Edith Abbott said in the past- that is why "BELONGED" is correct.
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