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Updated on: 14 Sep 2019, 01:30
Originally posted by ItalianGuy on 13 Sep 2019, 08:28.
Last edited by ItalianGuy on 14 Sep 2019, 01:30, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by ItalianGuy on 14 Sep 2019, 01:30, edited 1 time in total.
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Hi all!
This is the first time that I write in this forum; I hope that I have found the right section for my post. I would like to apply to an MBA in the U.S. in a year from now (2021 intake / class of 2023). Could you please evaluate my profile and suggest business schools that I should target? Please find below some information about me.
PROFILE
• Gender: Male
• Nationality: Italian
• Age: 30 years old
• GMAT: 690; 5 (IR); 3.5 (AWA) --> I will probably retake the test
• IELTS: 7 (expected)
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
• Big 4 Firm A – Italy
o 1.5 years as Senior Consultant --> I expect to be promoted to Manager in October 2020
• Big 4 Firm B – Italy
o 1.5 years as Consultant
o 0.5 years as Intern
• University A – Netherlands
o 4 months as Teaching Assistant (part time)
EDUCATION
• MSc in Management (2014-2015) – University A – Netherlands – GPA of 8.6/10 cum laude (corresponding approximately to 4/4)
• MSc in Economics (2013-2014) – University A – Netherlands – GPA of 7.7/10 (corresponding approximately to 3.5/4)
• BSc in Economics (2009-2013) – University B – Italy - GPA of 93/110 (corresponding approximately to 3/4)
• Full-cycle degree in Law (2008-2009) – University B – Italy – I did not like studying law and, thus, I switched to Economics in the following year
VOLUNTEERING & EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES
• Career advisor for graduate students attending University A
• No significant extracurricular activities
RECOMMENDATIONS
• My current employer will not recommend me (the point is that telling my employer that I am willing to pursue an MBA would jeopardize my chances of being promoted to Manager, as expected, in October of the upcoming year)
CAREER GOALS
• Short-term goal: shift from management consulting to strategy consulting
• Long-term goal: move to industry in a strategy or management role
Thank you!
This is the first time that I write in this forum; I hope that I have found the right section for my post. I would like to apply to an MBA in the U.S. in a year from now (2021 intake / class of 2023). Could you please evaluate my profile and suggest business schools that I should target? Please find below some information about me.
PROFILE
• Gender: Male
• Nationality: Italian
• Age: 30 years old
• GMAT: 690; 5 (IR); 3.5 (AWA) --> I will probably retake the test
• IELTS: 7 (expected)
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
• Big 4 Firm A – Italy
o 1.5 years as Senior Consultant --> I expect to be promoted to Manager in October 2020
• Big 4 Firm B – Italy
o 1.5 years as Consultant
o 0.5 years as Intern
• University A – Netherlands
o 4 months as Teaching Assistant (part time)
EDUCATION
• MSc in Management (2014-2015) – University A – Netherlands – GPA of 8.6/10 cum laude (corresponding approximately to 4/4)
• MSc in Economics (2013-2014) – University A – Netherlands – GPA of 7.7/10 (corresponding approximately to 3.5/4)
• BSc in Economics (2009-2013) – University B – Italy - GPA of 93/110 (corresponding approximately to 3/4)
• Full-cycle degree in Law (2008-2009) – University B – Italy – I did not like studying law and, thus, I switched to Economics in the following year
VOLUNTEERING & EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES
• Career advisor for graduate students attending University A
• No significant extracurricular activities
RECOMMENDATIONS
• My current employer will not recommend me (the point is that telling my employer that I am willing to pursue an MBA would jeopardize my chances of being promoted to Manager, as expected, in October of the upcoming year)
CAREER GOALS
• Short-term goal: shift from management consulting to strategy consulting
• Long-term goal: move to industry in a strategy or management role
Thank you!
13 Sep 2019, 22:18
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Hi ItalianGuy
Are you dead-set on the US? There were some changes in UK law yesterday allowing international students 2 years of post MBA work authorization starting next year. The thing is, in the US there is a preference for younger candidates with higher GMAT scores. I am not sure about your target schools but you can likely get a better score. Keep in mind that for MBB you need a 700 for a top 20 school 720 for a top 10 school.
But to be very honest, here in the US strategy consulting is a very ageist situation; they don't lean towards hiring older applicants because it is awkward to pay a 27 year old the same as a 33 year old. they realize that the 33 year old guy is less likely to be willing to work insane hours and might be closer to wanting a family and some balance.
The situation is different in the UK and Europe. You might honestly think more about going to INSEAD or LBS. Are you sure you cannot achieve this transition without an MBA? Would be important to articulate why you need an MBA to achieve your goal.
Are you dead-set on the US? There were some changes in UK law yesterday allowing international students 2 years of post MBA work authorization starting next year. The thing is, in the US there is a preference for younger candidates with higher GMAT scores. I am not sure about your target schools but you can likely get a better score. Keep in mind that for MBB you need a 700 for a top 20 school 720 for a top 10 school.
But to be very honest, here in the US strategy consulting is a very ageist situation; they don't lean towards hiring older applicants because it is awkward to pay a 27 year old the same as a 33 year old. they realize that the 33 year old guy is less likely to be willing to work insane hours and might be closer to wanting a family and some balance.
The situation is different in the UK and Europe. You might honestly think more about going to INSEAD or LBS. Are you sure you cannot achieve this transition without an MBA? Would be important to articulate why you need an MBA to achieve your goal.
ItalianGuy
14 Sep 2019, 02:35
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Hi MBAPrepCoach!
Thank you very much for your reply!
"Are you dead-set on the US?" --> I know that in Europe I would probably have better chances to get into a top MBA and to land a very good job afterwards. However, I really want to move to the US, and getting an MBA in Europe would not help me to achieve that goal.
"I am not sure about your target schools" --> I would love to hear some suggestions from you! In which schools do you think that I might fit?
"Keep in mind that for MBB you need a 700 for a top 20 school 720 for a top 10 school" --> I am confident that I can score in the 700-720 range at the GMAT but I am not necessarily focused on MBB. I would definitely look at the strategy arms of Big 4 firms (Monitor, Strategy &, Parthenon or KPMG's in-house Global Strategy Group) or at comparable companies.
"Here in the US strategy consulting is a very ageist situation" --> Do you think that I can still have decent chances to get into firms other than MBB (see examples above) or would you suggest that I pursue a career path different from strategy? In the worst-case scenario, I would be fine with staying in my current function and industry as long as I can actually move to the US, where working conditions are much better than in Italy. Keeping this in mind, I was also considering 1-year MBA programs, such as Cornell's.
Are you sure you cannot achieve this transition without an MBA? --> I have already tried multiple times without success. Thus, I am quite sure that I cannot do so without an MBA.
Thank you very much for your reply!
"Are you dead-set on the US?" --> I know that in Europe I would probably have better chances to get into a top MBA and to land a very good job afterwards. However, I really want to move to the US, and getting an MBA in Europe would not help me to achieve that goal.
"I am not sure about your target schools" --> I would love to hear some suggestions from you! In which schools do you think that I might fit?
"Keep in mind that for MBB you need a 700 for a top 20 school 720 for a top 10 school" --> I am confident that I can score in the 700-720 range at the GMAT but I am not necessarily focused on MBB. I would definitely look at the strategy arms of Big 4 firms (Monitor, Strategy &, Parthenon or KPMG's in-house Global Strategy Group) or at comparable companies.
"Here in the US strategy consulting is a very ageist situation" --> Do you think that I can still have decent chances to get into firms other than MBB (see examples above) or would you suggest that I pursue a career path different from strategy? In the worst-case scenario, I would be fine with staying in my current function and industry as long as I can actually move to the US, where working conditions are much better than in Italy. Keeping this in mind, I was also considering 1-year MBA programs, such as Cornell's.
Are you sure you cannot achieve this transition without an MBA? --> I have already tried multiple times without success. Thus, I am quite sure that I cannot do so without an MBA.
