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Joined: 17 Dec 2014
Last visit: 28 May 2017
Posts: 14
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Location: Germany
Concentration: International Business, Social Entrepreneurship
Schools: Yale '17 (M) Kellogg '17 (A) Duke '17 (A)
GMAT 1: 710 Q47 V40
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22 Dec 2014, 13:52
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Hi there, I’d like to turn to the collective wisdom here for some additional arguments in my decision making.
Quick facts on me:
- Current position: Pricing consultant in Germany for 4 years at leading global boutique
- I have no experience so far in the social sphere
- ST goal: Transition into Social Impact Consulting (think FSG/Dalberg/Bridgespan)
- LT goal: Something in the intersection between business, politics and society aka nonmarket (it actually sounded nicer in my application
)
- Strong focus on international/global as opposed to US opportunities
The decision boils down to Kellogg vs Yale, with Duke trailing behind as they offered no scholarship and are somewhat behind the other two in reputation and rankings.
Yale:
+ Undisputable #1 in social/non-profit
+ Ivy brand name: I know a lot of people discount Yale’s name pull in these forums, but if we are not talking about Harvard, then nobody outside of selected business circles in Europe knows about the likes of Kellogg, Tuck, etc., whereas everyone everywhere knows Yale
+ Trying to build a strong global network with the GNAM and new international partnerships
o Up and coming in rankings and reputation (for years, I know… but maybe slowly it changes properly)
- Business/consulting part seems to be a bit looked down upon in the US, as well as maybe also within the greater Yale (alumni) community
Kellogg:
+ Well-focused and ranked on social/non-profit (think SEEK)
+ Top-7 program - that speaks for itself
+ $50k cheaper due to better scholarship offer
+ More student-run initiatives and generally a more “communicative” environment (reinforced again by the social media activity in all the Admit forums)
- Brand name virtually unknown in Europe as also mentioned by my German interviewer (Kellogg alumn 2008) as well as outside of the MBB consulting types
In my mind it all boils down to two questions: 1) Do I want to stay solely in business (unlikely); 2) Is the Ivy brand worth $25k per year (Europe outside business might be a yes)?
As I only have the chance for one admit weekend, I chose the Yale one to find out more on fit.
I’ll be offline during holidays, so feel free to run wild and I will weigh in in the new year. The ranking is just up for the fun of it but shouldn’t influence me, whereas I am looking for some quality arguments
Thanks in advance for your answers, and a happy holiday season to all of you!
Quick facts on me:
- Current position: Pricing consultant in Germany for 4 years at leading global boutique
- I have no experience so far in the social sphere
- ST goal: Transition into Social Impact Consulting (think FSG/Dalberg/Bridgespan)
- LT goal: Something in the intersection between business, politics and society aka nonmarket (it actually sounded nicer in my application
)- Strong focus on international/global as opposed to US opportunities
The decision boils down to Kellogg vs Yale, with Duke trailing behind as they offered no scholarship and are somewhat behind the other two in reputation and rankings.
Yale:
+ Undisputable #1 in social/non-profit
+ Ivy brand name: I know a lot of people discount Yale’s name pull in these forums, but if we are not talking about Harvard, then nobody outside of selected business circles in Europe knows about the likes of Kellogg, Tuck, etc., whereas everyone everywhere knows Yale
+ Trying to build a strong global network with the GNAM and new international partnerships
o Up and coming in rankings and reputation (for years, I know… but maybe slowly it changes properly)
- Business/consulting part seems to be a bit looked down upon in the US, as well as maybe also within the greater Yale (alumni) community
Kellogg:
+ Well-focused and ranked on social/non-profit (think SEEK)
+ Top-7 program - that speaks for itself
+ $50k cheaper due to better scholarship offer
+ More student-run initiatives and generally a more “communicative” environment (reinforced again by the social media activity in all the Admit forums)
- Brand name virtually unknown in Europe as also mentioned by my German interviewer (Kellogg alumn 2008) as well as outside of the MBB consulting types
In my mind it all boils down to two questions: 1) Do I want to stay solely in business (unlikely); 2) Is the Ivy brand worth $25k per year (Europe outside business might be a yes)?
As I only have the chance for one admit weekend, I chose the Yale one to find out more on fit.
I’ll be offline during holidays, so feel free to run wild and I will weigh in in the new year. The ranking is just up for the fun of it but shouldn’t influence me, whereas I am looking for some quality arguments
Thanks in advance for your answers, and a happy holiday season to all of you!
22 Dec 2014, 19:36
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did you..
..talk to people at FSG, Dalberg, Bridgespan and get their perceptions? check how many students are recruited each year from Kellogg and Yale SOM? and how many of them do not have social impact experience (like you)?
..talk to people in your LT dream job (i.e. upper management at gov non-profit or ngo's) to get their perceptions on Yale SOM and Kellogg?
..talk to current students or alumni at either school to get a sense of the student body and the school experience? (usually a LOT MORE informative than the school's marketing material posted online)
..consider what would happen if you didn't get into one of those 3 firms (where your odds are probably pretty low)? would you rather graduate from Kellogg or Yale SOM?
My guess is that most people who go into non-profit or non-profit consulting after business school already have a solid background in social impact and those who don't have an easier time breaking in when they come from higher ranked school. In other words, Yale SOM might send a lot of kids into non-profit world but your odds are probably better at Kellogg. And your odds are most other jobs would be better coming off of Kellogg. Plus you have a better package.. so in my mind it's not even a close call.
And as far as Ivy League prestige goes.. I'd venture that most business people will be more impressed with K than Y.
..talk to people at FSG, Dalberg, Bridgespan and get their perceptions? check how many students are recruited each year from Kellogg and Yale SOM? and how many of them do not have social impact experience (like you)?
..talk to people in your LT dream job (i.e. upper management at gov non-profit or ngo's) to get their perceptions on Yale SOM and Kellogg?
..talk to current students or alumni at either school to get a sense of the student body and the school experience? (usually a LOT MORE informative than the school's marketing material posted online)
..consider what would happen if you didn't get into one of those 3 firms (where your odds are probably pretty low)? would you rather graduate from Kellogg or Yale SOM?
My guess is that most people who go into non-profit or non-profit consulting after business school already have a solid background in social impact and those who don't have an easier time breaking in when they come from higher ranked school. In other words, Yale SOM might send a lot of kids into non-profit world but your odds are probably better at Kellogg. And your odds are most other jobs would be better coming off of Kellogg. Plus you have a better package.. so in my mind it's not even a close call.
And as far as Ivy League prestige goes.. I'd venture that most business people will be more impressed with K than Y.
23 Dec 2014, 11:35
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Kellogg is a tier better than Yale, is the top school for consulting, and has given you more money...Choice should be easy.
You're completely discounting the global reach of Kellogg. People making hiring decisions in Europe know of Kellogg, and know it's better than Yale.
You're completely discounting the global reach of Kellogg. People making hiring decisions in Europe know of Kellogg, and know it's better than Yale.
