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The Arthritis Research Institute of America advises women of color that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women.

A. that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women
B. that they are twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
C. that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as White women
D. of being twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
E. of having twice the likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee as White women

A is wrong as it should say "twice the likelihood of getting...
B is correct I believe. It is correct to compare women to women, it is comparing the likelihood of one group to the likelihood of another.
C- twice as much as is not idiomatically correct. You could say "twice as high as" but not twice as much as. Much is incorrect here.
D and E incorrect preposition of

I must choose B.

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likelihood of "-ing form of verb" - Is this a standard usage?

What is OA for this?
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One more for B. Of being does not sound correct in D...can't explain the rule though
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B!

Advises is a "subjunctive", hence need to be followed by "that". As such, D and E are out.

A: "twice the likelihood to get" akward. If "twice the likelihood of getting" may be a better option

C: "twice as much" is again akward.
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B.

likelihood shouldn't be used in the middle of the sentence
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A for me.


B is wrong because
first: advise that.. should use subjunctive mode.
2nd: "they are twice as likely as White women " is not good, there should be an "are" after the white women.
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Yes. time for OA. you don't want to wait until Christmas is over, do you. :P
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A for me.


B is wrong because
first: advise that.. should use subjunctive mode.
2nd: "they are twice as likely as White women " is not good, there should be an "are" after the white women.

I find B the best.

tennis_ball, don't you think 'are' is implicit here. Eg, She is as tall as he, which is basically She is as tall as he (is).
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I think 'A' is best answer because the statement should compare the likelyhood of getting osteroarthritis not women of color.
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A for me.


B is wrong because
first: advise that.. should use subjunctive mode.
2nd: "they are twice as likely as White women " is not good, there should be an "are" after the white women.
I find B the best.

tennis_ball, don't you think 'are' is implicit here. Eg, She is as tall as he, which is basically She is as tall as he (is).


it should be subjunctive mood, so B can't be right.
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I looked up "twice" in the dictionary, seems both the usage of A and of B are right, how can I distinguish these two choices?
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I got asked to take this one on by PM, so here I am!

The Arthritis Research Institute of America advises women of color that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women.

A. that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women
PROBLEM: You can't "have a likelihood."

B. that they are twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
ANSWER: No problems here "twice as likely as White women" is clear, and you are likely TO get something.

C. that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as White women
PROBLEM: A likelihood can't be twice as much. It doesn't make any sense. A likelihood can be high or low, but not twice as much. Also, we're comparing the likelihood too "white women" here, which is the wrong comparison.

D. of being twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
PROBLEM: You advise someone "that" something is true, not "of". Also, generally the word "being" is always wrong.

E. of having twice the likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee as White women
PROBLEM: You advise someone "that" something is true, not "of". Also, you can't have "twice the likelihood", and there's a weird comparison here, as if women of color could somehow get "white women" in the same way they would get "osteoarthritis."

Hope that helps!

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Thank you Tommy!

I'm much more clear about the usage of "likelihood"!
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Brilliant as usual... Quick question.. Is twice as much alright? Or should it be twice as high?

I assume your reasoning below equally applies to "probability" ..

I did not know you cannot "have a likelihood".. Also in option C below if it ended in..twice as much as the likelihood that white women would get it? Does that make it any better in terms of comparison?

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Hey All,

I got asked to take this one on by PM, so here I am!

The Arthritis Research Institute of America advises women of color that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women.

A. that they have twice the likelihood to get osteoarthritis of the knee as do White women
PROBLEM: You can't "have a likelihood."

B. that they are twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
ANSWER: No problems here "twice as likely as White women" is clear, and you are likely TO get something.

C. that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as White women
PROBLEM: A likelihood can't be twice as much. It doesn't make any sense. A likelihood can be high or low, but not twice as much. Also, we're comparing the likelihood too "white women" here, which is the wrong comparison.

D. of being twice as likely as White women to get osteoarthritis of the knee
PROBLEM: You advise someone "that" something is true, not "of". Also, generally the word "being" is always wrong.

E. of having twice the likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee as White women
PROBLEM: You advise someone "that" something is true, not "of". Also, you can't have "twice the likelihood", and there's a weird comparison here, as if women of color could somehow get "white women" in the same way they would get "osteoarthritis."

Hope that helps!

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Hey Mainhoon,

One by one:

1. Is twice as much alright? Or should it be twice as high? : Well you can't say "much" in this sentence, if that's your question. But "high" kinda sucks, too (though it may be technically legal). The BEST way is not to use "likelihood" this way, and go with "twice as likely." In general, the word choice should be dependent on context, though the truth is I couldn't think of a context where "high" was a good choice, though I'm open to the possibility:

"I have twice as much money as Dave." --> see, no problem

"My skyscraper is twice as high as Dave's." --> this should say "twice as tall"

"My taxes are twice as high as Dave's." --> Possible, but awkward.

2. I assume your reasoning below equally applies to "probability" ..

Indeed, I'm 99% all my explanations here apply to probability as well.

3. I did not know you cannot "have a likelihood": Yep. There can "be a (significant) likelihood" of something, but you can't HAVE it.

4. Also in option C below if it ended in:

that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as the likelihood that white women would get it? Does that make it any better in terms of comparison?

Nope. Your likelihood can't be twice as much. Also "their likelihood" doesn't make sense. You can't HAVE a likelihood, so the idea of using a possessive pronoun with "likelihood" makes very little sense.

Hope that helps!

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Great explanations Tommy, I could almost hear you there.. Also nite that you left 1% open in your answer for "probability" :)

But what I wrong with "twice as high"? Twice as tall sounds better, but high also identifies a building characteristic...

I have another question in another thread on morelikelythan when you get a chance...
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Hey Mainhoon,

One by one:

1. Is twice as much alright? Or should it be twice as high? : Well you can't say "much" in this sentence, if that's your question. But "high" kinda sucks, too (though it may be technically legal). The BEST way is not to use "likelihood" this way, and go with "twice as likely." In general, the word choice should be dependent on context, though the truth is I couldn't think of a context where "high" was a good choice, though I'm open to the possibility:

"I have twice as much money as Dave." --> see, no problem

"My skyscraper is twice as high as Dave's." --> this should say "twice as tall"

"My taxes are twice as high as Dave's." --> Possible, but awkward.

2. I assume your reasoning below equally applies to "probability" ..

Indeed, I'm 99% all my explanations here apply to probability as well.

3. I did not know you cannot "have a likelihood": Yep. There can "be a (significant) likelihood" of something, but you can't HAVE it.

4. Also in option C below if it ended in:

that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as the likelihood that white women would get it? Does that make it any better in terms of comparison?

Nope. Your likelihood can't be twice as much. Also "their likelihood" doesn't make sense. You can't HAVE a likelihood, so the idea of using a possessive pronoun with "likelihood" makes very little sense.

Hope that helps!

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I find C to be best answer...though most find B, I am not sure.
Can someone explain better? Also OA plz...
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4. Also in option C below if it ended in:

that their likelihood of getting osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as the likelihood that white women would get it? Does that make it any better in terms of comparison?

Nope. Your likelihood can't be twice as much. Also "their likelihood" doesn't make sense. You can't HAVE a likelihood, so the idea of using a possessive pronoun with "likelihood" makes very little sense.



I guess, if you really wanna use "likelihood" here, the sentence may be:
...advise women of color that the likelihood that they get osteoarthritis of the knee is twice as much as the likelihood that White women do.

The above rendering is obviously wordy thus worse than the "twice as likey as" form.
though I'm not sure if "likelihood ....twice as much as" is OK here.
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