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Research has shown that when speaking, individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
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Research has shown that when speaking, individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and



A to me.
B-but nonetheless, C-Wordy, D-Same as b, E-wordy.
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(D) and (E) definitely not ||

Anyone care to explain why (B) and (C) is wrong? :)

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New post 01 Mar 2011, 07:53
If you take a closer look the SC is checking for "that parallelism" - you dont have a choice but A or D.

If it is not D then A.

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(D) and (E) definitely not ||

Anyone care to explain why (B) and (C) is wrong? :)

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IMO correct option A
The question tests parallelism and idiom.
Correct idiom => as X as Y
Not considering the marked portion in the main sentence maxes X = individuals make hand motions & Y = sighted people do
In A this is parallel.

Research has shown that when speaking, individuals [strike]who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless[/strike] make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that

B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and - As X that Y is wrong

C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and - that is not parallel & is unnecessary

D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that - As X that Y is wrong

E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and - As X that Y is wrong

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can someone explain "that" in A is referring to what?

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can someone explain "that" in A is referring to what?


Research has shown that (when speaking, individuals ... people do,) and (that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.)

Reserch has shown that X and that Y --> his Keeps the parallelism

So B, C, E areout due to lack of parallelism.

between A and E , the only difference is A starts with "Have thus" while E starts with "thus they have..."

introduction of Subject "they" in E is unnecessary

it leave with the answer A.

whats is the OA????
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OA is A...This is a GMATPrep question
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+ 1 A.
correct II-ism between That -clauses.
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Crazy problem

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
looks fine
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
research has shown that blah blah and they will gesture - break in parallel (need a 'that' before 'they')

C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
research has shown that blah blah and they will gesture - break in parallel (need a 'that' before 'they')

D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
individuals who have been blah blah and thus they have - break in parallel (remove they)

E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
individuals who have been blah blah and thus they have - break in parallel (remove they)

If you get this problem in 60 secs, pretty sure you don't need to worry about parallelism
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Crazy problem

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
looks fine
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
research has shown that blah blah and they will gesture - break in parallel (need a 'that' before 'they')

C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
research has shown that blah blah and they will gesture - break in parallel (need a 'that' before 'they')

D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
individuals who have been blah blah and thus they have - break in parallel (remove they)

E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
individuals who have been blah blah and thus they have - break in parallel (remove they)

If you get this problem in 60 secs, pretty sure you don't need to worry about parallelism


In options D and E,
just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do ---here AS should be used
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My take -

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
Keep. No problem. Lets look at other options.
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
but and nonetheless are redundant. There is no problem with 'in the same way that'. However, a 'that' at the end is missing, which makes the meaning unclear.
C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
wrong usage - 'gesture, that they nonetheless' (comma not required). Also a 'that' at the end is missing, which makes the meaning unclear.
D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
pronoun 'they' not required in 'thus they have never seen'. but and nonetheless are redundant.
E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
pronoun 'they' not required in 'thus they have never seen'. Also a 'that' at the end is missing, which makes the meaning unclear.

What is the source of this question?

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Research has shown that when speaking, individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and



Great problem.
... individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus is parallel structure.
answer choice c plays with the meaning by breaking the connection
Eliminate c , d and e.
B has redundancy - but nontheless both signal contrast.
Between A and C, A is clear by its meaning

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For me, it 's A.

There are some problems here
Parallelism: “and that they will” - “and they will”; “show that X, that Y, and Z” - “show that X, and that Y”
Modifier: Comparison: “just as frequently” -“just as frequently as”
Idiom: “in the same way as” - “in the same way that”
Sentence structure: “but nonetheless make” - “nonetheless make”

B: “but nonetheless”, we don't have Verb for "individuals", and "but" is in wrong place.

B, D: “in the same way that” is absolutely wrong.

B, D, E: “As frequently” needs "as" in the end. In other sentences, “as frequently” share “as” with “in the same way”.

C: “shown that …, that …, and they will”, we need one more “and that” to end this parallel list.

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Research has shown that when speaking, individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

A) have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that
B) have thus never seen anyone gesture but nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and
C) have thus never seen anyone gesture, that they nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and
D) thus they have never seen anyone gesture, but nonetheless they make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and that
E) thus they have never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way that sighted people do, and


Research has shown that L (when speaking...people do), and that M (they will gesture...).

Within "that L" there's another structure. "individuals who N (have been blind) and P (have never seen) nonetheless make hand motions Q (just as frequently) and R (in the same... people do)"

So you've got three pairs of "and" phrases or clauses, in which each part of the pair should be parallel.

So, L and M = pair #1, N and P = pair #2, Q and R = pair #3.

They're all correctly parallel in choice A.
B breaks parallelism for L and M (no "that" before M), as well as breaking some other rules (Correct idiom is as X as)
C breaks parallelism for L and M (no "that" before M), as well as breaking some other rules
D breaks parallelism for N and P (individuals who N and "they" P - I shouldn't repeat the subject here b/c "individuals" is outside of the parallel part of the sentence) ;(Correct idiom is as X as)
E same as D and B/C and in E --(Correct idiom is as X as)

Other rules are broken as well in the wrong ones, but you can use this one rule, parallelism, to deal with all 4 wrong choices.
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