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Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

(A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig

(B) will snap easily, like a twig does

(C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig

(D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig

(E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig
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Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B) will snap easily, like a twig does
C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig

I picked C ..
as though (present tense) + future tense

But answer is given as E ... can some one explain?


Good question and all I can think of is this:

The statement "as if it were a twig" is hypothetical not factual. Because it's hypothetical, and as you say, as though is in the present tense, the verb should be in the past tense, hence the use of were. If the statement is factual, then you are correct in saying a future tense would be needed.

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Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B) will snap easily, like a twig does
C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig

I picked C ..
as though (present tense) + future tense

But answer is given as E ... can some one explain?


Good question and all I can think of is this:

The statement "as if it were a twig" is hypothetical not factual. Because it's hypothetical, and as you say, as though is in the present tense, the verb should be in the past tense, hence the use of were. If the statement is factual, then you are correct in saying a future tense would be needed.


hey thanks for the response. But the rule is "if it were twig, it WOULD .." right?not it WILL?

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lagomez wrote:
ugimba wrote:
Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B) will snap easily, like a twig does
C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig

I picked C ..
as though (present tense) + future tense

But answer is given as E ... can some one explain?


Good question and all I can think of is this:

The statement "as if it were a twig" is hypothetical not factual. Because it's hypothetical, and as you say, as though is in the present tense, the verb should be in the past tense, hence the use of were. If the statement is factual, then you are correct in saying a future tense would be needed.


hey thanks for the response. But the rule is "if it were twig, it WOULD .." right?not it WILL?


My ans is E
The sentence after "as if" or "as though" falls into the hypothetical sentence. Therefore, the verb after the "as though" must be "were".
IMHO, It is not necessarily categorized into the if..,... form. I do not treat the V tense in the if.. form the same as the as if/as though form.
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E
Hypothetical subjunctive... for using 'were'.
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ugimba wrote:
Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B) will snap easily, like a twig does
C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig

I picked C ..
as though (present tense) + future tense

But answer is given as E ... can some one explain?


You don't have here a construction present tense + future tense. The sentence compares hypothetically the pipe and the twig.

Consider the following analogy


present + will

if you train everyday, then you will run faster

if you train everyday, then you will run as if you were an athlete.


Both examples contain the construction present + will and the second just adds a hypothetical comparison.

In the same way you can eliminate as though ... from the sentence

Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily

The important thing to notice is that as though is just comparing hypothetically the pipe and the twig.
Is this clear for you?

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We need to use the subjunctive form. Hence use of 'were'.

We use subjunctives mainly when talking about events that are not certain to happen but hope will happen.
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Here the sentence is a Hypothetical Subjunctive and for Hypothetical Subjunctives the 'to-be' form of the verb should always be in Plural.

Eg: If I were (not was) a rich man, I would buy a yacht.

On a side Note, a Hypothetical Subjunctive is a sentence in which a Hypothetical statement is made ... which may or may not be true.
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Great work to all here. That said, I'd encourage you all to also be comfortable with the second split in this sentence (like vs. as), because that comes up just as often as the was/were issue.

Like: Can only be used to compare nouns
As: Can be used to compare clauses

"My uncle looks like my aunt." --> Correct: We're saying the two look similar to each other.
"My uncle looks at me as my aunt does."--> Correct: We're saying they both look at me in a similar way.

"My uncle looks as my aunt." --> Incorrect because "my aunt" is not a clause and needs "like."
"My uncle looks at me like my aunt does." --> Incorrect because we're comparing two clauses (how my uncle looks at me and how my aunt looks at me) and thus we need to use "as" instead of "like."

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We need to use the subjunctive form. Hence use of 'were'.

We use subjunctives mainly when talking about events that are not certain to happen but hope will happen.


Yup. It is a hypothetical case - since the a steel pipe can never be a twig.
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E.

Use were in a hypothetical subjunctive.
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Great work to all here. That said, I'd encourage you all to also be comfortable with the second split in this sentence (like vs. as), because that comes up just as often as the was/were issue.

Like: Can only be used to compare nouns
As: Can be used to compare clauses

"My uncle looks like my aunt." --> Correct: We're saying the two look similar to each other.
"My uncle looks at me as my aunt does."--> Correct: We're saying they both look at me in a similar way.

"My uncle looks as my aunt." --> Incorrect because "my aunt" is not a clause and needs "like."
"My uncle looks at me like my aunt does." --> Incorrect because we're comparing two clauses (how my uncle looks at me and how my aunt looks at me) and thus we need to use "as" instead of "like."

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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of
Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general
education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of
the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in

I don't understand why C is wrong in terms of comparision, i don't know what is the difference in the C and D.
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BKimball wrote:
Great work to all here. That said, I'd encourage you all to also be comfortable with the second split in this sentence (like vs. as), because that comes up just as often as the was/were issue.

Like: Can only be used to compare nouns
As: Can be used to compare clauses

"My uncle looks like my aunt." --> Correct: We're saying the two look similar to each other.
"My uncle looks at me as my aunt does."--> Correct: We're saying they both look at me in a similar way.

"My uncle looks as my aunt." --> Incorrect because "my aunt" is not a clause and needs "like."
"My uncle looks at me like my aunt does." --> Incorrect because we're comparing two clauses (how my uncle looks at me and how my aunt looks at me) and thus we need to use "as" instead of "like."

Just a little GMAT tip...

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Thanks very much for your explanation.... can you help me in identifying flow in below mentioned problem

According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of
Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general
education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of
the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in

I don't understand why C is wrong in terms of comparision, i don't know what is the difference in the C and D.

I guess with C, "those" refers to nearly 8 mil people, which will slightly change the meaning of the sentence. That's why D is a better choice

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hirendhanak wrote: I don't understand why C is wrong in terms of comparison, i don't know what is the difference in the C and D.

I just wish to point out a small custom here. The words - equal or equitant - are special words. (BTW, I don’t think there is any difference between them). These words can not be used to equate just one dimension of some factor. When we say that Franklin Roosevelt was one or the greatest presidents of America, equal to only Abraham Lincoln, we mean that Roosevelt matched Abe in all respects of his personality, not just in one or two attributes. Equality denotes an all-round and comprehensive idea of identically. This is why equal or equivalent isn’t the right choice here, since the comparison is just on one aspect of numbers. - As many as - will be a better choice.

D also wouldn’t be correct, since the expression - the enrollment of - isn’t idiomatic and elegant

E is the solution as far as I see.
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Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B will snap easily, like a twig does
C will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E will snap easily, as though it were a twig
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I think E should be the right one, bacause we have here past subjunctive.

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Agree - "were" / subjunctive mood in E.

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In the interest of finding all the errors here, notice also:

B uses "like" where it should use "as." (We are comparing two clauses, so we need to use "as.")

From here, you are all correct: We need to use "as though it were."
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Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.

A) will snap easily, as though it was a twig
B) will snap easily, like a twig does
C) will snap easily, as though it is a twig
D) might snap easily, as though it was a twig
E) will snap easily, as though it were a twig


Answer: E
hypothetical, so 'it were'
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IMO E because it just like saying "If i were a millionaire..... " were is necessary to state.
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