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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

A. 85
B. 86
C. 88
D. 90
E. 92

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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

A. 85
B. 86
C. 88
D. 90
E. 92


When the student weighs 80 pounds the average weight is x - 1 pounds;
When the student weighs 110 pounds the average weight is x + 4 pounds.

So, the increase in total weight of 110 - 80 = 30 pounds corresponds to the increase in average weight of (x + 4) - (x - 1) =5 pounds, which means that there are 30/5 = 6 students (including the new one). So, initially there were 5 student.

Total weight = 5x + 80 = 6(x-1) --> x = 86 pounds.

Answer: B.

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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

85

86

88

90

92


Let the number of students by y. We know that their weight is fixed. Thus, initially, when a new student with weight 80 pounds joins,we have :

\(80+y*1 = x-1.\)

Again, when the same student weighs 110 pounds, we have :

\(110-4*y = x+4.\)

Thus, multiplying the first equation by 4 and adding both we get,

320+110 =\(5*x\)

or x = \(\frac{430}{5}\)= 86.

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emmak wrote:
The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

85

86

88

90

92


Let the number of students by y. We know that their weight is fixed. Thus, initially, when a new student with weight 80 pounds joins,we have :

\(80+y*1 = x-1.\)

Again, when the same student weighs 110 pounds, we have :

\(110-4*y = x+4.\)

Thus, multiplying the first equation by 4 and adding both we get,

320+110 =\(5*x\)

or x = \(\frac{430}{5}\)= 86.

B.



could anyone please elaborate on how the above two equations were derived ?

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Let the number of students by y. We know that their weight is fixed. Thus, initially, when a new student with weight 80 pounds joins,we have :

\(80+y*1 = x-1.\)

Again, when the same student weighs 110 pounds, we have :

\(110-4*y = x+4.\)

Thus, multiplying the first equation by 4 and adding both we get,

320+110 =\(5*x\)

or x = \(\frac{430}{5}\)= 86.

B.



could anyone please elaborate on how the above two equations were derived ?

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When a new student joins and this results in a drop by 1 in the average, it is as if each student present in the class gave 1 pound to him. Also, after getting 1 pound from each student, the new weight the student has must equal the new average. Thus, 80+y*1 = x-1

Similarly, when his weight becomes 110 pounds, to increase the average , he must have contributed 4 pounds to each student .Just as above, this new weight must equal the average. Thus, 110-4*y = x+4
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vinaymimani wrote:
emmak wrote:
The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

85

86

88

90

92


Let the number of students by y. We know that their weight is fixed. Thus, initially, when a new student with weight 80 pounds joins,we have :

\(80+y*1 = x-1.\)

Again, when the same student weighs 110 pounds, we have :

\(110-4*y = x+4.\)

Thus, multiplying the first equation by 4 and adding both we get,

320+110 =\(5*x\)

or x = \(\frac{430}{5}\)= 86.

B.



could anyone please elaborate on how the above two equations were derived ?

thanks ~



Hi,


Ao - old average
An - new average
X - weight of the new student
n - number of students including the new guy
c - any constant (in our case -1)

This is the equation for calculating the average in that case

\(\frac{X + (n-1)*Ao}{n}=Ao + c\)

\(X=(1-n)*Ao+n*(Ao+c)\)

\(X=Ao+n*c\)

\(X=Ao+c-c+n*c\)

(Ao+c = An)

\(X=An+c*(n-1)\)



So the weight of the new student equals the new average plus n-1(each of the old students) times c.


Btw. it is not necessary to use above trick to get the result for that problem. If anyone is interested I can post an alternative way.
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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

A. 85
B. 86
C. 88
D. 90
E. 92


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(x+4)-(x-1)=5
110-80=30

30/5=6

80+6=86
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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

A. 85
B. 86
C. 88
D. 90
E. 92


lets assume Total weight = T ; Total number of people = N and average = X (as given in question )

as per the average formula .. X=T / N

Condition 1 : ( X-1 ) = ( T+80 )/ ( N+1) ... => X-N=81

Condition 2 : (X+4) = ( T+110) /(N+1)... => X+ 4N = 106

Solving we get X=86 ..!
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The average weight of a class is x pounds. When a new student weighing 80 pounds joins the class, the average decreases by 1 pound. In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds and the average weight of the class becomes x + 4 pounds. None of the other students’ weights changed. What is the value of x?

A. 85
B. 86
C. 88
D. 90
E. 92


When the student weighs 80 pounds the average weight is x - 1 pounds;
When the student weighs 110 pounds the average weight is x + 4 pounds.

So, the increase in total weight of 110 - 80 = 30 pounds corresponds to the increase in average weight of (x + 4) - (x - 1) =5 pounds, which means that there are 30/5 = 6 students (including the new one). So, initially there were 5 student.

Total weight = 5x + 80 = 6(x-1) --> x = 86 pounds.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.


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Hi Experts / chetan2u,

Please have a look on my approach. I have created 3 equations-

1) (Sum) / N = X

2) When a new student of weight 80 is added the equations become
(Sum +80)/ (N+1) = X-1

3) When the students gain weight by 110. In this case the students have put on more weight so we just need to add 110 in the sum.
(Sum + 110) / N = X+4

After solving these equations I am getting X=102 which is not correct.
I know, I am missing something.

Can you please assist.

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Hi Experts / chetan2u,

Please have a look on my approach. I have created 3 equations-

1) (Sum) / N = X

2) When a new student of weight 80 is added the equations become
(Sum +80)/ (N+1) = X-1

3) When the students gain weight by 110. In this case the students have put on more weight so we just need to add 110 in the sum.
(Sum + 110) / N= X+4

After solving these equations I am getting X=102 which is not correct.
I know, I am missing something.

Can you please assist.

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hi,
i find the approach to be OK BUT the highlighted portion has to be N+1 and not N..
Try putting that and check your answer
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Hi chetan2u,

I am getting the corect answer now. But I am not able to understand, the question says In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds.
So, the students have gain weight, then why do we need to denominator as (N+1).

Can you please assist..?

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Hi chetan2u,

I am getting the corect answer now. But I am not able to understand, the question says In a few months the student’s weight increases to 110 pounds.
So, the students have gain weight, then why do we need to denominator as (N+1).

Can you please assist..?

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Prakhar ,
if you read the Q,it says the person who joined at 80 kgs has increased to 110 kgs..
and Including him TOTAL is N+1..
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Hi chetan2u,

Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt.
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let w=total original weight of students
n=number of students
x=w/n=average weight of original students
as w increases from 80 to 110, or 30 pounds, x increases from x-1 to x+4, or 5 pounds
w/x=30/5=n=6 students
equation 1: 6(x-1)=w+80
equation 2: 5x=w
subtracting e2 from e1,
x=86 pounds
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Here is my solution to this a=question =>


Let the number of students be N
Average = x

Using

\(Mean = \frac{Sum}{#}\)


Sum=Nx

Now As per Question

Nx+80/N+1 = x-1
And
Nx+110/N+1


Solving the Equations we get x=86

Hence B

Method 2=>

110=x+4(N+1)
Hence 110=x+4N+4

Also
80=x-1(N+1)
81=x-N

Solving we again get =>x=86


Hence B

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4 1
80---------------------x-----------110

x = 80 + [(110-80)*1/5)] = 80+6 = 86

the new average is a weighted average of the 2 weights of the student , weights are the effect his weight had on the original average x .

when his weight was 80 he had an effect of 1 and when his weight was 110 he had an effect of 4.
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