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# Which of the following is a possible length for side AB of triangle AB

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Which of the following is a possible length for side AB of triangle ABC if AC = 6 and BC = 9?

I. 3
II. 9 √3
III. 13.5

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) III only
(D) II and III
(E) I, II, and III
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

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21 May 2008, 09:17
Should be II and III.
Sum to two sides of triangle should be greater than third side.
I is not possible because 3 + 6 = 9 which is not greater than 9 (length of third side).
For Both II and III you add any two pairs and the sum of pairs is greater than the length of third side.

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It cant be II because 9*3^(0.5)>15, and the thirs side must be less than 15.

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05 Jun 2008, 13:05
The third side of a triangle should be less than the sum of the other 2 sides and greater than the mod(difference of 2 sides)

so, x should lie between mod(y-z)<x<y+z
(9-6)<x<9+6
3<x<15

only value is 13.5

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05 Jun 2008, 14:10
2 and 3 for me as well .... we need the third side to be between 3 and 15, i.e. 3<x<15

Both 2 and 3 fit this requirement

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05 Jun 2008, 14:34
9(3^1/2) = 15.58>15 ...only 3.

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05 Jun 2008, 15:01
yes, how silly of me

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05 Jun 2008, 22:54
Rules for a triangle
(1)Third side is always greater than the difference of two other sides
(2) Third side is always less than the sum of two other sides
Going by above rules only 13.5 satisfies the condition.
jimmyjamesdonkey wrote:
Which of the following is a possible length of the side AB of the triangle ABC if AC = 6 and BC = 9?

I. 3
II. 9(sqrt3)
III. 13.5

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jimmyjamesdonkey wrote:
Which of the following is a possible length for side AB of triangle ABC if AC = 6 and BC = 9?

I. 3
II. 9 √3
III. 13.5

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) III only
(D) II and III
(E) I, II, and III

The length of any side of a triangle must be larger than the positive difference of the other two sides, but smaller than the sum of the other two sides.

(9 - 6) < AB < (9 + 6)
3 < AB < 15.

Only 13.5 is in this range ($$9\sqrt{3}\approx{9*1.7}=15.3>15$$).

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23 May 2015, 22:22
Its still not convincing for me to consider C as the correct answer because no where the question states AB is the third side or the longest side.. If for example we consider the AB = 3 (answer Choice A), The side of the triangle would be 3,6 and 9.. Now 9 becomes the third side and satisfies all the constraints of the third side.. The same is applicable for the rest two choices.. I feel answer in E.. Can someone explain whats the assumption am missing here ?

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Hi ragunandan,

You have to be very careful with the logic here.

If you have sides of 3, 6 and 9, then you DO NOT actually have a triangle - you have a line segment with a length of 9 "on top of" another line segment with a length of 9. You can use a ruler and physically draw it on a piece of paper if that will help you to visualize the issue.

From a "math" standpoint, if 9 is the longest side, then the other two sides have to SUM to a value that is GREATER than 9 (otherwise you don't have a triangle) and a DIFFERENCE that is LESS than 9.

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Hi Rich, Thanks for the detailed explanation. #Helpful

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Hi Harsh,Thanks for the explanation.. It was simpler and neat..

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jimmyjamesdonkey wrote:
Which of the following is a possible length for side AB of triangle ABC if AC = 6 and BC = 9?

I. 3
II. 9 √3
III. 13.5

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) III only
(D) II and III
(E) I, II, and III

POINT : The effort here is to make the rule of triangle more precise and less time consuming

We know the rule in different forms however we only need to know the rule in just one line

i.e. SUM OF TWO SHORTER SIDES > LONGEST SIDE OF THE TRIANGLE

FOR THE TRIANGLE TO EXIST

Let's apply this in this case

For Finding the range of values of the Third side

For minimum value of the third side AB, We must consider the given BC = 9 as the longest side

Hence AB (Min) + AC > BC

i.e. AB (Min) + 6 > 9

i.e. AB (Min) > 3

For Maximum value of the third side AB, We must consider the given BC = 9 and Ac=6 as the two shorter sides

Hence AC + BC > AB (Max.)

i.e. 6 + 9 > AB (Max.)

i.e. AB (Max.) < 15

i.e. the range of AB becomes

3 < AB < 15

I. 3 NOT ACCEPTABLE
II. 9 √3 - 9x1.73 = 15.3 NOT ACCEPTABLE
III. 13.5 ACCEPTABLE

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The third side of a triangle must be less than the sum of the other two sides and greater than their difference (i.e. |y - z| < x < y + z).
In this question:
|BC - AC| < AB < BC + AC
9 - 6 < AB < 9 + 6
3 < AB < 15
Only 13.5 is in this range. 9sqrt3 is approximately equal to 9(1.7) or 15.3.
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