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23 Dec 2015, 11:27
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Hi All, This is my first post in GMATClub. I have been silently following the forums for around 6 months now and it has been really a great help. I will write my GMAT, TOEFL and MBA Application experience in detail once I finalize the school I am matriculating from and start loan and visa processing.
Currently, I am in a bit of dilemma after the results of my R1 applications and any advice from persons with relevant knowledge will help me finalize my decision.
My profile – Indian, 34 years old, 11 years of experience in IT Product Development and Services, Currently working as a Project Manager managing a 30 member team for an Indian IT giant, GMAT – 760, TOEFL – 112, have around 4 years of international experience working in UK, want to be in IT Product Management or IT Program Management or Technology Consulting after MBA preferably outside India.
My main choices after R1 is Said Oxford without scholarship and Boston University (Questrom) MS-MBA in Information System with Full scholarship and an extra $10K scholarship. Without the scholarship at BU, Oxford wins hands down. However, I am trying to compare these two only because of the scholarship as Said will mean an extra $80K debt for me.
The pros for Said are –
Oxford Brand,
1 year only so opportunity cost will be around the same as BU.
The cons for Said are –
Getting a job in UK will be very difficult as an Indian due to the current visa rules,
with the amount of debt a job in India will be the last option I would take.
The pros for BU are –
The MS-MBA in Information System program is aligned to my goal,
Minimal debt due to scholarship and I can even think of coming back to India for a job,
Opens an opportunity in US with the location of Boston.
The cons for BU are –
Almost no brand value, overshadowed in Boston by heavy-weights such as Harvard, MIT,
Getting a job in US will still be difficult with my experience and with only the brand of BU,
Even if I come back to India it will be difficult to find a suitable job with only the BU brand which is not that recognized in India.
Even with the uncertain situation of UK Visa and jobs, I am inclined towards Oxford due to the brand value as it will probably compensate the short term hurdles in the longer term. I might consider BU only if someone can provide me a very strong reason. Looking forward to your advices.
Currently, I am in a bit of dilemma after the results of my R1 applications and any advice from persons with relevant knowledge will help me finalize my decision.
My profile – Indian, 34 years old, 11 years of experience in IT Product Development and Services, Currently working as a Project Manager managing a 30 member team for an Indian IT giant, GMAT – 760, TOEFL – 112, have around 4 years of international experience working in UK, want to be in IT Product Management or IT Program Management or Technology Consulting after MBA preferably outside India.
My main choices after R1 is Said Oxford without scholarship and Boston University (Questrom) MS-MBA in Information System with Full scholarship and an extra $10K scholarship. Without the scholarship at BU, Oxford wins hands down. However, I am trying to compare these two only because of the scholarship as Said will mean an extra $80K debt for me.
The pros for Said are –
Oxford Brand,
1 year only so opportunity cost will be around the same as BU.
The cons for Said are –
Getting a job in UK will be very difficult as an Indian due to the current visa rules,
with the amount of debt a job in India will be the last option I would take.
The pros for BU are –
The MS-MBA in Information System program is aligned to my goal,
Minimal debt due to scholarship and I can even think of coming back to India for a job,
Opens an opportunity in US with the location of Boston.
The cons for BU are –
Almost no brand value, overshadowed in Boston by heavy-weights such as Harvard, MIT,
Getting a job in US will still be difficult with my experience and with only the brand of BU,
Even if I come back to India it will be difficult to find a suitable job with only the BU brand which is not that recognized in India.
Even with the uncertain situation of UK Visa and jobs, I am inclined towards Oxford due to the brand value as it will probably compensate the short term hurdles in the longer term. I might consider BU only if someone can provide me a very strong reason. Looking forward to your advices.
23 Dec 2015, 21:06
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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your great admits and esp at your age!
I think it is a pretty good comparison/trade off between the schools and you have outlined the main considerations. I would say Said would be a choice for someone looking for a challenge as you will have to lock in a job and jump through some of the immigration hoops - I recommend that you very carefully examine the immigration laws and their potential changes (hire an attorney for a few hours perhaps - it will be $500 or $750 spent well) to cover your butt. The UK visa system is fairly crazy and I have no idea what Syrian refugee crisis has done or will do to it. There won't be an easy way for you to transition to US unless you can recruit into a US position, which is tough right out of school (you would need to possess the skills/talents needed). If your plan to live/work in the US, then this is not the right school. However, for someone looking at UK/Canada/India as the final destination, this is a very strong brand name in those locales.
As to the BU - that's a safe choice. You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that. It is cheap and safe, giving you less stress and more focus on your program, studies, career planning, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that in the US, international work experience is usually not valued as high as US-based experience, so you will not be able to easily cash in on your years of work. You will need to work for it to demonstrate your skills during an internship.
So are you up for a challenge? Does it make you too uncomfortable and you prefer a less stressfull MBA?
I think it is a pretty good comparison/trade off between the schools and you have outlined the main considerations. I would say Said would be a choice for someone looking for a challenge as you will have to lock in a job and jump through some of the immigration hoops - I recommend that you very carefully examine the immigration laws and their potential changes (hire an attorney for a few hours perhaps - it will be $500 or $750 spent well) to cover your butt. The UK visa system is fairly crazy and I have no idea what Syrian refugee crisis has done or will do to it. There won't be an easy way for you to transition to US unless you can recruit into a US position, which is tough right out of school (you would need to possess the skills/talents needed). If your plan to live/work in the US, then this is not the right school. However, for someone looking at UK/Canada/India as the final destination, this is a very strong brand name in those locales.
As to the BU - that's a safe choice. You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that. It is cheap and safe, giving you less stress and more focus on your program, studies, career planning, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that in the US, international work experience is usually not valued as high as US-based experience, so you will not be able to easily cash in on your years of work. You will need to work for it to demonstrate your skills during an internship.
So are you up for a challenge? Does it make you too uncomfortable and you prefer a less stressfull MBA?
23 Dec 2015, 21:45
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I dont completely agree. It is a fairly recognized school especially in NE area.
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I have no doubt that you WILL get a job. Whether it will be your dream job or not thats a different question.
On a different note: I think you can do much better even considering your age. I am saying this in spite of being fully aware that B school prefer younger candidates these days.
