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The integers n and t are positive and n > t > 1. How many different subgroups of t items can be formed from a group of n different items?

(1) The number of different subgroups of n − t different items that can be formed from a group of n different items is 680.

(2) nt = 51

good kaplan question. just wanted to share with you.


One of the easier ways to solve DS questions is always to look at each answer choice at glance. Just to find whether there is any idea comes to mind by looking one or another.
For example in this problem i have looked at the 1) statement and had a doubt, then i did not spend much time to solve it and moved to the 2).

2) statement tells us that these integers must be n=17 and t=3, considering the conditions of the question there are no other choices. So we can solve this problem. Although we do not need to it i will solve it: we are looking for how many groups of 3 integers we can form out of 17 (considering that 1 would not make any difference i am saying 17).
(17*16*15)/3*2=680

By looking at this answer choice we can state that it is the same as the answer which is given in the statement (1). You can try couple of different values to get the combination of 680, but i am more than sure that you will not be able to get such combination without using 17 and 3.
So i am concluding that the answer is D.
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The integers n and t are positive and n > t > 1. How many different subgroups of t items can be formed from a group of n different items?

The question basically asks about the value of \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}\).

(1) The number of different subgroups of n − t different items that can be formed from a group of n different items is 680 --> \(C^{n-t}_n=\frac{n!}{(n-(n-t))!*(n-t)!}=\frac{n!}{t!*(n-t)!}=680\), directly gives us the asnwer. Sufficient.

(2) nt = 51 --> 51=17*3=51*1, since n > t > 1 then t=3 and n=17 --> \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}=\frac{17!}{14!*3!}=680\). Sufficient.

Answer; D.

Hi Bunnuel

Can we consider this as a ratio problem where we are asked to find the ratio of n to t. Even by this logic both the statements are enough!!
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The integers n and t are positive and n > t > 1. How many different subgroups of t items can be formed from a group of n different items?

The question basically asks about the value of \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}\).

(1) The number of different subgroups of n − t different items that can be formed from a group of n different items is 680 --> \(C^{n-t}_n=\frac{n!}{(n-(n-t))!*(n-t)!}=\frac{n!}{t!*(n-t)!}=680\), directly gives us the asnwer. Sufficient.

(2) nt = 51 --> 51=17*3=51*1, since n > t > 1 then t=3 and n=17 --> \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}=\frac{17!}{14!*3!}=680\). Sufficient.

Answer; D.

Hi Bunnuel

Can we consider this as a ratio problem where we are asked to find the ratio of n to t. Even by this logic both the statements are enough!!

Just knowing the ratio won't be enough. For example, knowing that n/t = 3/2, won't be enough to answer the question.
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Hi Bunuel,

How did you simplify the (n-(n-t!)) * t!? I dont understand how you made it n-t! * t!

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The integers n and t are positive and n > t > 1. How many different subgroups of t items can be formed from a group of n different items?

The question basically asks about the value of \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}\).

(1) The number of different subgroups of n − t different items that can be formed from a group of n different items is 680 --> \(C^{n-t}_n=\frac{n!}{(n-(n-t))!*(n-t)!}=\frac{n!}{t!*(n-t)!}=680\), directly gives us the asnwer. Sufficient.

(2) nt = 51 --> 51=17*3=51*1, since n > t > 1 then t=3 and n=17 --> \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}=\frac{17!}{14!*3!}=680\). Sufficient.

Answer; D.
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Hi Bunuel,

How did you simplify the (n-(n-t!)) * t!? I dont understand how you made it n-t! * t!

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The integers n and t are positive and n > t > 1. How many different subgroups of t items can be formed from a group of n different items?

The question basically asks about the value of \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}\).

(1) The number of different subgroups of n − t different items that can be formed from a group of n different items is 680 --> \(C^{n-t}_n=\frac{n!}{(n-(n-t))!*(n-t)!}=\frac{n!}{t!*(n-t)!}=680\), directly gives us the asnwer. Sufficient.

(2) nt = 51 --> 51=17*3=51*1, since n > t > 1 then t=3 and n=17 --> \(C^t_n=\frac{n!}{(n-t)!*t!}=\frac{17!}{14!*3!}=680\). Sufficient.

Answer; D.


\((n-(n-t))!*(n-t)! = (n-n+t)!*(n-t)! = t!*(n-t)!\)
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For statement A:
We’re told that the number of subgroups of size n−t from n items is 680.
At first, this might seem unrelated because we want the number of subgroups of size t, not n−t. But here’s the key insight:
In combinations, choosing t items from n is the same as choosing the n−t items you’re not selecting. This is known as the symmetry rule of combinations:

So if we know there are 680 ways to choose n−t items from n, then there are also 680 ways to choose t items from n. That’s exactly what the question is asking.
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