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Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long, are oviparous, and produce up to 30 eggs which are deposited in hollow tree trunks or rotting logs.

A. A. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
B. B. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs, growing up to 5 mm,
C. C. Boomslangs, rarely weighing more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
D. D. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,
E. E. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,
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Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long, are oviparous, and produce up to 30 eggs which are deposited in hollow tree trunks or rotting logs.

A. A. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
B. B. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs, growing up to 5 mm,
C. C. Boomslangs, rarely weighing more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
D. D. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,
E. E. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,


(A) Lack of parallelism: weighing……or growing……. is not parallel to with 3 large grooved fangs; instead having 3 large grooved fangs is preferred. The words grow and long are redundant.

(B) The participial modifier growing to be… refers to the subject Boomslangs wrongly.

(C) The conjunction "and" is wrong. The words grow and long are redundant.

(D) The conjunction "and" is wrong.

(E)Correct. Fixes all the problems above.


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Is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage?

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Is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage?


Good question. It does not sound natural to me either... does not mean it is wrong, just not natural.
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Original meaning: rarely weighing more than 500 gm AND growing more than 160 cm, are two characteristics of Bloomslangs. so shouldn't the //lel marker be AND instead of OR

Also elements //lel markers are
1. weighing more than 500 gm
2. growing more than 160 cm
3. but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long

So I feel (C) adheres to all correctness

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Underlined portion says:

Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,

But Answer A says:

Boomslangs, rarely weighing more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,

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Please review the official explanation for answer B. The option doesn't use growing to be as mentioned. Rather the OA uses grow to be.

Could you also please clarify why doesn't growing up to refer to fangs in option B. If there was no comma after fangs would the sentence be correct? Some help would be appreciated!

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Is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage?


Good question. It does not sound natural to me either... does not mean it is wrong, just not natural.


I have the same question.

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I have a general question. Why a prepositional phrase, such as with 3 large grooved fangs, and a verb-ing modifier cannot be parallel? In the above SC question, all the phrases 'weighing ...', 'growing ...' and 'with 3 large ...' modify Boomslangs logically. Is there a rule regarding this issue? Of course I know that the verb-ing phrase 'having ...' is preferred.

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Echoing the same concern as above posters about the explanation of option B on the OE
Also, can someone please clarify how does weighing rarely is different from rarely weighing in explanation of option D
One more thing weighing is acting as participle or adjective?

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Echoing the same concern as above posters about the explanation of option B on the OE
Also, can someone please clarify how does weighing rarely is different from rarely weighing in explanation of option D
One more thing weighing is acting as participle or adjective?


1. It is preferred in GMAT that present participle modifiers (verb-ing modifiers) and prepositional phrase modifiers are not mixed up in a parallel structure.

2. Explanation is modified.

3. All noun modifiers function as adjectives.

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Is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage?


Good question. It does not sound natural to me either... does not mean it is wrong, just not natural.


I have the same question.


I have the same question - is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage. I landed on the right answer but I was hesitant to pick it because ''grow to be 5mm" didnt seem natural. I would really appreciate if someone can clarify.

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I have the same question - is ''grow to be 5mm" correct usage. I landed on the right answer but I was hesitant to pick it because ''grow to be 5mm" didnt seem natural. I would really appreciate if someone can clarify.

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It is absolutely alright. An official question uses the phrase "grow to be".

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My query is regarding the use of AND vs OR in the question. Shouldn't we use AND since weight and length are two different attribute and these two features are simultaneous.Please advice

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My query is regarding the use of AND vs OR in the question. Shouldn't we use AND since weight and length are two different attribute and these two features are simultaneous.Please advice


There are two characteristics that are rarely seen in Boomslangs:

A. weigh more than 500 gm
B. more than 160 cm

The intended meaning is not that A and B simultaneously happen rarely.

The meaning intended to convey is: Neither A is frequently seen nor Y is frequently seen...... i.e., A OR B is rarely seen.

Another way of looking at the problem is to consider that rarely conveys a negative sense ( not frequently seen). Thus one may consider the following logical operator to understand why OR is better:

NOT (A AND B).............i.e., not A and B together
= NOT A OR NOT B............i.e., either it is not A or it is not B or it is not both. It can be only A, but not B. It can also be only B, but not A.

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Hi, Not convinced with the explanation of C. It conveys the correct idea that Bomslangs rarely weigh X and rarely grow Y but having Z, are P. As a reader who knows nothing about the subject would find the information quite logical. So why do we say that the intended meaning should use OR.


Let me try to explain once again:

A A boomslang does not weigh more than 500 grams.
B. A boomslang does not grow more than 160 cm.

If you want to join the above sentences you must join with OR. Joining with "AND" conveys a different (illogical) meaning than intended.
A boomslang does not weigh more than 500 grams and does not grow more than 160 cm.
The above sentence implies that a boomslang may grow more than 160 cms, but then it would be less than 500 gm. On the other hand it may weigh more than 500 gms, but then it would then be less than 160 cm long. If you consider logically you will find this statement absurd - it is common knowledge that longer an item, more would be the weight. You do not need to know anything about boomslang specifically to derive this.

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Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long, are oviparous, and produce up to 30 eggs which are deposited in hollow tree trunks or rotting logs.

A. A. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
B. B. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs, growing up to 5 mm,
C. C. Boomslangs, rarely weighing more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
D. D. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,
E. E. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,


(A) Lack of parallelism: weighing……or growing……. is not parallel to with 3 large grooved fangs; instead having 3 large grooved fangs is preferred. The words grow and long are redundant.

(B) The participial modifier growing to be… refers to the subject Boomslangs wrongly.

(C) The conjunction "and" is wrong. The words grow and long are redundant.

(D) The conjunction "and" is wrong.

(E)Correct. Fixes all the problems above.


Answer: E


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Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long, are oviparous, and produce up to 30 eggs which are deposited in hollow tree trunks or rotting logs.

A. A. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm or growing more than 160 cm, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
B. B. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs, growing up to 5 mm,
C. C. Boomslangs, rarely weighing more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow up to 5 mm long,
D. D. Boomslangs, weighing rarely more than 500 gm and growing more than 160 cm, but having 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,
E. E. Boomslangs, rarely more than 500 gm in weight or more than 160 cm in length, but with 3 large grooved fangs that can grow to be 5 mm,


(A) Lack of parallelism: weighing……or growing……. is not parallel to with 3 large grooved fangs; instead having 3 large grooved fangs is preferred. The words grow and long are redundant.

(B) The participial modifier growing to be… refers to the subject Boomslangs wrongly.

(C) The conjunction "and" is wrong. The words grow and long are redundant.

(D) The conjunction "and" is wrong.

(E)Correct. Fixes all the problems above.


Answer: E


can someone explain how are the rules of parallelism followed in option E. and also can someone tell me why is and as conjunction
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First, your second query:

Consider the following logical operators:

Not (A or B) = not A and not B.. (AU B)’ = A’ ∩ B’
Not (A and B) = not A or not B.. (A∩B)’ = A’U B’

Rarely more than 500 gm in weight OR more than 160 cm in length = mostly less than 500 gm in weight AND less than 160 cm in length - correct.

Rarely more than 500 gm in weight AND more than 160 cm in length = mostly less than 500 gm in weight (but could be more than 160 cm in length) OR less than 160 cm in length (but could be more than 500 gm in weight) - incorrect.

Now, for your first query, you need to elaborate what parallelism issue you see in option E.

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High quality question - couldn't catch the meaning precisely and ended up using 'and' instead of 'or'.

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