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GMATNinja I totally agree with you on everything you said. But what if Someone has just a month left to improve on the RC.

What should be done in that case?
Sadly, there really aren't any magical shortcuts, though I'm sure that somebody out there would be happy to try to sell you one for a small fee. It's possible that a month is all you need to build strong habits on RC, especially if your fundamental reading skills are already really good. But if your reading skills are the biggest thing holding you back, then a month probably won't be enough.

So you might be fine! But if your reading skills aren't good enough to achieve your goals yet, be honest with yourself about it, and consider moving your test date if you aren't in a good position to achieve your score goals.

Good luck with your studies!
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Thank you for these Golden lines GMATNinja sir.
My queries:
Are the questions on an RC passage fixed? (Is the RC as a whole easy/hard depending on our performance on the previous questions?)
If YES, then how is the next question after that RC chose ? (Out of 4 questions if I get first question correct and the remaining three incorrect in RC.
Or first three incorrect and the last one correct, then how is the next question decided?)
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My queries:
Are the questions on an RC passage fixed? (Is the RC as a whole easy/hard depending on our performance on the previous questions?)
If YES, then how is the next question after that RC chose ? (Out of 4 questions if I get first question correct and the remaining three incorrect in RC.
Or first three incorrect and the last one correct, then how is the next question decided?)
Thank you for the kind words, jayesh99modi!

The question about RC is a good one, and I'm not 100% sure about the answer -- and as far as I know, GMAC has not publicly told us the answer to your question either, but maybe somebody can correct me on that.

There are two ways that the GMAT could, in theory, handle selection of your RC passages. The first is something called a "testlet": basically, the set of three or four RC questions is "fixed" for each passage in this scenario, so your answer to the first RC question does not impact the difficulty of the subsequent two or three questions on that passage. (And for whatever it's worth: in most cases, you'll see three RC passages with three questions each, and a fourth passage with four questions.) So if the GMAT uses "testlets" on RC, the difficulty of your entire passage would be based on your performance BEFORE you see that RC passage, because the RC questions for that passage would not "adapt" based on your performance within that passage.

The second possibility is that each RC passage actually has MORE than three or four possible questions. If this is the case, then each question after the first can be selected based on your performance WITHIN that passage.

Again, I don't have any inside information, but I suspect strongly that the second possibility is correct, since many of the RC passages in the OG (and GMATPrep Question Pack and Verbal Review) have more than three or four questions associated with them. Plus, some psychometricians (the statistician types who design standardized tests) aren't crazy about "testlets" (the first possibility, above) -- but that's a longer and much less interesting story. (Not-so-fun-fact: I spent two and a half years in a PhD program in psychometrics and education policy before I came to my senses and returned to teaching. So if anybody out there is having a hard time sleeping, I can tell you all about the three-parameter logistic model in computer adaptive testing, and you'll be knocked out instantly.)

In any case, there really isn't a big difference between those two ways of handling RC passages in terms of how they affect your score in the end. On an adaptive test, questions are selected based on your ENTIRE performance on the section up to that point -- so the difference between the two ways of handling RC would be very, very tiny in the grand scheme of things.

Sorry, that was probably a much longer answer than you bargained for! :dazed

The short short version: I think the test adapts after EVERY question -- even RC. But it doesn't really matter much, one way or another!
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Do you prefer starting up with RC in verbal preparation ? , I'll be just starting off with my verbal now . Do you also run a thread for Critical Reasoning for beginners ?? Could you recommend few resources to count on for CR ?
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Do you prefer starting up with RC in verbal preparation ? , I'll be just starting off with my verbal now . Do you also run a thread for Critical Reasoning for beginners ?? Could you recommend few resources to count on for CR ?
CR for beginners is here, and SC for beginners is here. Both have links to resources for both question types.

In general, I'd recommend starting with RC and CR, and when you're pretty close to achieving the results you want on those two question types, you can add in SC. It can take quite a while to build your skills in RC and CR -- depending, of course, on how good your skills are to begin with -- but SC is relatively finite, and there's a limited number of high-quality, official SC questions available. So it's generally best to start working on SC only after you've made some significant headway on everything else, unless you're already close to your goals on RC and CR.

Welcome to GMAT Club, loserunderachiever!
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GMATNinja Charles any chance you or anyone in your team had a chance to create fake tests on the new GMAT Prep software. It lets the user hide the menu up top but the downside is that once the user hides the menu he/she can not see the question numbers. Any way out to hide the clock but still be able to see the question number.

As always I appreciate your excellence and help to this global GMAT community.
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GMATNinja Charles any chance you or anyone in your team had a chance to create fake tests on the new GMAT Prep software. It lets the user hide the menu up top but the downside is that once the user hides the menu he/she can not see the question numbers. Any way out to hide the clock but still be able to see the question number.

As always I appreciate your excellence and help to this global GMAT community.
Ooh, great question -- I hadn't actually played with the new GMATPrep online system until I saw your post.

(And for anybody who isn't sure what Rocket7 means by "fake tests", the full story is here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/experts-topi ... 44293.html. At the moment, the post still refers to the old, non-online software, but we'll post an update at some point.)

As far as I know, there's no way to show the question number while hiding the timer. So here's what I'd recommend: go ahead and hide that menu at the top that shows the time and the question number. And then just keep track of the question number on your scratch paper. If you're using process of elimination on all of the verbal questions -- and everybody should do that! -- then you're probably writing "A B C D E" on your page, anyway. And as long as you stick the question number in front of the "A B C D E", you should be able to keep track adequately.

And if that doesn't work perfectly, it's not the end of the world to occasionally unhide the menu so you can see the question number.

I hope this helps!
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Thank you GMATNinja for considering my post worthwhile :-D

Btw how is junior ninja doing?
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Thank you GMATNinja for considering my post worthwhile :-D

Btw how is junior ninja doing?
In case anybody is wondering about the post mentioned above, gmatexam439 wrote a great post about his approach to improving at RC. If you're struggling on RC, I think that it can be incredibly valuable to read about the experiences of a test-taker who suffered through RC recently, and had to work pretty darned hard to improve. The post is available here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/preparing-fo ... 69893.html.

And thank you for asking about the junior ninja, gmatexam439! She's doing well. Seven and a half months old already, and already showing ninja-like eating skills. Her command of quadratics and parallelism still need some work, but that's cool. ;)
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GMATNinja, What could be the approach for longer passages of around 600-650 words? The above mentioned approach has been really helpful to me in shorter passages, but for longer passages, my accuracy dips down. Also, if a passage contains mostly data based questions, does looking for structure helps, or is there a different approach that can be taken?

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GMATNinja, What could be the approach for longer passages of around 600-650 words? The above mentioned approach has been really helpful to me in shorter passages, but for longer passages, my accuracy dips down. Also, if a passage contains mostly data based questions, does looking for structure helps, or is there a different approach that can be taken?

Thank you.
I'd argue that the framework laid out in this article probably becomes MORE necessary on longer passages. If the passage is longer, then it's even easier to lose track of the big picture (i.e., the structure of the overall argument and the author's purpose), and let the passage turn into "factfactfactfactfactfactfact."

I'd bet anything that the dip you're seeing on longer passages is mostly because you're not able to keep up with the overall point of the passage -- maybe that's just a general concentration problem, but it's also possible that you're just not paying enough attention to WHY the author is writing the post, and that's likely to cause trouble.

Unless you're seeing really, really easy questions, it's incredibly unlikely that you'll see a passage that doesn't ask you -- in some way -- about the overall point of the passage. The overwhelming majority of passages will explicitly ask you a main idea or primary purpose question. And once you get to, say, 700-level questions, nearly all of the questions themselves require you to understand the overall point of the passage.

For example: at the highest levels, you won't get asked to just regurgitate what the author says in, say, line 17; instead, you'll be asked to analyze the author's statement in line 17 in the context of the overall passage.

So unfortunately, there's really no way to avoid understanding the big picture of the passage if you want to achieve a super-high score. There might be other frameworks for understanding that big picture, but understanding the facts alone -- without grasping the broader context -- can only hurt you. And that might be especially true on longer passages.

I hope this helps a bit!
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hi GMATNinja,
Can you suggest a good book to read to improve reading comprehension skills?
I have read all the 3 non-fiction books suggested by BB in his post. I've improved my comprehension tremendously reading the books suggest by BB.
I was hoping for something challenging(similar to the 700 level passages) and relate-able to the Gmat content.
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Can you suggest a good book to read to improve reading comprehension skills?
I have read all the 3 non-fiction books suggested by BB in his post. I've improved my comprehension tremendously reading the books suggest by BB.
I was hoping for something challenging(similar to the 700 level passages) and relate-able to the Gmat content.
Awesome question, savwildeye. Two of our GMAT Ninja tutors are aspiring novelists and avid bookworms, and they're working on a pair of articles with a bunch of book recommendations.

I'll post both articles here on GMAT Club once they're polished up, but in the meantime, here are a few of our favorites from their lists:

Nonfiction:

Fiction:

We'll post some much longer lists -- with descriptions of the books -- later this spring.

I hope this helps a bit!
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This is pure gold !!! GMATNinja I have been ardently following your explanations in SC and CR and they have been the single biggest reason sir for my improvement in CR and SC prowess.. I need your expert approaches in RC as well..Have tried looking everywhere for your inputs on RC passages (on the RC thread) but couldnt find any :(. Could you please help me with a couple of links having your explanations on the RC passages..Thanks a million !! :) :)
Thank you so much for the kind words, garimamadas10! I'm glad that our explanations have been helping. :inlove:

You can do a forum search with "GMATNinja" in the "Search for author" field and "Reading Comprehension (RC)" in the "Search in forums" field. That should give you plenty of options (500+ results, holy ****!).

Here are few good ones to get you started:


I hope that helps a bit, and have fun reading!
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GMATNinja : I am a non-native and thus I started with RC first as I knew approx. 40% of the questions are RC. I started with LSAT and right now I write a full LSAT RC set in about 1.5 Hours, I am focusing on Accuracy first over the timing. But for last several sets (I usually do a full set of 27 questions) I am stuck between 75%-80%. I am usually getting LSAT Level 4 or 5 Questions wrong.

Everyday I am also doing Fast Reading exercise using SwiftRead Chrome Extension, this is a game changer as I have raised by speed from 200 Words Per Minute (WPM) to 350 WPM, I usually do this 3x/day and write down the summary of whatever I read in a notebook.

I also do focus exercise, randomly pick an object and keep my thoughts revolving around it for 3-5 minutes, also do it when no one is around as well as when I am in public (being the weirdo) or when I am in the living area (Freaking out my gf).

Plus, I read around 5000 Words as a part of my bedtime routine.

I finished reading LSAT Superprep I RC strategy guides (These were very helpful) + Your RC Videos (Got most questions right in your videos) + I did all Khan Academy Free LSAT resources (These are gem!)

Anyways, long story short, How to take my LSAT accuracy from 80% to 90-100%? At present, I get around 21/27 (-6) per LSAT RC Set.

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GMATNinja : I am a non-native and thus I started with RC first as I knew approx. 40% of the questions are RC. I started with LSAT and right now I write a full LSAT RC set in about 1.5 Hours, I am focusing on Accuracy first over the timing. But for last several sets (I usually do a full set of 27 questions) I am stuck between 75%-80%. I am usually getting LSAT Level 4 or 5 Questions wrong.

Everyday I am also doing Fast Reading exercise using SwiftRead Chrome Extension, this is a game changer as I have raised by speed from 200 Words Per Minute (WPM) to 350 WPM, I usually do this 3x/day and write down the summary of whatever I read in a notebook.

I also do focus exercise, randomly pick an object and keep my thoughts revolving around it for 3-5 minutes, also do it when no one is around as well as when I am in public (being the weirdo) or when I am in the living area (Freaking out my gf).

Plus, I read around 5000 Words as a part of my bedtime routine.

I finished reading LSAT Superprep I RC strategy guides (These were very helpful) + Your RC Videos (Got most questions right in your videos) + I did all Khan Academy Free LSAT resources (These are gem!)

Anyways, long story short, How to take my LSAT accuracy from 80% to 90-100%? At present, I get around 21/27 (-6) per LSAT RC Set.

Thanks.
Apologies for our slowness on this!

Sadly, it's really hard to diagnose what, exactly, is going wrong with your RC based just on forum threads or emails. It's always possible that you've bumped into the limits of your reading skills, and further improvements to your process won't necessarily help.

But I'm going to cheat a little bit, and quote your post from another thread:
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Hello GMATNinja aka Bossman Charles: I am currently stuck at 70% accuracy with LSAT RC (Did over 300 questions), that too untimed, with timing I end up around 60%. I usually do a full-set in one go to test my endurance.

I am reading National Geographic, WSJ, The Economist (2- articles/day), as I read those I am comprehending and doing recall exercise at the end of couple paragraphs as they run 3-4 times than a regular passage. I also recall all articles and passage I read the very next day to improve recall function of my brain (if there's such things ....)

I have watched lots of RC videos to fix any technique and did few trail and error. This is what my approach is now:

1. Focused reading that is interactive
2. Comprehend each sentence and paragraph, summarize the paragraph at the end
3. Summarize the passage once read in my head
4. Try to do the general global questions without looking back to the text, sometimes do go back
5. I Go back to the passage for reference questions
6. Always use POE

I wonder if there's any book you can recommend to understand or dig further for each question type. My accuracy is really low for "Main point/Purpose" question, like around 50%, Inference about 70%
First of all, your reading routine is really, really impressive! And so is the general improvement from ~40% to 70-80%. Seriously: that's one heck of an achievement already, and I'm not just saying that to be nice. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Now for some bad news: frankly, I don't think there's a ton of value in obsessing over specific question types on RC. When we work with our private tutoring students, we teach them a general approach to reading passages more effectively (basically, a personalized version of the ideas found in our beginner's guide to RC here on GMAT Club, and also in our RC videos). Once a student puts those ideas into practice effectively, we very rarely see any disproportionately weak performances by question type, other than maybe inferences -- and any disproportionate struggles on inference questions are usually easy to fix (more on that in this video).

Other than that, if you're disproportionately missing a particular question type, odds are decent that it's a problem with how you're reading the passage itself. And that's even more true if you're struggling disproportionately with main idea questions.

I can't generally give a granular, accurate diagnosis without actually watching you work through a passage, but here's my hunch: when you say that you're "summarizing" each paragraph, I'd bet that you're not quite fully digging into WHY the author wrote each paragraph. There's a really subtle distinction between understanding the topic or main points or key facts of each paragraph, and REALLY understanding their purpose, and how the author has constructed his or her overall argument.

Again, I can't be sure, but everything you're saying suggests that the disconnect has something to do with the fact that you're probably still too engaged in the facts, and you're not quite driving to the heart of the author's purpose. So then you're very likely to miss the big-picture questions a bit more often. If my hunch is right, then your lack of a grasp of the author's purpose and structure probably hurts you a bit on some of the other questions, too.

This is a really tough thing to improve on. I say quite a bit about it in some of those RC videos, but I know that it's really, really hard to feel the difference between deeply engaged reading -- in which you're thoroughly grasping the author's overall purpose -- and reading that's basically accurate, but is still operating at the "fact fact fact fact fact" level.

I have no idea if that makes any sense, and I don't know if it helps at all. But I'm pretty sure that I'm barking up the right general tree, for whatever little that's worth. :)
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Hey Charles! You guys at GMAT Ninja are my favourite and so damn amazing. Your lectures are out of the world awesome :)

I just had one little doubt. Since you mentioned read for purpose and other gimmicks to avoid in note-making. what exactly should be an ideal note-making approach? I remember you saying that it is personalized and the explanation of disengaged reading but as per you how to go about taking notes? Like the one where you just write the big picture or anything else?
I hope you got my question and apart from this, you're just pure amazing!
Cheers!
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