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03 Sep 2015, 19:14
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Hello all
I'm lost as hell and I need some advice
I'm a 34 yr old business development executive from Libya. I come with 9 years working for Halliburton and one year working for the UN World Food Programme. My experience includes working in Egypt, the U.S., and Libya. GMAT 680 (a little weak on the verbal) and IELTS 8.0. Great EC. I'm an EU family member, which should allow me to work anywhere in the European Economic Area with no issues
Considering I come from a challenged country, and a challenged industry (Oil & Gas), I've been admitted to all these schools, and I need some advice. Heres's the situation:
INSEAD: Singapore campus, no financial aid so far. Not sure what sort of employment options I would be available for a Libyan citizen, whether in the region or in North America. Will have to commute between Singapore and Malayisa to save on accommodation for my family
IE: Offered 15,000 Euros in financial aid. Still negotiating. Job prospects in EU are shaky. Not sure if it will be possible to move to North America afterwards
Schullich: Haven't decided on financial aid yet. Has the advantage of settling in Canada afterwards and getting a Canadian passport. Toronto is not cheap
Thunderbird: a masters of Global Management. Offered full tuition scholarship in addition to some living expenses support. Post graduation employment figures are okayish, but not super. School is not exactly in the league of any of the former spthree schools. But free education? How can you say no?
Advice? Please?
I'm lost as hell and I need some advice
I'm a 34 yr old business development executive from Libya. I come with 9 years working for Halliburton and one year working for the UN World Food Programme. My experience includes working in Egypt, the U.S., and Libya. GMAT 680 (a little weak on the verbal) and IELTS 8.0. Great EC. I'm an EU family member, which should allow me to work anywhere in the European Economic Area with no issues
Considering I come from a challenged country, and a challenged industry (Oil & Gas), I've been admitted to all these schools, and I need some advice. Heres's the situation:
INSEAD: Singapore campus, no financial aid so far. Not sure what sort of employment options I would be available for a Libyan citizen, whether in the region or in North America. Will have to commute between Singapore and Malayisa to save on accommodation for my family
IE: Offered 15,000 Euros in financial aid. Still negotiating. Job prospects in EU are shaky. Not sure if it will be possible to move to North America afterwards
Schullich: Haven't decided on financial aid yet. Has the advantage of settling in Canada afterwards and getting a Canadian passport. Toronto is not cheap
Thunderbird: a masters of Global Management. Offered full tuition scholarship in addition to some living expenses support. Post graduation employment figures are okayish, but not super. School is not exactly in the league of any of the former spthree schools. But free education? How can you say no?
Advice? Please?
03 Sep 2015, 23:01
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I certainly can relate to your quandary. In fact, it seems like I might find myself in a similar situation in a few months.
Going through your post, I get the impression that you'd prefer to work/live in North America post your MBA.
I'd suggest asking yourself (and your family, if pertinent) where you'd like to work/live post your education. If you'd prefer to live in North America, then it'd make sense to go to a North American school, whether Schulich or Thunderbird. If moving to NA is your aim, then it doesn't make much sense to go by a circuitous route of getting an education in Europe and then hoping for something to click and move to NA.
Continuing on that note, between Schulich and Thunderbird, I'd say it depends on what you are looking for. If a better brand name is what you are looking for and living/working in Canada isn't a problem, then Schulich. However, like you said, Toronto is an expensive, and given that you have a family, a cold city. Not sure if that's pertinent for you but personally I'd hate to be living someplace that cold. But ymmv.
Also, Schulich is one of the expensive schools around and given that there's no aid as of yet, going to Schulich would only make sense if you're certain you need a bigger brand name and working in Canada isn't a problem for you. The Canadian market, decent as it may be, just doesn't come close to the States in terms of the number of opportunities.
Thunderbird makes the most sense in a value for $ way. It's a good school, though not in the league of others as you pointed out. But it's free education and the fact is you'll be getting a degree from a school in the States, and you'll be studying in the States so that would present good networking opportunities in the US market. If you wanna work in the US, then Tbird would make more sense than Schulich. And you save a lot of money while at it. Tbird is a decent, play-it-safe option for you. However, I believe the program at T-bird is a 2-year program so you need to take that extra year into account.
On the other hand, if working/living in NA isn't your primary/ultimate goal, then you could look at INSEAD or IE. Between those, given the fact that there's no aid from INSEAD as of yet and the added hassle of commuting from Malaysia to the campus, to me, IE seems like a better option. While both Singapore and Madrid are expensive cities (I'm not certain exactly how much they relate/differ in terms of expenses), IE is a good school and given the financial aid and sans the problem of commuting, I'd choose IE over INSEAD.
Whatever you decide, let us know how it plays out for you. Good luck!
(PS: Hope you don't mind me asking, but given your experience, are you going for an executive MBA at the above-said schools or just the plain ol' "vanilla" MBA? )
Going through your post, I get the impression that you'd prefer to work/live in North America post your MBA.
I'd suggest asking yourself (and your family, if pertinent) where you'd like to work/live post your education. If you'd prefer to live in North America, then it'd make sense to go to a North American school, whether Schulich or Thunderbird. If moving to NA is your aim, then it doesn't make much sense to go by a circuitous route of getting an education in Europe and then hoping for something to click and move to NA.
Continuing on that note, between Schulich and Thunderbird, I'd say it depends on what you are looking for. If a better brand name is what you are looking for and living/working in Canada isn't a problem, then Schulich. However, like you said, Toronto is an expensive, and given that you have a family, a cold city. Not sure if that's pertinent for you but personally I'd hate to be living someplace that cold. But ymmv.
Also, Schulich is one of the expensive schools around and given that there's no aid as of yet, going to Schulich would only make sense if you're certain you need a bigger brand name and working in Canada isn't a problem for you. The Canadian market, decent as it may be, just doesn't come close to the States in terms of the number of opportunities.
Thunderbird makes the most sense in a value for $ way. It's a good school, though not in the league of others as you pointed out. But it's free education and the fact is you'll be getting a degree from a school in the States, and you'll be studying in the States so that would present good networking opportunities in the US market. If you wanna work in the US, then Tbird would make more sense than Schulich. And you save a lot of money while at it. Tbird is a decent, play-it-safe option for you. However, I believe the program at T-bird is a 2-year program so you need to take that extra year into account.
On the other hand, if working/living in NA isn't your primary/ultimate goal, then you could look at INSEAD or IE. Between those, given the fact that there's no aid from INSEAD as of yet and the added hassle of commuting from Malaysia to the campus, to me, IE seems like a better option. While both Singapore and Madrid are expensive cities (I'm not certain exactly how much they relate/differ in terms of expenses), IE is a good school and given the financial aid and sans the problem of commuting, I'd choose IE over INSEAD.
Whatever you decide, let us know how it plays out for you. Good luck!
(PS: Hope you don't mind me asking, but given your experience, are you going for an executive MBA at the above-said schools or just the plain ol' "vanilla" MBA? )
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03 Sep 2015, 23:09
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First of all, Congratulation on this tremendous achievement. It is always nice to be in a position to make choices. From a 10,000 feet view and without knowing anything about your career aspirations, I would suggest you INSEAD. I have always bee biased towards INSEAD as it is my dream school.
I would have factored in scholarship only when schools are from same strata. If financing your MBA is not a problem, I would vote for INSEAD hands down. If not INSEAD, then I would say why not go for a 100% scholarship at Thunderbird.
I would have factored in scholarship only when schools are from same strata. If financing your MBA is not a problem, I would vote for INSEAD hands down. If not INSEAD, then I would say why not go for a 100% scholarship at Thunderbird.
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