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Two students are discussing three themes from One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.

Sipho maintains that every portion of the novel addresses at least one of the themes of time, fate, or magic, but that only 20% of the novel addresses all three themes and that 10% addresses magic only (among these three themes). Further details of his assessment are provided in the Venn diagram.

Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.

Select from each drop-down menu the option that creates a statement that is consistent with the information provided.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #1]% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #2]% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­

Hello chetan2u / Bunuel ,

First part :

Anika maintains that ----- % of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.

Doesn't ALSO here means that theme of time AND team of fate ? 
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Why are we taking 100% here as answer ?­
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I can write ‘ Anika maintains that ----- % of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.’
as ‘ Anika maintains that ----- % of the novel that addresses the theme of time addresses the theme of time AND the theme of fate.­

Now, you will realize that 10+20+40 or 70% that addresses the theme of time is a part of theme of fate also, so 100%
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Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.
 

Sipho's assessment:
Only M = 10%
Only (M&T) = 10%
Only (T&F) = 40%
Only (M&F) = 20%
T&F&M = 20%

Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic.
So, Anika agrees that whatever is under each of the theme remains under the same theme.
Time - 70%, Fate - 80% and Magic - 60%

 

­As inferred (refer texts in blue) that Anika agrees that each ot the theme remains under the same theme, I used this to maintain individual sums to 70%, 80% and 60% resp even after Anika's changes. So I assumed Anika made 4 changes to Sipho's VD:
1. T&F&M - 20% to 30%.
2. Only(M&F) - 20% to 30%.
3. Only(T&F) - 40% to 20%.
4. Only(T) - 0% to 20%.

Changes 3 and 4 are done to maintain individual sums under each theme.
The solution mentions changes 1 & 2 only. This yields ans of st1. as 100%.
If changes 3 & 4 are also included, then st1. ans is 80%.

My query: If Anika makes changes while agreeing to indv theme totals by Sipho, should we not maintain the individual sums for each theme?

Please help. chetan2u egmat KarishmaB
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Two students are discussing three themes from One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.

Sipho maintains that every portion of the novel addresses at least one of the themes of time, fate, or magic, but that only 20% of the novel addresses all three themes and that 10% addresses magic only (among these three themes). Further details of his assessment are provided in the Venn diagram.

Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.

Select from each drop-down menu the option that creates a statement that is consistent with the information provided.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #1]% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #2]% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­


 

I favour visual approaches and that is what I would use here too: make a new venn diagram as per Anika to answer the question.

We are told that Anika agrees with Sipho's assessment - if he says that a section addresses magic, she agrees. 
If he says that a section addresses time, she agrees. etc. 

But, she is adding themes to portions of the novel. She says that every section that addresses magic addresses fate too. So she moved the magic circle inside the fate circle. The 10% "only magic" part got added to the 20% "magic and fate" part to give 30% "magic and fate" part.
The 10% "magic and time" part got added to the 20% part of "all three." 
Basically, this is what it looked like (attached).

Attachment:
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Note that in the original venn also, "only time" = 0 and "only fate" = 0. The given percentages already add up to 100. 

Anika maintains that 100% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate. (ANSWER)

The 70% which is in Time circle is in Fate circle too. Hence 100% of the novel that addresses Time addresses Fate too. (So essentially time circle is also inside fate circle)

Anika maintains that 60% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­ (ANSWER)

Magic circle has 60%. 




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Two students are discussing three themes from One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.

Sipho maintains that every portion of the novel addresses at least one of the themes of time, fate, or magic, but that only 20% of the novel addresses all three themes and that 10% addresses magic only (among these three themes). Further details of his assessment are provided in the Venn diagram.

Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.

Select from each drop-down menu the option that creates a statement that is consistent with the information provided.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #1]% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #2]% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­



 

I favour visual approaches and that is what I would use here too: make a new venn diagram as per Anika to answer the question.

We are told that Anika agrees with Sipho's assessment - if he says that a section addresses magic, she agrees. 
If he says that a section addresses time, she agrees. etc. 

But, she is adding themes to portions of the novel. She says that every section that addresses magic addresses fate too. So she moved the magic circle inside the fate circle. The 10% "only magic" part got added to the 20% "magic and fate" part to give 30% "magic and fate" part.
The 10% "magic and time" part got added to the 20% part of "all three." 
Basically, this is what it looked like (attached).

Attachment:
Screenshot 2024-03-26 at 6.50.58 PM.png


Note that in the original venn also, "only time" = 0 and "only fate" = 0. The given percentages already add up to 100. 

Anika maintains that 100% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate. (ANSWER)

The 70% which is in Time circle is in Fate circle too. Hence 100% of the novel that addresses Time addresses Fate too. (So essentially time circle is also inside fate circle)

Anika maintains that 60% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­ (ANSWER)

Magic circle has 60%. 




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­Hi KarishmaB, I understood your solution and analysis. Thanks for the prompt response.

What I am still doubtful about is as follows:
Total(Fate) now is 100% as opposed to 80% eariler.

How is this in sync with what Anika said?

Refer Q portion: In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic.

If this is true. Shouldn't changes be made s.t. Total(fate) remains as 80%?
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Two students are discussing three themes from One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.

Sipho maintains that every portion of the novel addresses at least one of the themes of time, fate, or magic, but that only 20% of the novel addresses all three themes and that 10% addresses magic only (among these three themes). Further details of his assessment are provided in the Venn diagram.

Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.

Select from each drop-down menu the option that creates a statement that is consistent with the information provided.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #1]% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.

Anika maintains that [Dropdown Placeholder #2]% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­



 

I favour visual approaches and that is what I would use here too: make a new venn diagram as per Anika to answer the question.

We are told that Anika agrees with Sipho's assessment - if he says that a section addresses magic, she agrees. 
If he says that a section addresses time, she agrees. etc. 

But, she is adding themes to portions of the novel. She says that every section that addresses magic addresses fate too. So she moved the magic circle inside the fate circle. The 10% "only magic" part got added to the 20% "magic and fate" part to give 30% "magic and fate" part.
The 10% "magic and time" part got added to the 20% part of "all three." 
Basically, this is what it looked like (attached).

Attachment:
Screenshot 2024-03-26 at 6.50.58 PM.png


Note that in the original venn also, "only time" = 0 and "only fate" = 0. The given percentages already add up to 100. 

Anika maintains that 100% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate. (ANSWER)

The 70% which is in Time circle is in Fate circle too. Hence 100% of the novel that addresses Time addresses Fate too. (So essentially time circle is also inside fate circle)

Anika maintains that 60% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­ (ANSWER)

Magic circle has 60%. 




­

­Hi KarishmaB, I understood your solution and analysis. Thanks for the prompt response.

What I am still doubtful about is as follows:
Total(Fate) now is 100% as opposed to 80% eariler.

How is this in sync with what Anika said?

Refer Q portion: In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic.

If this is true. Shouldn't changes be made s.t. Total(fate) remains as 80%?


But that is not correct. Total fate cannot remain 80.

When Sipho says this portion A has fate, she agrees. When he says portion B has magic, she agrees. But she says that portion B has fate too. This is additional info given by her and hence fate has gone up to 100.
She agrees with Sypho on all that Sypho says a portion has. But she doesn’t agree with him on what he says the portion doesn’t have. As per him, 10% portion has only magic. She says it does have magic but it has fate too.

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Two students are discussing three themes from One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.

Sipho maintains that every portion of the novel addresses at least one of the themes of time, fate, or magic, but that only 20% of the novel addresses all three themes and that 10% addresses magic only (among these three themes). Further details of his assessment are provided in the Venn diagram.

Anika agrees with much of Sipho's assessment. In particular, for any portion of the novel that, according to Sipho's assessment, addresses the theme of time, Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic. However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.




 

Sipho's assessment:
Only M = 10%
Only (M&T) = 10%
Only (T&F) = 40%
Only (M&F) = 20%
T&F&M = 20%

Anika agrees that the portion indeed addresses the theme of time. Likewise for the themes of fate and magic.
So, Anika agrees that whatever is under each of the theme remains under the same theme.
Time - 70%, Fate - 80% and Magic - 60%

However, contrary to Sipho's assessment, Anika maintains that every portion of the novel that addresses the theme of magic also addresses the theme of fate.
The 60% under theme of magic is also under time.
So, 10%(only(T&M)) moves under fate theme too, so adds on to T&F&M to increase it from 20% to 30%.
Also, 10%(Only(M)) moves under fate theme too, so adds on to F&M to increase it from 20% to 30%.

­Anika maintains that x% of the novel that addresses the theme of time also addresses the theme of fate.
As we can see now that entire 100% has moved under FATE, so surely 100% of theme of time has also moved under FATE.  x=100%

Anika maintains that y% of the novel addresses the theme of magic.­  
There is no shift inwards or outwards from the Magic theme. Only it moves under fate too. so y remains at 60%



 

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Could you elaborate on the first question? I thought it as follows: the definition of percentage is (part/total)*100 so part is the pieces of Venn that include time and fate so 70% of the novel. Total are the 3 sections: t-f 40%, f-m 30%, t-f-m 30% and I ended up again to 70%. Probably in both solutions I'm missing the same point chetan2u KarishmaB GMATCoachBen ScottTargetTestPrep manasp35­
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