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A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.
(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.
(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.


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Step 1: Identify the Question

The word assumption in the question stem shows that this is a Find the Assumption question.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

Painting might be by D or B (B sometimes painted like D)
D = Germany, B = France
Picture frame is wood from Germany → D is the artist

There are two possible candidates for the creator of a particular painting. Based on where the picture’s frame likely came from, the author concludes that the artist came from the same location. Must it be the case that the artist and the picture frame came from the same location?

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On Assumption questions, the goal is to find an unstated fact that would have to be true in order for the logic of the argument to be reasonable. If this statement were false, the argument wouldn’t make logical sense.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) CORRECT. This must be true in order for the author’s reasoning to be sound. If the frame had instead been made from wood that originated elsewhere, the author couldn’t draw any connection between the frame’s origin and the painting’s origin.
(B) Since the painting was framed with German wood, not French, whether Drechen visited France is irrelevant. The argument already makes it clear that the painting was not framed with wood from France, regardless of who visited the area and who created the painting.
(C) This doesn’t have to be true in order for the logic of the argument to be reasonable. In fact, in order to accept the argument, it’s necessary to assume that it is possible to determine who created this particular painting with some degree of certainty.
(D) The artist didn’t necessarily have to choose the frame himself. Somebody else in the same geographic area, such as a local buyer, might have chosen the frame.
(E) It’s necessary to assume that the carving style wasn’t especially typical of France, or the argument’s reasoning would be damaged, since it would then be more likely that the frame was created in France. However, the author didn’t assume that the carving style wasn’t typical of any European region. It could have been typical of Germany, or of some other region in Europe outside of both artists’ areas, and the conclusion would still have been reasonable.
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A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.
(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.
(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.

My 2 cents on why D is wrong.

Although D is tempting, we have to be careful in the premise.
The premise hinges upon the location of wood, not whether it was painter or someone else.
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I got this question wrong. Just thought to jot down my thoughts to have a better clarity. Was confused between A and D. Ended up marking D. :cry:

Premise: A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived.

Conclusion: This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Pre-thinking: Wood is widely found in Germany, so the assumption is Drechen was the one who did the painting. The wood cannot be easily used in France(rare in part of France). So we need to look for an option which strengthens this fact and helps in solidifying the conclusion.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

A. The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
[If the wood is not local, then the conclusion will fall apart because that would mean that the wood could have been obtained from anywhere. But the conclusion hinges on the fact that it is from Germany, and so it must have been locally procured. The wood is also rarely available in France, so it cannot be locally procured. So this seems a valid assumption]

B. Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.
[Even if he has, this assumption will not confirm or deny the fact that Drechen did or did not do the painting - Eliminated ]

C. Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.
[in the premise it is mentioned that it seems to be a work of 17th century. Also, we are not concerned if it can be confidently determined or not. We need to find the assumption behind choosing Drechen, this cannot be the assumption. in fact, this weakens it.]

D. The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.
[Now here is where I made a mistake. I negated this statement and assumed that someone else chose it and thought this would definitely cast a doubt when negated and marked this as the answer. Now assuming that someone chose it, it actually does not cast any doubt that Drechen did not do it. In fact, this would not even confirm that Birelle did it. Had that been the case, we could have considered the option. Since negating the statement does not completely shatter the argument we can eliminate this option. ]

E. The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.
[Again this cannot be the assumption, because even if it is not typical it does cast a doubt that Drechen did not do it - eliminated.]
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Although this question is not hard, the combination of the confusion of the question and the pressure of the time causes troubles to test takers.

A,B, and D are left.
B does not sound like an assumption. Ones will find the reason if they have undergone heavy practices.
D just repeats the argument, and D creates an illusion that D is the right answer; however, the correct pattern lies in A.
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A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.
(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.
(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.

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Question Type: Assumption

Premise 1: Analysis of the picture frame, suggests that the wood from which the frame is made out of, is native to northern Germany & is rare in the part of france where Birelle lived.

Conclusion: Hence the painting is most likely the work of Drechen, who hails from northern Germany.

Analysis: For the conclusion to hold the assumption needs that either the wood from which the frame is made is not found anywhere else but Northern Germany or during 17th Century, frames were made from wood available in the local geography, where the painting was created.


(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted. - Therefore the painting was made in Northern Germany & hence it is most likely that Drechen painted it. Correct
(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France. The wood belongs to a tree from northern germany, hence the answer choice doesnt affect that fact irrespective of whether Drechen visited Brille's home region or not. Incorrect
(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it. Weakens the whole argument. Incorrect
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture. However we cannot conclude who chose the frame. Incorrect.
(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe. Weakens the whole argument. Incorrect


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I think that A is not the perfect answer.
Even if we negate the statement and say that "The frame was made from wood NOT local to the region where the picture was painted", there is still possibility that Drechen painted the picture in some other region. To support the conclusion we need another assumption like "Drechen didn't paint any picture outside northern Germany".


Conclusion: This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen

If we negate both the statements A and D.

Quote:
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture
The painter of the picture DID NOT chose the frame for the picture.

If painter of the picture did not choose the frame, may be someone else did. But this doesn't impact the conclusion of the argument mentioned above.
Even if someone else choose the frame, the painting could still be the work of Drechen.

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(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
Negation: The frame was NOT made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.

If we go by this negation and if the frame was NOT made from wood local to the region. This may mean that wood was brought from somewhere else, but not from the region where the painting was painted. Then the conclusion "This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen" falls apart. As Drechen belongs to Germany, and the wood mentioned is local to Germany.
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kate565 wrote:
I think that A is not the perfect answer.
Even if we negate the statement and say that "The frame was made from wood NOT local to the region where the picture was painted", there is still possibility that Drechen painted the picture in some other region. To support the conclusion we need another assumption like "Drechen didn't paint any picture outside northern Germany".


Conclusion: Analysis of the carved picture frame, showed that it is made of wood local to Germany. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen

If we negate both the statements A and D.

Quote:
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture
The painter of the picture DID NOT chose the frame for the picture.

If painter of the picture did not choose the frame, may be someone else did. But this doesn't impact the conclusion of the argument mentioned above.
Even if someone else choose the frame, the painting could still be the work of Drechen.

Quote:
(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
Negation: The frame was NOT made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.

If we go by this negation and if the frame was NOT made from wood local to the region. This may mean that wood was brought from somewhere else, but not from the region where the painting was painted. Then the conclusion "This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen" falls apart. As Drechen belongs to Germany, and the wood mentioned is local to Germany.
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A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.

(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.

(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.

(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.

(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.

Conclusion: painting most likely Drechen's work
Premise: painting frame made of wood in found largely in Germany

Gap: Link between made of wood vs painting done related to the same place...
A says wooden frame local to region where picture was painted....again pointing to same place....connecting evidence to conclusion..
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Hi can anyone explain why A is stronger choice than D? As D is also a plausible assumption because if the artist did not choose a frame then Brielle could have painted the painting and someone from Germany bought it and put a German frame around it.



It doesnt matter who choose the frame.It can be painter /his wife :)/ his company.

What matters is ,the frame was local to the place he lived.
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Hi can anyone explain why A is stronger choice than D? As D is also a plausible assumption because if the artist did not choose a frame then Brielle could have painted the painting and someone from Germany bought it and put a German frame around it.

chetan2u has a great response to this. Also note that if the painter did choose the frame, then the same outcome is still possible. Birelle could have painted the picture and put a German frame around it.
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OG19 Q558 says answer choice B is the correct answer. Is this a printing error?

Yes. OG19 says that (B) is the correct answer is in the answer key, but it says that (A) is the correct answer in the Answer Explanations.
(A) is the correct answer.
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I think that A is not the perfect answer.
Even if we negate the statement and say that "The frame was made from wood NOT local to the region where the picture was painted", there is still possibility that Drechen painted the picture in some other region. To support the conclusion we need another assumption like "Drechen didn't paint any picture outside northern Germany".

You are correct. We are relying on both assumptions. And because one of the assumptions we are relying on is option (A), then option (A) is our correct answer.
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A newly discovered painting seems to be the work of one of two seventeenth-century artists, either the northern German Johannes Drechen or the Frenchman Louis Birelle, who sometimes painted in the same style as Drechen. Analysis of the carved picture frame, which has been identified as the painting’s original seventeenth-century frame, showed that it is made of wood found widely in northern Germany at the time, but rare in the part of France where Birelle lived. This shows that the painting is most likely the work of Drechen.

Which of the following is an assumption that the argument requires?

(A) The frame was made from wood local to the region where the picture was painted.
(B) Drechen is unlikely to have ever visited the home region of Birelle in France.
(C) Sometimes a painting so resembles others of its era that no expert is able to confidently decide who painted it.
(D) The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.
(E) The carving style of the picture frame is not typical of any specific region of Europe.



I ended up choosing A through method of elimination.

Doesnt the part (highlighed in bold) in argument conflicts with the choice A assumption ? Even though that particular wood was rare in France, still it could be considered local to France. Which means it could be painted by Drechen or Birelle....

Would appreciate if someone could help me clear my above mentioned doubt,
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You are right. It still could have been painted by Birelle. However, (A) increases the odds that it was painted by Drechen. And our conclusion only states that it is more likely that Drechen painted the picture, not that he definitely painted the picture.
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GMATNinja can you please tell me why is A the right answer? I am not able to comprehend the meaning behind the statement.
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The correct answer in OG2019 is, however, B...................
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The correct answer in OG2019 is, however, B...................
As gmatman1031 mentioned, that seems to be a mistake. Take a look at the answer explanations section instead.
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Experts please help me with Option A and D. I am not able to reject D.
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Experts please help me with Option A and D. I am not able to reject D.
This is an assumption question, so we are looking for something that the argument needs in order to get to its conclusion. Option D says:

The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.

If we go for D, we're effectively saying that unless the painter himself chose the frame, the conclusion is not correct. But it is not necessary for the painter to have chosen the frame. Even if someone else in the same area chose the frame, the conclusion still stands.
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Hi AjiteshArun in that sense , In option A it is very much possible that someone else has Painted the picture in Germany and then Person D in the passage used the woods locally for the frame. Does not it refute the argument ?

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Experts please help me with Option A and D. I am not able to reject D.
This is an assumption question, so we are looking for something that the argument needs in order to get to its conclusion. Option D says:

The painter of the picture chose the frame for the picture.

If we go for D, we're effectively saying that unless the painter himself chose the frame, the conclusion is not correct. But it is not necessary for the painter to have chosen the frame. Even if someone else in the same area chose the frame, the conclusion still stands.

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