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apukas - did you find the school visits helpful in narrowing down the list of schools you want to apply to?

As you were visiting the schools, what factors became the most important in helping you narrow your list? (i.e. did you find the class visit more helpful than the info session? How helpful were the meet & greets with current students?)
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Nice post!

I'm curious...after visiting all those schools, which school(s) impressed you the most?
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I also agree that in the grand scheme of things all the schools are pretty close... In the end its about what you can get out of your MBA... I believe majority ( maybe not all) of students can get what they want from most of the top ranked schools...
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Having visited a subset (6) of these schools, I found pretty significant differences in the students themselves, specifically: how they carried themselves and what their opportunities were like.

Another differentiating for me was the quality of international opportunities available. I found that there were progressively less quality and quantity of opportunities the further down the chain you went.

This could also be generalized by the number and quality of general opportunities available. Students at the tip-top schools tended to talk about students over-committing due to wanting to take advantage of all the opportunities available. Studenst at lower tier schools did not have this "problem."
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Interesting read. I'm also curious to know which schools left the best impression on you..
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Having visited a subset (6) of these schools, I found pretty significant differences in the students themselves, specifically: how they carried themselves and what their opportunities were like.

Another differentiating for me was the quality of international opportunities available. I found that there were progressively less quality and quantity of opportunities the further down the chain you went.

This could also be generalized by the number and quality of general opportunities available. Students at the tip-top schools tended to talk about students over-committing due to wanting to take advantage of all the opportunities available. Studenst at lower tier schools did not have this "problem."
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Could you post individual impressions that you got for the 6 schools that you visited? It would be a great resource for those of us who are not able to make the visit.
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Disclaimer: These are impressions I got after short visits to each school. I was able to attend class at every school except Sloan, and meet current students either through admissions programs or through my personal network. Nonetheless, I met only a handful of students and admissions people.

Wharton: Very integrated into the UPenn campus. The class I attended was discussing a case in a relatively relaxed manner. Some students had laptops out. MBA Pub was a blast and students were friendly and interesting to chat with. Quite a number of students were from INSEAD (Fontainebleau and Singapore). Despite its reputation as being a finance school, I saw quite a lot of entrepreneurship related activities (although not really comparable to Silicon Valley by any means). As a program, there seem to be plenty of opportunities with directed major paths to guide.

Harvard: Gorgeous campus, very isolated from Harvard University. Students are quite proud of that fact. Class size is gigantic. The atmosphere felt like a corporate atmosphere, and Harvard's reputation as a general management school seemed very true. Students admitted that the competition could be cutthroat at times. Admissions very proud of the fact that they didn't ask "Why Harvard?" explicitly in their essays since "Everyone knows HBS is the best." HBS is extremely regimented and the path is very well defined with only minor room for tweaking. Harvard's new dean came from Sloan and has implemented some ideas at HBS (FIELD).

Sloan Was unable to attend class as Sloan Innovation Period (SIP) was going on. The new campus is very nice, especially when compared to the older buildings right next to it. It's pretty far from campus, but there's a lot of integration between Sloan and MIT. The class size is small, and many students were pursuing a myriad of interests. In addition to the MIT integration, there is also interaction between Sloan Fellows (the executive MBA's) and Sloanies. Sloan seems very decentralized, with plenty of opportunities for its students to make the most of. The class size is very small and the group is very tight-knit. One student described to me how a fellow Sloanie helped him prepare for an interview despite the fact that they were competing for the same job.

CBS Very close to the Columbia University campus, though I believe they are moving soon to a newer set of buildings. Many people were focused on finance and wanted to stay in NYC. The program seemed relatively decentralized with a number of centers, programs, and institutes that it is loosely affiliated with. One student remarked that the cost of the program/living in NYC was extremely high, and planned to pursue investment banking after explicitly to pay off his debt before pursuing his true passions (although this seems like a plausible scenario at almost any top school).

Stanford GSB The Knight Management Center is far and away the nicest bschool campus I visited. The energy in the courtyard is absolutely amazing. I visited just before summer, and students had more or less made preparations for the summer already. It was particularly interesting that some of the students had already been exposed to Menlo Park politics (X VC wants to give me money but won't because I took money from Y VC in the past). Despite the fact that the curriculum is not as freeform as say Sloan, Stanford was the school that felt like it had the least emphasis on school, as many students were pursuing entrepreneurial opportunities. Nevertheless, both lectures I attended were amazing and students were very enthusiastic about participation.

Haas Part of the Berkeley campus. Haas has a pretty small class size as well (although not as small as Sloan). Haas' student body still had the tight knit feel of Sloan, and the students were especially friendly about meeting visitors and spending times with them, even those outside of the admissions program. There were quite a number of students pursuing entrepreneurial opportunities for the summer, but I noticed that they were not talking to as many big names as the Stanford GSBers were talking to. In terms of curriculum flexibility, it was somewhere between Sloan and Wharton.

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Thanks for all your feedback! One point of correction, though: the Haas class size is actually smaller than that of Sloan. Off the top of my head, Haas is around 250 and Sloan is around 400.
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Stupandaus, you have provided some nice info on the schools you visited and this should be helpful, especially to those who haven't had a chance to visit. I thought I would add to it. I also visited a subset of 6 of the Top 16 schools. Since they are mostly different from those Stupandaus visited, I thought I would share my impressions. To give some context, I visited this past February while I was interviewing at the schools. I was also an international applicant, so I was visiting from abroad.

Wharton: Can't really add to what Stupendaus said as I didn't get the chance to sit in on a class.

Booth: By far the most gorgeous b-school building among the schools I visited. The Harper Center just blew me away. A lot of "superstar" students (and applicants) with prior experience in MBB or BB IB. Although Booth is known for Finance, there is a lot of emphasis on Entrepreneurship and with the Polsky Center they definitely have the resources to help would be entrepreneurs. They even give you office space to set up an "office" if you start a company while at Booth. They also really marketed their "flexible" curriculum and noble laureate faculty to applicants. Current students mentioned that among the current crop there was higher interest, and hence more competition, for Management Consulting than for Finance.

Tuck: The students at Tuck were by far the most enthusiastic about being there when compared to students of the other schools I visited. The facilities were great and it is one of the few b-schools in which most 1st years live in dorms on campus which I thought was fantastic. The students were very eager and engaging in the class I visited (they were doing a case study). The Tuck campus is gorgeous and life at Tuck seemed a bit removed from the rest of Dartmouth, which I think is one of the reasons that Tuckies are such a tight-knit group. Every one I met seemed really fun and students came from diverse backgrounds. I actually spent a good portion of my interview discussing online poker strategies with my interviewer (a 2nd year student) :lol: .

Ross: The facilities are great especially with the new building (completed a couple of years ago I think). Typical Big 10 campus with the business school integrated into it. And I think they make everyone drink some sort of Michigan kool-aid that makes them love football. EVERYONE of the students I talked to loved Ross and mentioned Michigan Football, partying and drinking! They were definitely a fun bunch :-D. There is heavy emphasis on MAP which I personally think is a fantastic opportunity. The quality of students seemed great although maybe not as consistent as at Booth and Tuck.

Darden: Definitely the best weather among the schools I visited. The b-school building is not as new as Ross or Booth but not too shabby either. It is 100% case study and that seems to take its toll on the students. Several students I met told me that they spent an ungodly amount of time studying. Nobody seemed happy about the workload. They did seem like a tight-knit group but more in the sense of sharing a "foxhole" together. The class I attended was by far the best and most engaging one among my schools. The No 1 faculty ranking is definitely well deserved. The professor was awesome, and the way he kept everyone engaged was extraordinary (and it was early in the morning too).

Cornell Johnson: The b-school building and facilities were OK but nothing great. Its very integrated with the rest of the campus which is quite beautiful. The student and adcom heavily market it as an "Ivy League MBA" and make use of the Cornell brand name often which I think says something their lack of confidence in the Johnson brand. I wasn't really as impressed by the student body as at the other schools I visited. A few 1st year students I met and talked to while randomly walking around campus seemed extremely unhappy about the course load of the core courses during the 1st year. Since they had to go off-campus for recruiting it severely affected their schedule. They told me that if I ended up coming to Johnson I should test out of as many core courses as possible. And hardly anyone wanted to participate in the class I attended although the professor was great (though to be fair it was a finance class).


In the end I ended up choosing to attend Tuck over Booth because of the campus environment and because I "connected" more with the students there. Had I not had the chance to visit, I would have most likely picked Booth because of the higher ranking and brand name. I would urge everyone who has a chance to visit the schools they apply to, even international students if they can manage.

I hope this information is helpful to others. Please do keep in mind that these are all great schools and I am comparing them to each other and not to any school outside of the Top 16.
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Thanks for the detailed impressions Gokhra! Very good to know. What time of the year did you visit Charlottesville? You say it had the best weather among those schools... though I'm looking at the forecast now and it looks like a ghastly 102 degrees today, with some form of thunderstorms in 7 out of the next 10 days... hopefully, if I do end up attending Darden, I'll be far far removed from Charlottesville during the summers on a dream internship. ha!

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Stupandaus, you have provided some nice info on the schools you visited and this should be helpful, especially to those who haven't had a chance to visit. I thought I would add to it. I also visited a subset of 6 of the Top 16 schools. Since they are mostly different from those Stupandaus visited, I thought I would share my impressions. To give some context, I visited this past February while I was interviewing at the schools. I was also an international applicant, so I was visiting from abroad.

Wharton: Can't really add to what Stupendaus said as I didn't get the chance to sit in on a class.

Booth: By far the most gorgeous b-school building among the schools I visited. The Harper Center just blew me away. A lot of "superstar" students (and applicants) with prior experience in MBB or BB IB. Although Booth is known for Finance, there is a lot of emphasis on Entrepreneurship and with the Polsky Center they definitely have the resources to help would be entrepreneurs. They even give you office space to set up an "office" if you start a company while at Booth. They also really marketed their "flexible" curriculum and noble laureate faculty to applicants. Current students mentioned that among the current crop there was higher interest, and hence more competition, for Management Consulting than for Finance.

Tuck: The students at Tuck were by far the most enthusiastic about being there when compared to students of the other schools I visited. The facilities were great and it is one of the few b-schools in which most 1st years live in dorms on campus which I thought was fantastic. The students were very eager and engaging in the class I visited (they were doing a case study). The Tuck campus is gorgeous and life at Tuck seemed a bit removed from the rest of Dartmouth, which I think is one of the reasons that Tuckies are such a tight-knit group. Every one I met seemed really fun and students came from diverse backgrounds. I actually spent a good portion of my interview discussing online poker strategies with my interviewer (a 2nd year student) :lol: .

Ross: The facilities are great especially with the new building (completed a couple of years ago I think). Typical Big 10 campus with the business school integrated into it. And I think they make everyone drink some sort of Michigan kool-aid that makes them love football. EVERYONE of the students I talked to loved Ross and mentioned Michigan Football, partying and drinking! They were definitely a fun bunch :-D. There is heavy emphasis on MAP which I personally think is a fantastic opportunity. The quality of students seemed great although maybe not as consistent as at Booth and Tuck.

Darden: Definitely the best weather among the schools I visited. The b-school building is not as new as Ross or Booth but not too shabby either. It is 100% case study and that seems to take its toll on the students. Several students I met told me that they spent an ungodly amount of time studying. Nobody seemed happy about the workload. They did seem like a tight-knit group but more in the sense of sharing a "foxhole" together. The class I attended was by far the best and most engaging one among my schools. The No 1 faculty ranking is definitely well deserved. The professor was awesome, and the way he kept everyone engaged was extraordinary (and it was early in the morning too).

Cornell Johnson: The b-school building and facilities were OK but nothing great. Its very integrated with the rest of the campus which is quite beautiful. The student and adcom heavily market it as an "Ivy League MBA" and make use of the Cornell brand name often which I think says something their lack of confidence in the Johnson brand. I wasn't really as impressed by the student body as at the other schools I visited. A few 1st year students I met and talked to while randomly walking around campus seemed extremely unhappy about the course load of the core courses during the 1st year. Since they had to go off-campus for recruiting it severely affected their schedule. They told me that if I ended up coming to Johnson I should test out of as many core courses as possible. And hardly anyone wanted to participate in the class I attended although the professor was great (though to be fair it was a finance class).


In the end I ended up choosing to attend Tuck over Booth because of the campus environment and because I "connected" more with the students there. Had I not had the chance to visit, I would have most likely picked Booth because of the higher ranking and brand name. I would urge everyone who has a chance to visit the schools they apply to, even international students if they can manage.

I hope this information is helpful to others. Please do keep in mind that these are all great schools and I am comparing them to each other and not to any school outside of the Top 16.
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Thanks for the detailed impressions Gokhra! Very good to know. What time of the year did you visit Charlottesville? You say it had the best weather among those schools... though I'm looking at the forecast now and it looks like a ghastly 102 degrees today, with some form of thunderstorms in 7 out of the next 10 days... hopefully, if I do end up attending Darden, I'll be far far removed from Charlottesville during the summers on a dream internship. ha!
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I visited back in February. Back then it was significantly more pleasant weather than in New England, Chicago or Ann Arbor. I think that would hold true throughout the academic year and as you mentioned, during the summer you will hopefully be at your dream internship :)
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Let's be honest. Stanford/Silicon Valley has the nicest weather in the world.
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Let's be honest. Stanford/Silicon Valley has the nicest weather in the world.
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No arguments there!
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In the end I ended up choosing to attend Tuck over Booth because of the campus environment and because I "connected" more with the students there. Had I not had the chance to visit, I would have most likely picked Booth because of the higher ranking and brand name. I would urge everyone who has a chance to visit the schools they apply to, even international students if they can manage.

I hope this information is helpful to others. Please do keep in mind that these are all great schools and I am comparing them to each other and not to any school outside of the Top 16.
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Thanks for this information. It is greatly helpful.

Did you attend before or after your admission?
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In the end I ended up choosing to attend Tuck over Booth because of the campus environment and because I "connected" more with the students there. Had I not had the chance to visit, I would have most likely picked Booth because of the higher ranking and brand name. I would urge everyone who has a chance to visit the schools they apply to, even international students if they can manage.

I hope this information is helpful to others. Please do keep in mind that these are all great schools and I am comparing them to each other and not to any school outside of the Top 16.

Thanks for this information. It is greatly helpful.

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icaniwill,

I visited the schools when I was invited to interview. So, before I was admitted. I was an international applicant (from Asia), which meant that visiting the schools was a huge investment of time and money for me. For this reason I could not visit before I sent in applications. Once I received several interview invites, making one trip to visit all the schools AND interview in person became more cost effective. And, as I mentioned before, I am glad I did. It was time and money well spent.

It also didn't make sense for me to go all the way back to the U.S. to visit the schools after I was admitted, especially since I already had visited once. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to attend all, or even some, of the admitted student weekends. It just wasn't feasible. I would however recommend those who can realistically attend admitted student weekends, to do so. They are a great way to make your final decision if you are deciding between two or more admits.

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GMAT 2: 690 Q47 V38
GMAT 3: 740 Q49 V42
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Schools: Cnsrtm-Darden '15 (M) McDonough '15 (A) Cnsrtm-Johnson '15 (D) Cnsrtm-Tuck '15 (D) Tepper '15 (A)
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16 Top US Business Schools Visited – Impressions 13 Jul 2012, 14:11
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Great post apukas! Way to get the ball rolling. Some really great information in this forum. Doolitte - well done on putting everything in perspective.

Stupandaus and Gokhra - your posts are very insightful - in a more specific way. I wonder, apukas, could you elaborate a little in some way kind of like Stup and Gok have done? I believe someone has already posed the question, but, from your general takeaways from your school visits, what were the specific takeaways? Where did you end up choosing to go? What was the deciding factor, if not the visits? Thanks.
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16 Top US Business Schools Visited – Impressions 24 Apr 2018, 00:21
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