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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
((B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are

tooth and bone are not normally found in the organ. that's not the point. Point is Teratomas are composed of tissues that
are not normally found in the organ.

(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is :
their composition is not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears. This is not the intended meaning.

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such tooth and bone, tissues

I think "because" is wrong here. because that presents a causal effect relationship. Sentence want to explain how teratomas are unusal form of cancer. Key is here to understand difference between "How" and "Why". Here the meaning of sentence emphasise to "how" part.

E option is not correctly written.it should be : in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


I have one doubt tissues such as tooth and bones : tooth and bones are not example of tissues. should n't right word here is "Like"



Tissue is a cellular organizational level intermediate between cells and a complete organ. There are four types of tissues one of which is connective tissue. Blood, bone, tendon, ligament, adipose and areolar tissues are examples of connective tissues.

For more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)


yes that is what i was saying ..like should be there in place of Such as and thus correct choice should be C


Note that bone (and hence tooth too) are a type of tissues.

For more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)
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Hi Expert,

In one of your post, you mentioned that "in that" is specific to certain verbs such as differ.

An eagle differs from crow in that ............ --correct

Please help ! In what all cases, we can use "in that" phrase. Thanks
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Ooh, interesting question, AR15J. I can't think of many GMAT SC questions where you really have to worry about "in that" -- it's not usually a deciding factor of any sort. But for your peace of mind (which is valuable on this freaking test!!), here we go.

I can think of two uses of "in that." The first one is pretty harmless:

    The reintroduction of caribou into northern Minnesota will fail if the wolf population in that region is too high.

This usage is clearly not a problem: "that region" refers to northern Minnesota (which, incidentally, is extremely beautiful -- one of the more underrated parts of the U.S.), and we're just saying that something happens "in that" region. No problem here. (See https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-wildlife-e ... 10565.html for the original example.)

This probably isn't the usage that you're worried about, though.

So here's answer choice (D) from the original question:
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.


In this usage, "in that" is a (unnecessary jargon alert!) conjunction. Basically, it means "inasmuch as" or insofar as." And I don't think that makes sense in this case.

In other uses, "in that" isn't necessarily wrong, but the GMAT calls it "stilted and overly formal" in OG 12:

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In that is a conjunction that means inasmuch as; because in that has largely gone out of use, it is considered stilted and overly formal. It also uses two words when one would do.


That's from OG 12, pg. 714. And here's a discussion of that same question here on GMAT Club: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-olympic- ... 85874.html

Bottom line: don't lose much sleep over "in that", but if you really need to grapple with it, it means "inasmuch as" -- and the GMAT seems to think that it's "stilted and overly formal." So I doubt that you'll ever see it in a correct answer.
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Ooh, interesting question, AR15J. I can't think of many GMAT SC questions where you really have to worry about "in that" -- it's not usually a deciding factor of any sort. But for your peace of mind (which is valuable on this freaking test!!), here we go.

I can think of two uses of "in that." The first one is pretty harmless:

    The reintroduction of caribou into northern Minnesota will fail if the wolf population in that region is too high.

This usage is clearly not a problem: "that region" refers to northern Minnesota (which, incidentally, is extremely beautiful -- one of the more underrated parts of the U.S.), and we're just saying that something happens "in that" region. No problem here. (See https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-wildlife-e ... 10565.html for the original example.)

This probably isn't the usage that you're worried about, though.

So here's answer choice (D) from the original question:
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.


In this usage, "in that" is a (unnecessary jargon alert!) conjunction. Basically, it means "inasmuch as" or insofar as." And I don't think that makes sense in this case.

In other uses, "in that" isn't necessarily wrong, but the GMAT calls it "stilted and overly formal" in OG 12:

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In that is a conjunction that means inasmuch as; because in that has largely gone out of use, it is considered stilted and overly formal. It also uses two words when one would do.


That's from OG 12, pg. 714. And here's a discussion of that same question here on GMAT Club: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-olympic- ... 85874.html

Bottom line: don't lose much sleep over "in that", but if you really need to grapple with it, it means "inasmuch as" -- and the GMAT seems to think that it's "stilted and overly formal." So I doubt that you'll ever see it in a correct answer.


Dear Charles,

I would like to highlight that correct choice E misses 'as' in 'such as tooth and bone'. I returned to original question.
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First vertical split here is - because vs in that.

Because--> presents causal relationship
In that --> Answers HOW a specific phenomenon is different that the one mentioned before "in that".

As per the meaning of this sentence, it sounds more logical that sentence is trying to convey "HOW" Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer rather than "WHY" Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer. Thus use of "in that" is more sensible. D and E survives.

In D, phrase "tissues such as tooth and bone" is modifying "composition". This is incorrect.
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still stuck up between A and E
can any expert explain why is e correct even when it doesn't contain AS after SUCH

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According to the following post (04 Aug 2010, 09:32), the original post contained a typo, and choice E should have been "... such as tooth and bone...", not "... such tooth and bone..."

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Ramana is correct. The original question has typos. Hope this clears the "such as" :-D

Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not
normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.
(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues

OA : E

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The Official Guide for GMAT Review 10th Edition, 2003

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Question No.: SC 208
Page: 686

Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


1. Tooth and Bones are examples of tissue. So usage of such as is correct and usage of like is wrong. This eliminates options B and C.
2. 'in that' is the short form of in a way that. Though its usage is almost incorrect on GMAT but on the basis of that only we cannot eliminate the answer choices. Its a non-deterministic error.
3. As per the intended meaning, tissues are not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears. Also, logically tooth and bone not normally found in the organ does not make sense. This eliminates options A, B and D. In option D, it incorrectly says that the composition of Teratomas is not normally found in the organ. This is again non sensical.
4. If we remove the non essential modifier from option C, because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues, then option C becomes,
because they are composed of tissues tissues .. this structure repeats tissues twice. So, incorrect. This eliminates option C.

So, we are only left with the correct choice E. POE can be very useful especially for a non-native like me. :)
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The Official Guide for GMAT Review 10th Edition, 2003

Practice Question
Question No.: SC 208
Page: 686

Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


Hi mikemcgarry,

Can you please help me understand the difference A and E. Also is "in that" preferable as a part of the correct answer choice on the GMAT ? The in one of its question states that the use of in that is considered stilted and overly formal.
Need your inputs on this.

Thanks :-)
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smashingpumpkins wrote:
The Official Guide for GMAT Review 10th Edition, 2003

Practice Question
Question No.: SC 208
Page: 686

Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


1. Tooth and Bones are examples of tissue. So usage of such as is correct and usage of like is wrong. This eliminates options B and C.
2. 'in that' is the short form of in a way that. Though its usage is almost incorrect on GMAT but on the basis of that only we cannot eliminate the answer choices. Its a non-deterministic error.
3. As per the intended meaning, tissues are not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears. Also, logically tooth and bone not normally found in the organ does not make sense. This eliminates options A, B and D. In option D, it incorrectly says that the composition of Teratomas is not normally found in the organ. This is again non sensical.
4. If we remove the non essential modifier from option C, because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues, then option C becomes,
because they are composed of tissues tissues .. this structure repeats tissues twice. So, incorrect. This eliminates option C.

So, we are only left with the correct choice E. POE can be very useful especially for a non-native like me. :)



this analysis makes sense,,,,,spent almost 20 mins reading the entire discussion and u made sense to me,,,thanks,,,
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Hi mikemcgarry,

Can you please help me understand the difference A and E. Also is "in that" preferable as a part of the correct answer choice on the GMAT ? The in one of its question states that the use of in that is considered stilted and overly formal.
Need your inputs on this.

Thanks :-)

Dear Poorvasha,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

It's true that the "in that" structure is very sophisticated and formal, but all the language on the GMAT SC is sophisticated and formal, so this structure usually fits on the GMAT SC.

In this sentence, either "because" or "in that" would be correct. The problem in (A) is that the noun-modifying phrase that follows the underlined section is awkward--this phrase is meant to modify "tissue," not "tooth and bone," which it touches. The question of the phrase's target noun is ambiguous and muddy in (A), whereas (E) concisely cleans up this ambiguity.

Does all this make sense?
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