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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9


So, at first glance I thought it was E, but when combining the inequalities I got -2 < x < 2, which all of the values -1, 0 and 1 cause the equation to equal 8 -- but the OA is E - so what did I do wrong here? Thanks!!
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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9


So, at first glance I thought it was E, but when combining the inequalitiesI got -2 < x < 2, which all of the values -1, 0 and 1 cause the equation to equal 8 -- but the OA is E - so what did I do wrong here? Thanks!!


Hi
the highlighted portion is wrong..

1) \(x^2\) < 25

this gives -5<x<5
|x+5| + |x-3|
if 4 then |4+5|+|4-3|=10
if -4 then |-4+5|+|-4-3|=8
Insuff

2) \(x^2\) > 9
this gives x<-3 or x>3
same this is also not suff

combined
either -5<x<-3 OR 3<x<5..
substitute 4 ans is 10
substitute -4 ans is 8..
Insuff
E
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Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution.

What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) x^2 < 25

2) x^2 > 9


When you modify the original condition and the question, a case where sum of 2 absolute values is derived is that the range of in between gets a consistent answer, which is -5<=x<=3?.
There is 1 variable(x), which should match with the number of equations. so you need 1 equation. For 1) 1 equation, for 2) 1 equation, which is likely to make D the answer.
When it comes to inequality questions, if range of que includes range of con, use the fact that that con is sufficient.
For 1), in -5<x<5, the range of que doesn't include the range of con, which is not sufficient.
For 2), in x<-3 or 3<x, the range of que doesn't include the range of con, which is not sufficient.
When 1) & 2), in -5<x<-3 or 3<x<5, the range of que doesn't include the range of con, which is not sufficient.
Thus, the answer is E.


 For cases where we need 1 more equation, such as original conditions with “1 variable”, or “2 variables and 1 equation”, or “3 variables and 2 equations”, we have 1 equation each in both 1) and 2). Therefore, there is 59 % chance that D is the answer, while A or B has 38% chance and C or E has 3% chance. Since D is most likely to be the answer using 1) and 2) separately according to DS definition. Obviously there may be cases where the answer is A, B, C or E.
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we have three concerned ranges

x < -3 here equation will be -2x-2
-3 =< x < 5 here equation value is 8
x >= 5 Here equation value will be 2x + 2

so only for 2nd range we have a fixed value.

Stmt 1 implies -5 < x < 5 insufficient as it covers more than one of the three above mentioned ranges.
Stmt 2 implies x < -3 and x > 3 insufficient as it covers more than one of the three above mentioned ranges.

Combining statement 1 & 2 -5<x < -3 and 3<x<5 insufficient as it covers more than one of the three above mentioned ranges.

Ans E
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Bunuel, when we simplify x^2<25, do we write |x|<5 or x<|5| ?

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Bunuel, when we simplify x^2<25, do we write |x|<5 or x<|5| ?

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\(x^2 < 25\)

Take the square root from both sides: \(|x| < 5\) (recall that \(\sqrt{x^2}=|x|\)).

Hope it's clear.
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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9


So, at first glance I thought it was E, but when combining the inequalities I got -2 < x < 2, which all of the values -1, 0 and 1 cause the equation to equal 8 -- but the OA is E - so what did I do wrong here? Thanks!!

First of all the solution is -5<x<-3 or 3<x<5. Next, you assume with no ground that x is an integer.

Hope it helps.
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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9

Asked: What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25
|x| < 5
-5<x<5
For the region -5<x<=3
|x+5| + |x-3| = 8
But for the region 3<x<5
|x+5| + |x-3| = 8 + 2(x-3) = 2+2x
NOT SUFFICIENT


2) \(x^2\) > 9
|x| > 3
x<-3 or x>3
|x+5| + |x-3| varies with the value of x
NOT SUFFICIENT

(1) + (2)
1) \(x^2\) < 25
2) \(x^2\) > 9
3<|x|<5
-5<x<-3 or 3<x<5
For the region -5<x<-3
|x+5| + |x-3| = 8
But for the region 3<x<5
|x+5| + |x-3| = 2 + 2x
NOT SUFFICIENT

IMO E
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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9


So, at first glance I thought it was E, but when combining the inequalitiesI got -2 < x < 2, which all of the values -1, 0 and 1 cause the equation to equal 8 -- but the OA is E - so what did I do wrong here? Thanks!!


Hi
the highlighted portion is wrong..

1) \(x^2\) < 25

this gives -5<x<5
|x+5| + |x-3|
if 4 then |4+5|+|4-3|=10
if -4 then |-4+5|+|-4-3|=8
Insuff

2) \(x^2\) > 9
this gives x<-3 or x>3
same this is also not suff

combined
either -5<x<-3 OR 3<x<5..
substitute 4 ans is 10
substitute -4 ans is 8..
Insuff
E

I tested a few numbers and got the answer right.
Although when I combined the two equations I interpreted it this way:
stat 1 says -5<x<5 and stat 2 says x>3 or x<-3

Thus, combining we can see from stat 1 that x<5 and from stat 2 that x<-3, thus combining these we see x<-3
Similarly combining the cases of what x should be bigger than, we get x>3
Thus, the final combined range becomes x>3 or x<-3 (essentially the same as stat 2), amd since stat 2 was anyway insuff, I marked E

Where did I go wrong in combining the two stats ? Experts pls help chetan2u VeritasKarishma Bunuel MathRevolution
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Chitra657, that will not be the correct interpretation.

-5<x<5
…….-5|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|5…..
x<-3 or x>3
xxxxxxxxx-3|………|3xxxxxxxxxx

x is the marked range of x
What is common in two that fits in both the ranges
…..-5|xxxxx|-3……..3|xxxxxxx|5…..
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Where did I go wrong in combining the two stats ? Experts pls help chetan2u VeritasKarishma Bunuel MathRevolution

Do one thing - mark the inequalities you have obtained on the number line.
The blue line shows -5 < x < 5
The two black arrows show x > 3 or x < -3.
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Which areas fall under both inequalities? (since both inequalities need to be satisfied)?
The 3 < x < 5 and -5 < x < -3
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Hi there,
Out of interest, why would one assume that x is an integer when no where in the question does is state that x is an integer?
It seems like it is necessary to get to the answer in the right way, however I was under the impression that unless a question states that 'x is an integer', you should not assume it?
Thanks!
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If \(-5 < x < -3\) (second range), then \(|x + 5| + |x - 3|=8\)

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Could I please ask, how we can be sure that x = -4 here, as we are not given that x is an integer. Cant it be any value say -4.2, -3.5 etc?
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If \(-5 < x < -3\) (second range), then \(|x + 5| + |x - 3|=8\)

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Could I please ask, how we can be sure that x = -4 here, as we are not given that x is an integer. Cant it be any value say -4.2, -3.5 etc?

For the range -5 ≤ x ≤ -3, the value of |x + 5| + |x - 3| is 8 regardless of the exact value of x. You can verify this by testing any x within -5 < x < -3. This happens because when -5 ≤ x ≤ 3, then x + 5 ≥ 0 and x - 3 ≤ 0, leading to |x + 5| = x + 5 and |x - 3| = -(x - 3). Therefore, in this range, |x + 5| + |x - 3| simplifies to x + 5 - (x - 3) = 8, which resolves to 8 = 8. Hence, |x + 5| + |x - 3|= 8 is valid for any value within this range.

Hope it's clear.
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But i read somewhere that even roots only have a positive value in GMAT
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What is the value of |x+5| + |x-3| ?

1) \(x^2\) < 25

2) \(x^2\) > 9


So, at first glance I thought it was E, but when combining the inequalitiesI got -2 < x < 2, which all of the values -1, 0 and 1 cause the equation to equal 8 -- but the OA is E - so what did I do wrong here? Thanks!!


Hi
the highlighted portion is wrong..

1) \(x^2\) < 25

this gives -5<x<5
|x+5| + |x-3|
if 4 then |4+5|+|4-3|=10
if -4 then |-4+5|+|-4-3|=8
Insuff

2) \(x^2\) > 9
this gives x<-3 or x>3
same this is also not suff

combined
either -5<x<-3 OR 3<x<5..
substitute 4 ans is 10
substitute -4 ans is 8..
Insuff
E
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But i read somewhere that even roots only have a positive value in GMAT

Yes, the even roots cannot give a negative result. However, where do you see this violated?
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