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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Identifying the Ingredients of a Winning Essay



As you gear up to write your application essays, you may have looked at sample “winning” essays published in books or on websites, only to ask yourself afterward, “Sure, these are great, but what do these essays have to do with me?” This blog series will show you how to plan for, draft, and edit outstanding essays. By the end of this series, you will approach your writing with confidence, as you apply what you have learned to your task. 

Ready to get started? Great! Let’s learn how to go from example to exemplary right now.

Let’s jump right in and get started by looking at two sample essays to see what makes them so effective.

The first essay, The Public Health Student, opens with a question:

“What if people lived healthier lives, practiced preventive medicine, and took precautions against illness and disease?”

The “what if?” opening immediately engages the reader and at the same time tells us that the writer aspires to a career in the healthcare sector. We do not have to wait to discover the theme of the essay; it’s right there in the first sentence.

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Let’s look at this great first paragraph: notice how every sentence builds on the sentence that precedes it, adding context for the applicant’s decision to apply to a public health program. By the second sentence, she begins to present her background in the healthcare field, and by the third sentence, she explains why she now doubts that her initial, chosen field of physical therapy will be satisfying in the long-term. She demonstrates self-knowledge in this realization, self-knowledge that has come from her experiences thus far in the healthcare field. By the end of the paragraph, we clearly appreciate the applicant’s motivations for wanting a career on the bigger, broader stage of public health, rather than as a PT. Her decision reflects a logical progression in her career and in her thinking. 

As the essay continues, she continues to build her case for admission by linking her prior work and education to their relevance to the public health field. She writes about relevant coursework she has taken, followed immediately by a succinct discussion of her field work experience. She doesn’t simply list what she did; she goes deeper, discussing what she learned and how these experiences and insights have solidified her commitment to earning the MPH degree. 

Her conclusion is also very effective because she has returned to her opening “what if?” theme. Here she asks a new question: “What if an aspirin a day could prevent heart attacks?” emphasizing that everything she has learned and done so far keeps her riveted by the challenge of finding answers to significant questions in public health.

This essay works because the prose is clear and active. Every sentence offers something new or additional information; there is no fluff. She demonstrates mature self-knowledge, a logical career progression, and offers relevant, specific facts that add strength to her candidacy. This clarity and momentum keeps the pace moving, effectively building the writer’s profile as a promising and serious MPH applicant.

Now let’s take a look at the Returning to School essay from Accepted’s law school section. This essay opens with a colorful, compelling scene that immediately places the reader in the story:

“Fourteen grumpy doctors stare across an enormous oak conference table at me. It is seven o’clock in the morning, and most of the group is still wearing wrinkled green scrubs indicating they worked through the night. None of the doctors look ready to digest the extremely technical information contained in the eight studies stacked neatly in front of them. My job is to present each study, review all relevant economic data, and answer any questions in such a way that the audience will conclude that the new drug I am selling is better than the one they have been prescribing. One of the physicians gruffly informs me, through a mouthful of Danish, that he is leaving in ten minutes so I had better start my pitch.”

Don’t you already feel for this writer and his formidable challenge? I don’t know about you, but he had me hooked right away, and I was rooting for him to win over this very tough audience. That last sentence is also colorful and wonderful, really setting the tone for the essay and the writer’s frustrations at the limitations of his role.

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This four-paragraph essay really packs a punch. While only half of the length of the MPH essay, it still delivers the same winning elements, including specific highlights of career achievements (the writer was Rookie of the Year at his company) and clear and convincing reasons for a career change. He clearly explains his disappointment and fatigue: “My job became less challenging as I had to repeatedly remind the doctors of what I had already discussed with them.”

As “one of the industry’s top representatives,” we can understand his quest for a higher-level intellectual challenge, and cites his work experience and science background that will transfer to a new career in medical law. He makes a convincing case that he is capable of achieving this goal. In the last sentence, he effectively refers back to the “grumpy physicians” we had already met, though with some softness, which keeps him from appearing arrogant. Both writers so far have brought their essays full circle.

Having read and analyzed these essays, you will now have a better grasp of the types of experiences that can build a case for your grad school candidacy. Start making a list of the experiences you have had that will create a compelling scene that will grab your readers’ attention from the first sentence and not let it go until they have reached the final, satisfying conclusion.

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  • Open with a colorful anecdote or a question to engage the reader’s interest from the first sentence. 

  • Hold the reader’s interest by building on your narrative sentence by sentence, adding new information, building your case for admission, and showing self-reflection and insights.
     
  • When you first begin to write, think of it as telling your story to a friend in person over coffee. This will help you get it down in your natural voice without worrying about having a “writer’s” style. Once it’s on paper, you can then begin to edit it into a substantive draft, editing for clarity, length, and impact. 

  • Refer back to your opening when you conclude your essay, bringing your story full circle.

In the next post in this series, we’ll show you how to choose a theme for your exemplary statement of purpose.

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: How to Maximize Your Chances of Acceptance (and Reduce Your Stress!) Before the 2022 MBA Application Season



Do You Have the Right Plan to Win an MBA Acceptance in 2022?

The key to a successful MBA application is planning, planning, and more planning. With so much research to do and so many deadlines to keep track of, you don’t want to get caught unprepared. 

We can help. Our upcoming webinar on Wednesday, February 16, How to Maximize Your Chances of Acceptance (and Reduce Your Stress!) Before the 2022 MBA Application Season, will show you when to begin targeting the dozens of tasks required for your application. Planning for these tasks months in advance will ease your stress while strengthening your application overall, boosting your chances of acceptance at the schools of your choice.  

There is simply nobody better qualified to offer this webinar than Accepted founder and CEO Linda Abraham.

With more than 25 years’ experience guiding clients through the b-school admissions process, Linda will suggest when you should begin the tasks of profile assessment; defining your post-MBA goals; test prep and planning; school research; choosing recommenders, and drafting your essays and resume.

Following this guide will ease your stress and prepare you for success! The session is free, but registration is required. Hurry and reserve your seat today!

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Finding a Theme for Your Statement of Purpose
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All effective essays have a distinctive theme. Referring back to the essays we read [url=https://blog.accepted.com/identifying-the-ingredients-of-a-winning-essay/]in the previous post[/url], we might say that [url=https://www.accepted.com/grad/sampessay03]our MPH candidate’s theme[/url] was her passion for finding answers to significant public health issues. [url=https://www.accepted.com/law/sampessay02]Our law school applicant’s theme[/url] was his yearning for greater intellectual challenges while remaining in the healthcare field.

It may take time and introspection to find your theme. The questions below are designed to [url=https://www.accepted.com/grad/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=ex2ex_finding_theme_for_sop&utm_source=article]help you define your essay’s main message[/url]. Your answers will also help you express your goals, values as they relate to your career choice, motivations for pursuing a graduate degree, and professional dreams. While introspection isn’t as popular an activity as, say, yoga or streaming TV and movies, it’s an important part of this process. Give it some time; your essay will be much better for it.

[list][*]Why are you passionate about – or at least committed to – your career choice?

[/*][*]Diving deeper into the question above, what experiences in your life (personal, educational, professional) have influenced your career goals the most?

[/*][*]Has any individual played a major role in helping you discover these goals or values?

[/*][*]What do you hope to achieve in your career?

[/*][*]What would career success look like in five years? Ten years?

[/*][*]What [url=https://blog.accepted.com/proving-character-traits-in-your-application-essays/]personal strengths[/url] (communication skills, empathy, persistence, etc) do you bring to this career?

[/*][*]What professional skills (organizational, clinical, teaching, mentoring, etc) do you bring to this career?

[/*][*]What experiences can you write about that will highlight these strengths?

[/*][*]After the admissions committee has read your essays, what three words would you hope they would use to describe you? Would you like them to consider you “driven,” “intelligent,” and “creative?” How about “dedicated,” “a leader,” and “focused?” No matter what image you want to create, think about experiences that will illustrate those qualities.[/*][/list]

Once you begin to think about these questions, some answers will come to you quickly, while others will require time to percolate. Write down your ideas, memories, and insights as they come. As they pile up, you will identify those experiences that were colorful or dramatic enough to become your essay introduction. 

If you are writing multiple essays, such as for [url=https://blog.accepted.com/resources/mba-admissions/mba-essay-tip-posts/]different MBA programs[/url], each one must have its own theme. The admissions committee members want to see you as a multifaceted individual and have crafted their questions accordingly. These questions provide you the opportunity to display different aspects of yourself, your values, and your personality.

[b]Summary Tips:[/b]

[list][*]Carve out some time for introspection about your career goals, values, and motivation. (Yes, that means your phone is in another room, or at least on “Do Not Disturb” mode.) 

[/*][*]Develop distinct themes for each essay required for any program requiring more than one essay. Use these opportunities to show yourself as a multifaceted individual.[/*][/list]

In the next post in this series, we’ll share insights into how to write an exemplary MBA goals essay.

[b]Work one-on-one with an expert who will walk you through the process of creating a slam-dunk application when you [url=https://www.accepted.com/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=ex2ex_finding_theme_for_sop&utm_source=blog]check out our catalog of application services[/url]. Our admissions consultants have read thousands of essays and know the exact ingredients of an outstanding essay. [/b]

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By Judy Gruen, former Accepted admissions consultant. Judy holds a Master’s in Journalism from Northwestern University. She is the co-author of Accepted’s first full-length book, MBA Admission for Smarties: The No-Nonsense Guide to Acceptance at Top Business Schools. [b][url=https://www.accepted.com/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=blog_bio_Judy&utm_source=blog]Want an admissions expert help you get accepted? Click here to get in touch![/url][/b]

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[list][*][url=https://reports.accepted.com/guide/from-example-to-exemplary-guide]From Example to Exemplary: How to Use Sample Essays to Make Your Essay Outstanding[/url][/*][*][url=https://blog.accepted.com/how-to-write-a-goal-statement-for-graduate-school/]How to Write a Goal Statement for Graduate School[/url][/*][*][url=https://blog.accepted.com/showing-strengths-in-application-essays/]3 Tips for Showing Strengths in Your Application Essays[/url][/*][/list]
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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Follow the Calendar to Ensure MBA Acceptance in 2022
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Time marches on, and every month during 2022 is a month when you can be making strides toward an MBA application that will wow the admissions committee.

With so many demands on your time, don’t you want to follow a time-tested strategy that will help you tackle each step toward acceptance? From analyzing your profile to defining your goals to researching programs and finding recommenders, this roadmap is the plan that winners will use.

Join us on Wednesday, February 16 at 5 pm PT/8 pm ET for our free, information-packed webinar, [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/maximize-your-chances-of-acceptance?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_source=webinar&utm_medium=Maximize_Your_Chances_of_Acceptance_Feb_2022_p2]How to Maximize Your Chances of Acceptance (and Reduce Your Stress!) Before the 2022 MBA Application Season[/url]. This engaging presentation provides a practical approach to crafting a successful MBA application.

Accepted founder and CEO Linda Abraham will show you how to:

[list][*]Create an eight-month application calendar with goals for each month

[/*][*]Cultivate a purpose-driven and goal-centered attitude towards your application

[/*][*]Understand your profile and how to strengthen it

[/*][*]Define your all-important post-MBA goals

[/*][*]Plan content for essays

[/*][*]Secure compelling recommendations[/*][/list]

This session is free, but seats are filling up fast. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to do some intentional and effective planning for your MBA application. [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/maximize-your-chances-of-acceptance?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_source=webinar&utm_medium=Maximize_Your_Chances_of_Acceptance_Feb_2022_p2]Register today![/url]

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For 25 years, Accepted has helped business school applicants gain acceptance to top programs. Our outstanding team of MBA admissions consultants features former business school admissions directors and professional writers who have guided our clients to admission at top MBA, EMBA, and other graduate business programs worldwide including Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Booth, INSEAD, London Business School, and many more. [url=https://www.accepted.com/mba/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=blog_bio_mba&utm_source=blog][b]Want an MBA admissions expert [/b][b]to help you get Accepted? Click here to get in touch![/b][/url]
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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Develop Your 2022 MBA Strategy NOW



Our free, one-hour webinar, How to Maximize Your Chances of Acceptance (and Reduce Your Stress!) Before the 2022 MBA Application Season, is airing live on Wednesday, February 16, and you can still register to join us! 

No, it isn’t too early to start this process! Competition for top programs is intense–even the smallest misstep can derail your application, leading to disappointment for you. This webinar offers an invaluable blueprint for approaching your applications using the calendar as your guide, ensuring enough time for every vital step of the way. You’ll learn when to begin each step along the path to creating an outstanding MBA application package that will boost your chances for acceptance. 

With professional guidance from Accepted founder and CEO Linda Abraham, one of the nation’s leading MBA consultants, your application is sure to catch the adcom’s attention. Investing in just one hour to join us will help you boost your chances of being ACCEPTED! What a great ROI!

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: How to Get Accepted to Oxford Saïd Business School
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Hannah Griffiths, Oxford Saïd Business School’s MBA Recruitment and Admissions Manager, shares how the school aims to equip leaders to effect change in various sectors all over the world. Additionally, Hannah highlights what it takes to get accepted. 

Interview with Hannah Griffiths, Oxford Saïd Business School’s MBA Recruitment and Admissions Manager [Show Notes]

Welcome to the 457th episode of Admissions Straight Talk. Thanks for tuning in. Before we get to our wonderful guest, I’d like to invite you to join me for our next live MBA webinar. I will present “[url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/maximize-your-chances-of-acceptance]How to Maximize Your Chances of Acceptance and Reduce Your Stress Before the 2022 Application Season[/url],” and I’m going to present it tomorrow, February 16th. During the webinar, I’m going to give you a plan that can prepare you for a successful MBA application this fall. The presentation is free, but you do need to reserve your seat, and you can do so at [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/maximize-your-chances-of-acceptance]accepted.com/457webinar[/url].

It gives me great pleasure to have on Admissions Straight Talk for the first time [url=https://media.blubrry.com/admissions_straight_talk/p/www.accepted.com/hubfs/Podcast_audio_files/Podcast/457_Hannah-Griffiths_2022.mp3]Hannah Griffiths, MBA Recruitment and Admissions Manager[/url] for Saïd Business School at the University of Oxford. Hannah earned her Master’s in English from the University College Cork and shortly thereafter started working at Oxford in different roles and in different parts of the university. She’s been there for most of her professional career. Since November 2019, she has been the MBA Recruitment and Admissions Manager for Oxford Saïd.

Can you give us an overview of the Oxford Saïd MBA program for those listeners who aren’t that familiar with it, focusing on its more distinctive elements? [1:55]

Yes, absolutely. The Saïd Business School is a business school that is embedded within Oxford University. Our MBA program is a one-year MBA program, and given that the business school is embedded within a world-class university, that does impact the MBA experience in a number of different ways. One of those ways is that the students can expect in the one-year program a lot of academic rigor. Our program is an intensive one-year MBA. It aims to include everything that a candidate would maybe anticipate finding on a two-year program but packed into a 12-month period.

The main aim of the business school and of the MBA program is to prepare our students to be responsible business leaders and individuals who, as they move through their career in the future, are prepared to tackle world-scale problems, challenges, and to really see business as a vehicle to drive change, be that within the organizations that they work in, the sectors that they choose to work in, in their communities and sometimes on a larger scale in the countries that they choose to be based in.

In addition to academic rigor, another thing to highlight that students could anticipate finding on the Oxford MBA, [url=https://blog.accepted.com/writing-the-diversity-essay/]is an incredibly diverse cohort[/url]. Our student body is largely international. Our current class is 94% international, with 71 different nationalities represented across the class. Diversity of thought is something that’s very important to us at the Oxford MBA as well. We have a very broad range of different sector backgrounds represented in our cohort. That also means that students can expect a diverse range of career outcomes and also a global alumni network that will be very far-reaching in depth and breadth as well.

And obviously access to the greater Oxford community network, correct? [4:00]

Yes, absolutely, which largely comes from their college membership while they’re with us in Oxford. But in terms of that alumni network, absolutely. They gain the benefit of having a network that they will have via the business school and then obviously another network that comes via the university as well.

One of the concerns with a one-year program is that maybe there won’t be an opportunity for an internship. It’s harder to make career changes. How would you address that concern? [4:26]

Really good question and as I said at the beginning, the Oxford MBA is certainly not for the faint-hearted in that it does aim to kind of pack all of those different components into the 12 months that students are with us. We do have the option for students to do an internship when they are on the Oxford MBA. That comes in the summer semester of the program and where the students do have a bit of flexibility in choosing what they would like to spend that final semester on. Some students choose to do some additional electives at that point and to stay with us at Oxford, kind of gain the last couple of months of opportunity to benefit from being part of the wider university. But a good percentage of our students do choose to do an internship at that point, usually about 30 to 40% of the cohort.

There’s also the option for students to do a strategic consultancy project at that point in the MBA as well. For any students who are looking to maybe pivot into consulting after the MBA, that’s a good opportunity for them to gain some practical, hands-on experience in that space as well. We find that a large percentage of our cohort does pivot after the program. I don’t have a precise figure for the cohort that just graduated, but it usually tends to be about 65% of the class that will pivot their career after the MBA, with 35% either accelerating or returning to the company that they were part of before they joined us.

At this point, do people have any trouble going back to their home country? You said it’s 94% international at Oxford. What about those who want to stay in the UK? Is the UK open to students staying for a couple of years? [6:02]

I should have said in relation to the internship, that’s not tied to the UK solely. We do have students who will go international for their internship opportunities if there is a particular market that they’re keen to move to post-MBA. In terms of the opportunity to remain in the UK once they have completed the program, that is something that’s popular with our students. So ordinarily, about 50% of our cohort will remain in Europe after the MBA, not specifically in the UK, but we do envision that the percentage that opts to remain in the UK will increase in the coming years, mainly due to the introduction of a new two-year post-study work visa that the UK government has recently introduced.

Since the summer just passed, our MBA students have access to apply for that visa, and it means that they can work in the UK for two years after they graduate from a program without needing company sponsorship to do so. It’s a great opportunity for MBA students as a lot of them want to gain a couple of years of international exposure after they complete their MBA, and for employers as well because it means they have the chance to have someone be part of their organization for a couple of years, make sure they’re the right fit, and then potentially go on to sponsor them, if they see a role for that person within the organization long-term. It’s a really, really great opportunity for any MBA students who are keen to have the opportunity to stay in the UK after their MBA.

You mentioned the college system at Oxford. That’s very different. Can you describe it? [7:44]

It’s a really, really good question and definitely something that is unique to a small number of universities that offer MBAs. For anybody who’s not familiar with Oxford university, it’s essentially just set up or made up of academic departments and colleges. So for students who join us on the MBA, the academic department that they belong to is the Saïd Business School, and then in addition to their membership of the business school, they have the opportunity to become a member of one of Oxford university’s 39 colleges.

The college benefits the experience in a number of different ways and is definitely a unique layer that’s added onto the MBA experience at Oxford. The main thing that it provides students with is access to an additional network, not just a network of different people who they’ll meet on the MBA, but people who are studying across a broad range of different subjects, essentially. Students find when they are at their college that if they attend a dinner or a lunch there, for example, they’ll sometimes be sitting opposite somebody who’s getting a PhD in astrophysics and beside somebody who is studying philosophy as an undergraduate. That opportunity to really broaden their horizons, to gain insights, have conversations with people from different backgrounds, focusing on different areas is something that really adds to their MBA experience. It adds a very traditional Oxfordian element to the year that they’re in Oxford.

Anybody who has Googled Oxford and is familiar with those images of those historic beautiful college buildings will have an idea of what it’s like. Or if you’ve seen Harry Potter and are familiar with the famous dining hall scene. The college offers the opportunity to participate in that. Our MBA students will attend formal dinners at their colleges in those dining halls. They’ll have middle common rooms, where they’ll be able to meet and socialize with other students who are members of their college. They absolutely have access to sports and societies as well. So MBA students will frequently play sports for their college or join clubs and societies at their college as well.

It gives them access to things like the Oxford Union, the world-famous debating society that is part of the university. A lot of MBA students get very actively involved in that for the year that they’re with us. I think the Oxford brand and the college allows us to attract speakers, guests from across the world that maybe students wouldn’t have access to until they come to somewhere like Oxford. I’ve had conversations with MBA students before who have mentioned that they have gone to a talk at their college or at the Oxford Union and have met the president of the country that they’ve come from. That’s not something that they would ever have had the opportunity to do in their home country, but somehow coming to Oxford has given them that opportunity as well. It really adds in that regard, and then obviously from a practical perspective as well, a lot of our students will source their accommodation, et cetera, via their college. They won’t live on the college campus, because that’s largely kept for undergraduate students, but their college will have accommodation options dotted around the city, and a large percentage of MBA students will access that.

Are the colleges defined by a specific interest? Are they randomly assigned? Is it an affinity of some kind? [11:15]

That’s something that MBA students will frequently ask as well because once you are admitted onto the MBA, you do have the opportunity to apply to become a member of a particular college, which a lot of students enjoy researching and deciding on. There are very, very small differences between them. I would say students will sometimes choose based on very practical reasons. The colleges will vary in terms of the number of MBA students that they admit, for example. So some of our students will want to become part of a college where they know that there’ll be a large number of MBA students. Other students want to be part of a college where they’ll have the opportunity to really expand their network and will go somewhere where there are hardly any MBA students. Sports is a big driver in terms of selecting colleges. So all colleges will have sports teams, but some colleges will maybe have a better reputation than others for performing well in certain sports.

There’ll be aspects like that as well. A lot of students will look to alumni. So they’ll look at maybe famous people who have come through different colleges over the years, and the university obviously has quite an exciting, extensive range of alumni that it can boast to have. If you think of somewhere like Christchurch College, for example, that’s where Lewis Carroll was a lecturer and is apparently where he came up with the storyline for Alice in Wonderland. There’s all of that history and tradition, and all of the colleges will have their own unique stories that they can tell. So students will be attracted to different aspects of that.

It’s a really exciting part of the MBA journey at Oxford. Once you are admitted to the program, the next step then is researching the colleges and deciding which one you might want to apply to and then starting to look at how that can add to your MBA experience.

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One of the trends in US MBA admissions is test optionality and test waivers. Any plan to go in that direction at Oxford Saïd? [30:12]

No, not that I’m aware of. I would think for us at Saïd, we would probably be impacted in making a change like that by being part of the wider university. Students are applying to us at the business school, but they are applying to a program of the university and there are some requirements that we would have to probably apply to the university if we wanted to change them, which could be quite a tricky process. We would be slightly limited that way, but I don’t think there’s an appetite for that at the business school, to be honest. I think for us, the GMAT and GRE scores are an important indication of a candidate’s ability in relation to being able to participate in the program.

Because we review applications holistically, we have a very broad range of scores represented across the cohort so I don’t think that there’s a need for us to eliminate the tests. We have students who apply to the program where you can’t actually even take the GMAT in the country that they currently live in so we do review the scores with a regional lens from that perspective and take that into account when we’re reviewing applications. For us, there’s no sense that a GMAT or a GRE score really impedes a candidate from being considered for a place on the program, and so as a result we don’t really have an appetite to get rid of the scores.

What would you say to applicants who want to apply this year? They’d love to start with the next cohort, but they’re concerned about applying late. [31:55]

Our stage three deadline is passed so candidates can no longer apply in that stage but we have one stage remaining. I would say if you are somebody who is tied to starting your MBA in September 2022 for either personal or professional reasons, [url=https://blog.accepted.com/should-you-apply-to-b-school-round-3-or-next-year-2/]then I would absolutely encourage you to apply in stage four[/url]. I understand people’s hesitancy around that. It is a more competitive application stage than some of the earlier stages, and there is a smaller amount of scholarship and funding opportunity for candidates who apply at that stage in the process.

However, candidates who have strong applications for the program will be admitted regardless of the stage that they apply. There will be spaces available, and if you are somebody who has a strong application ready to go and you are committed to starting your MBA in September 2022, then I would absolutely encourage you, by all means, to go for stage four. If you are somebody who isn’t tied to a September 2022 start and you have the option to start in September 2023 and there are no cons to doing so, then there are obviously advantages to applying in the earlier stages of the next application cycle. But certainly, if that’s not an option for you and you’re ready to go in terms of having your application already ready at this point, then we would absolutely encourage you to apply in stage four.

Okay, great. What advice would you give someone thinking of a fall 2022 or later application? [33:45]

I would say start planning early. Particularly if you are somebody who is coming to maybe the GMAT or GRE as a fresh starter, you don’t have a score already, make sure that you give yourself enough time to prepare for those tests. We recommend usually about three months, if you’re starting from scratch, to do prep to give yourself a chance to come through with a competitive score. You also maybe want to give yourself a window to potentially take the test again in advance of the stage deadline. We often find candidates are scoring quite well on practice tests, but then when they come to sit for real, for whatever reason, their score drops a little bit. Giving yourself that window of opportunity to maybe sit again can be good in advance of an application, and that’s certainly not something that’s frowned upon. I think sometimes candidates worry that it looks bad if they take the GMAT or GRE a number of times. It’s absolutely the opposite. It shows a level of perseverance and dedication to wanting to put your best foot forward in terms of an MBA application. That’s absolutely not viewed negatively by the committee at Saïd in any regard. So planning in terms of your GMAT, GRE.

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I would also say planning in terms of funding is important. There are a large number of scholarship opportunities available at Oxford, but I think it’s good for candidates even in that early stage to start thinking about how they’re going to finance their MBA and if they are somebody who’s admitted to the program who’s not successful in securing a scholarship that they’re aware maybe of what their options are in terms of other funding opportunities. It’s good to do that research in advance of your application as well.

[url=https://blog.accepted.com/which-mba-program-is-right-for-me-the-ultimate-guide-to-choosing-an-mba-program/]Research, in general[/url], is important. Certainly do your research around the business school with a view to working out if you feel it’s the right place for you, but don’t let that research impact your application too much. Don’t try to shoehorn yourself into the type of candidate that you think we’re looking for based on that research. Use it as a guide for you to make sure that you think Saïd is a place that you would fit and a place that you would benefit from the program. But then, as I said earlier, just aim to be yourself through the application.

What would you have liked me to ask you? [36:08]

Oh, that’s a good question. Interestingly, I would say that something that candidates often want to ask us about or maybe that we don’t address in terms of the events that we run are rankings.

I know it’s something that is really important to candidates when they are researching MBA programs. As I said earlier, we know that candidates are looking at a number of different schools, and ranking obviously plays a part in terms of the schools that they are looking at. We do sometimes have candidates who will reach out to us and say, “The business school looks great. The MBA looks great. But [url=https://blog.accepted.com/busting-2-mba-myths/]your ranking is lower than some of the other schools that I’m looking at[/url].” For us, it’s an area that we should talk about a bit more in terms of why the school ranks where it does and our feelings around that, which I think are largely based around what the school is all about and what we’re trying to do with the MBA program. As I said, we’re trying to create responsible business leaders who are going to go on and take on world-scale challenges as they move across their careers in the future. The diversity that we have in our cohort leads obviously to diversity in terms of career choices in the future as well, and that leads to a diversity of salaries maybe that other business schools don’t have. For people who aren’t aware, salaries play a big part in terms of business school ranking, which is something that impacts Saïd quite strongly. I think because we feel very strongly about what we’re trying to do with our MBA program and about the skills and the ideas that we’re trying to instill in our students, we embrace that diversity and what we’re trying to do over a higher ranking, which we could probably go for if we really wanted to. The school ranks well in a number of areas that are really important to us.

One of the things that I haven’t touched on is gender diversity in our MBA cohort. Saïd always ranks really high in terms of the female representation that you’ll find on our MBA. 44% of our current class is female. 47% of our last cohort was female, and we’re pushing all the time to move towards 50% representation in our MBA class. We’ll always rank really high in rankings in that regard. We always rank really well as well in terms of achieving aims. Students who come to our program score the school really highly in that regard as well. Those are things that we maybe value a little bit more.

That’s something that candidates would probably not have expected me to say is something that I would’ve liked to have been asked about, but I do think it’s an important part of the conversation, because it is something that candidates will look at when they’re thinking about applying to a school, and it’s good maybe to give them a sense of why Saïd doesn’t rank as highly as maybe they would be anticipating it to.

Where can listeners and potential applicants learn more about Oxford Saïd’s full-time MBA program? [39:53]

[url=https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/programmes/mbas]Our website[/url] is probably the best place for students to go. You can download our brochure there. We also have an events page on our website that we would really recommend prospective candidates look at. We run a number of different virtual events across the year that we would absolutely love for people to join if they are interested in learning a bit more about the program, and then obviously very happy to have any listeners reach out to me via LinkedIn as well if they are interested in learning more about the Oxford MBA.

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Financial Times Ranks Wharton as #1 in 2022 Rankings
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The [url=https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/2866/mba-2022]Financial Times[/url] has released its global rankings of the best MBA programs and has considerably shuffled the deck. Several top-ranked programs fell several notches, while others rose considerably. For the first time since 2011, Wharton has returned to its status as #1 in FT’s list.

Other programs that made giant strides in the rankings include Columbia Business School (ranked 8th in 2020), and [url=https://blog.accepted.com/kellogg-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Kellogg (Northwestern)[/url], now #5 (11th place in 2020). One reason for such huge fluctuations was that five of the top U.S. programs ([url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/harvard-business-school?hsLang=en]Harvard[/url], [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/stanford-graduate-school-of-business]Stanford[/url], [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/get-accepted-to-wharton?hsLang=en]Wharton[/url], [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/mit-ama]MIT[/url], and [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/get-accepted-to-columbia-business-school]Columbia[/url]) were not listed at all last year at all, skewing that year’s results.

Other highly rated programs that suffered serious tumbles in the rankings include [url=https://blog.accepted.com/london-business-school-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]London Business School[/url], [url=https://blog.accepted.com/how-to-get-an-mba-from-dartmouth-tuck-episode-430/]Tuck (Dartmouth)[/url], and [url=https://blog.accepted.com/uva-darden-executive-mba-essay-tips-and-deadlines/]UVA Darden[/url]. In fact, 69 of the 91 schools ranked fell in the rankings, many of them by double digits.

Compared with last year, many of these schools’ rankings looked like riders on a roller coaster, with some plunging far below and others rising by as much as 20 points to unprecedented heights. 

As we have cautioned before, [url=https://blog.accepted.com/do-mba-rankings-matter/]it’s vital to keep these rankings in perspective[/url]. They are based on many variables that have little or nothing to do with the quality of the curricula per se.

2022 RankSchool2021 RankY-O-Y Change

1[url=https://blog.accepted.com/wharton-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]UPenn Wharton[/url]N/AN/A

2[url=https://blog.accepted.com/columbia-business-school-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Columbia[/url]N/AN/A

3[url=https://blog.accepted.com/what-prospective-mbas-need-to-know-about-applying-to-insead-episode-417/]INSEAD[/url]1-2

3[url=https://blog.accepted.com/harvard-business-school-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/] Harvard[/url]N/AN/A

5[url=https://blog.accepted.com/kellogg-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Northwestern Kellogg[/url]6-1

6[url=https://blog.accepted.com/stanford-gsb-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Stanford GSB[/url]N/AN/A

7[url=https://blog.accepted.com/chicago-booth-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Chicago Booth[/url]3-4

8[url=https://blog.accepted.com/london-business-school-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]London Business School[/url]2-6

9[url=https://blog.accepted.com/yale-som-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Yale SOM[/url]4-5

10IESE4-6

11HEC Paris7-4

11[url=https://blog.accepted.com/mit-sloan-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]MIT Sloan[/url]N/AN/A

13SDA Bocconi SOM12-1

14[url=https://blog.accepted.com/nyu-stern-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]NYU Stern[/url]13-1

14[url=https://blog.accepted.com/uc-berkeley-haas-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]UC-Berkeley Haas[/url]N/AN/A

16CEIBS7-9

17[url=https://blog.accepted.com/cornell-sc-johnson-college-of-business-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Cornell Johnson[/url]15-2

18[url=https://blog.accepted.com/dartmouth-tuck-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Dartmouth Tuck[/url]10-8

19[url=https://blog.accepted.com/duke-fuqua-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Duke Fuqua[/url]9-10

20[url=https://blog.accepted.com/uva-darden-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]UVA Darden[/url]11-9

21Nat’l Univ. of Singapore14-7

22[url=https://blog.accepted.com/cambridge-judge-mba-application-tips-deadlines/]Cambridge Judge[/url]16-6

23[url=https://blog.accepted.com/cmu-tepper-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]CMU Tepper[/url]27+4

24[url=https://blog.accepted.com/michigan-ross-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Michigan Ross[/url]21-3

25USC Marshall24-1

26[url=https://blog.accepted.com/ucla-anderson-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]UCLA Anderson[/url]N/AN/A

27[url=https://blog.accepted.com/georgetown-mcdonough-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Georgetown McDonough[/url]17-10

28IMD19-9

29WU Olin25-4

30[url=https://blog.accepted.com/university-of-washington-foster-school-of-business-essay-tips-and-deadlines/]UW Foster[/url]28-2

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You’ve got your first draft ready – this is a great milestone! Now it’s time to revise and edit. Outstanding essays are not sprung into the world on the first draft. Here’s how to [url=https://www.accepted.com/grad/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=ex2ex_revise_polish_your_essays&utm_source=article]edit and polish until your essay shines[/url]:

[b]1. Let your essay rest for a day or two[/b], particularly after an intensive writing session. You’ll return to your writing with fresh eyes and undoubtedly see ways to strengthen it immediately. One of the most common problems plaguing application essays is bland, forgettable prose. As you look at your essay again, look for and root out [url=https://blog.accepted.com/generic-itis-prevention/]generic writing[/url], such as in the following sentence:

“Although I have been responsible for a lot of exciting projects, I want to move into management, which may not happen on my current path.”

What kind of projects? What made them exciting? Why wouldn’t a management path be open to the writer? Has this been explained? Let’s resuscitate this prose by adding appropriate [b]details[/b].

“My role as a product manager for a mid-sized giftware business has allowed me to develop my creativity as well as communication and market research skills. As exciting as it has been to have helped plan and release our innovative kitchen giftware, whose designs are based on famous Impressionist paintings, I want to move more into management, which seems unlikely at this family-owned and managed company.”

Adding details takes more room but it makes your essay come alive. It is so important, in fact, that it’s better to write about fewer examples but flesh each out in greater detail than to write a laundry list of vague accomplishments or character traits you feel you possess. “[url=https://blog.accepted.com/showing-strengths-in-application-essays/]Show, don’t tell[/url],” remains a cardinal rule in writing.

[b]2. Ditch the passive voice[/b] – this will further enliven and tighten your writing.

“Negotiations over the extent of the website design were carried out by a team of managers and myself, representing the technical team.”

This passive construction is draggy. Move the “doer” of the action to the head of the sentence for a resulting sentence that makes you sound like a leader (and is five words shorter):

“I represented the technical team in negotiations with management over the extent of the website design.”

[b]3.[/b] [b]Read your essay aloud.[/b] When you listen to your essay, you’ll likely catch small mistakes that you inadvertently missed during the editing process and that you may also easily miss when reading silently. Reading aloud, you will also hear which sentences can benefit from some tightening, expanding, or other improvements. 

[b]4.[/b] [b]Assess for overall quality control.[/b] Has your essay achieved the goal you set out for it? Do you sound like the irresistibly focused, thoughtful, and energetic individual you want to sound like? Make sure that the voice you created on the page resonates positively.

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Get Accepted to UW’s Foster School of Business
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All you need to know about UW’s Foster MBA program [Show Summary]

Amber Janke, Director of MBA Recruitment and Admissions at Foster School of Business shares everything potential applicants should know about the collaborative MBA program.

Amber Janke, Director of MBA Recruitment and Admissions at Foster School of Business talks about how to get accepted [Show Notes]

Welcome to the 461st episode of Admissions Straight Talk. Thanks for listening. You’ve seen the stats that most people have a great return on their MBA investment, but what about you individually? Are you going to see that return? How much is it likely to be? We created a tool that will help you assess whether the MBA is likely to be a good investment for you individually. Just go to [url=https://www.accepted.com/mba/roi-calculator]www.accepted.com/mbaroicalc[/url], complete the brief questionnaire, and you’ll not only get an assessment but also the opportunity to calculate different scenarios. 

It gives me great pleasure to have [url=https://media.blubrry.com/admissions_straight_talk/p/www.accepted.com/hubfs/Podcast_audio_files/Podcast/461_Amber-Janke_2022.mp3]for the first time on Admissions Straight Talk, Amber Janke[/url]. Amber earned her BA at Chapman University and then went to NYU, where she earned her MA in Higher Education Administration and Student Affairs. She also started her career in higher ed as the Assistant Director of Admissions at NYU. She moved to Foster as Associate Director of MBA Recruitment and Admissions in 2016, and became the Director of MBA Recruitment and Admissions for Foster School of Business in 2019. 

Can you give a basic overview of the Full-time MBA Program at Foster for listeners who may not be that familiar with it? [2:24]

Absolutely. We have your classic two-year [url=https://blog.accepted.com/university-of-washington-foster-school-of-business-essay-tips-and-deadlines/]Full-time MBA Program here at the Foster School[/url]. The first year is very focused on a strong MBA foundation. It’s focused on leadership, teamwork, and we’re very big on hands-on experiential learning here at Foster. You get that in the first-year curriculum. In the second year, our students get to choose the elective courses that best suit their career goals. We don’t have specific concentrations or areas of studies that students are required to choose. Instead, they really get to customize their degree in a way that makes sense for their career goals.

Do students graduate with a concentration? [3:09]

They don’t graduate with a concentration, they graduate with an MBA, but we really encourage them to share the things that they’ve learned and worked on, on their resumes. 

Is the first year lockstep, where students are with the same cohort? [3:27]

Yes, we are a lockstep program. We’re a pretty small cohort. We typically have no more than about 125-130 students. We’re very focused on community and culture here at Foster. Our students are very big on helping each other achieve their goals. Our students are very driven and want to make a positive impact on the world, but they also want to help others do the same and it’s something that I think is pretty special here at the Foster School.

What don’t people know about Foster that you would want them to know? Is there a myth out there about Foster that you would like to dispel? [4:04]

I think there is an impression, and there is some truth to it, that there is a lot of interest and placement in technology, post-MBA here at Foster. We certainly have the benefit of having many technology companies right in our backyard. Our students are interested in that, but we also have really strong placement in marketing, consulting, and finance as well. That’s one thing that I think sometimes people are a little bit surprised about. While we have a lot of students who pursue careers at those companies post-MBA here in Washington, we also have students that are working across the US as well. We have an expansion across the US.

Where do most of your grads go outside of Seattle? [4:59]

California, Chicago, New York City. We’ve seen more placement in other areas in the country as well.

Does Foster have any plans to consider the Executive Assessment Exam? [5:37]

That’s a good question. I know I’m here to talk about the Full-time MBA Program today, but we also have an evening MBA program, which is based on our Full-time MBA Program. It’s a very similar experience, they also get access to the same career resources as our Full-time MBA Program. We are currently accepting the Executive Assessment for our evening program. We are going to see how that goes and we might consider it for full-time in the future but right now the Full-time MBA Program doesn’t accept the Executive Assessment.

Who would you advise to apply without a test score? [6:12]

We have a [url=https://foster.uw.edu/academics/degree-programs/full-time-mba/admissions/faq/]long FAQ[/url] on our website, which I encourage people to go take a look at but I’ll try to summarize a bit of it today. We think there is some value in the GRE and the GMAT, and that’s why we still encourage people to take it. We also understand that people may come from experiences or backgrounds that already show that proficiency and the exam might not be as helpful to them. Or that people may have had trouble accessing the exam, especially with COVID these past two years.

We wanted to create a pathway and an opportunity for people to show quantitative and analytical readiness outside of an exam. We ask our applicants to answer two questions in the application if they’re choosing to apply Test-Optional. One is, “How have you shown readiness through your prior academic experience?” The second is, “How have you shown quantum analytical readiness through your professional experience?”

Then we review the application based on the information that is provided to us. It really is a personal decision. It’s different than a waiver because I know a lot of schools are doing waivers. Instead of the school making the decision for the applicant, the applicant is making the decision on how they can best present their application. We felt like that was important. They know their background and their skills and their candidacy best, and so we want them to be able to have the opportunity to provide that information to us.

We also have admissions counselors who are happy to meet one-on-one if applicants are trying to decide, “[url=https://blog.accepted.com/should-you-take-the-gre-or-gmat-for-test-optional-mba-programs/]Am I a good fit to apply Test-Optional?[/url]” You can absolutely schedule a time to meet one-on-one with us as well. This is our first year doing Test-Optional so we are definitely learning, and we are committed to doing this for at least two years here at Foster. We’ll see how that goes in the future.

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Can you give us some insight into what happens to an application after the applicant hits submit? How are the applications processed and evaluated to determine who actually receives an interview invitation? [10:45]

I will add, just to back up for a moment and share a little bit more about what we’re looking for. We are also looking for our students to learn from one another. We expect students to come in with some level of expertise or knowledge or experience that they’re going to contribute to the cohort certainly. That is something that we consider when we’re looking at applications.

As I mentioned, we have that holistic review. Once people hit Submit, there are a couple of things that happen. One is, once they hit submit, they’ll receive a follow-up from us and they’ll be invited to do the video admissions interview. Everyone is invited to do that video interview. People are asked two questions as part of that. It is really meant to get to know applicants a little bit more to see how they think on their feet. Once we receive that video interview submission, our admissions committee sits down and starts to review applications holistically. We’re looking at every aspect of their application and determining who is competitive to move forward to interview. 

It’s tough because we receive a lot of applications, and we cannot move everyone forward to an admissions interview. It just isn’t possible with the number of hours in the day. It is a competitive pool, and so we are really looking for people who demonstrate academic readiness, who show readiness in terms of their career, you don’t have to be a leader yet, but [url=https://reports.accepted.com/guide/leadership-in-admissions-2]you want to show leadership potential[/url]. Looking at other aspects, have you done your research into the program? What can you share with us about it? Not just why you want an MBA, but why you want an MBA from Foster. Once you’re invited to interview, there are some other steps in the process as well.

What’s the purpose of the video essay? [12:46]

It’s really just to allow the admissions committee to see how people think on their feet and allows people to share a little bit about themselves personally. There are no trick questions as part of the video interviews. There are questions about people’s experiences, but just so that we can get a sense of the applicant outside of their written application. It’s a chance for us to learn a little bit more about how they communicate and who they are.

What can applicants expect if they’re lucky enough to get invited for an interview? [13:32]

I will say our admissions team loves doing interviews. We do something that’s a little different than some other programs, in that it is the core full-time admissions team that is doing the interviews. We don’t have students doing interviews. We don’t have alumni doing interviews. We have the admissions committee doing the interviews. 

It’s one-on-one, though some of our other programs at Foster have more of a team aspect, which is fun, but for the Full-time MBA Program, it is a one-on-one interview really meant to learn more about you. Candidates should approach it as a job interview, but expect some questions that are going to be a little bit different than you might receive in a job interview. Of course, we’re wanting to learn more about their [url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/guide/why-mba]MBA goals[/url], what they’re looking for in an MBA Program, etc.

There are no trick questions. I always tell applicants when they’re nervous that this is about them. They’re an expert in themselves. They should already be ready to answer the questions. And really, we’re looking for that potential to join the program in the admissions interview.

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What’s the most common mistake you see applicants make in the application process? [15:21]

I have a couple that I want to share. One is not being authentic in your application. I think sometimes people believe that the admissions committee wants to hear just one thing or a certain thing. Really what we’re trying to do is [url=https://blog.accepted.com/admissions-tip/]get to know each individual applicant authentically[/url]. We want to know who you are. We want to know what your goals and dreams are, we want to know who you truly are and what your experiences have been. Time and time again, I’ll talk with an applicant for an info interview and they say, “Well, my friends are telling me I shouldn’t share this very lofty goal.” And I tell them, “Well, you should think about what you really want to achieve. Certainly have a Plan B, but if that’s really what you want to achieve, you’re going to want to share that as part of your application.” That is one thing, people feeling as though they can’t be authentic in their application and I would encourage you to do so because if you aren’t authentic, we’ll be able to see that in an interview. So that’s really important.

The second is just not doing research on the program ahead of time. We know you want an MBA, but why do you want a Foster MBA? We’re a small program. We can help you achieve certain things. We want to know that people really want to be part of this type of program, but you’ve got to do the research on your end as well. It’s not just about the MBA. It’s about what you are looking for in an MBA experience, and doing some of the [url=https://blog.accepted.com/focus-fit-episode-162/]research ahead of time to learn if you think a program might be a right fit for you[/url]. You don’t have to have it all figured it out yet, that’s part of the MBA application process. But start to do some of the work on your end to really understand not just why you want an MBA, but why you want an MBA from Foster or maybe another program.

I sometimes talk to applicants who will say they want to work for Microsoft or Amazon or some other company. Does that lead you to believe why they want it? Would your response be that’s a good reason or would you be looking for more details? [17:30]

Certainly, those are part of people’s goals and they might have certain companies or roles in mind, but an MBA program is not just about what you do immediately post-MBA. It’s about what the experience is for the two years that you’re here. It’s about what you want to gain, how you want to learn, want to grow for five years, 10 years down the line. You might not have a sense of exactly where that journey is going to take you, but I think having that sense of understanding what a program can help you achieve and what you’re going to be able to contribute and learn from a program is really helpful too. My piece of advice that I always give applicants, and I definitely have borrowed this from one of our assistant deans who has since retired, is that you want to find a program where you can thrive.

That’s what I really see for our students here at Foster. We want students who are going to come here to make an impact, and really be able to take advantage of all those opportunities now and later, because that’s something that we see as a true benefit to our community. It’s not just about what’s happening with our students now. It’s our alums who come back, it’s what’s happening in the greater Seattle community, or the greater business community, where we see our students making an impact. I think that’s really important.

What surprises your students most when they start at Foster? [19:32]

We really are trying to do our best to make sure that people have all the information as they prepare for the program, and really understand everything before they come to Foster. 

I think something that may be surprising is that the collaboration is not just lip service. We truly are a very collaborative community here at Foster. I actually received a note from one of our current first-year students who said, “I knew that Foster was a place where I wanted to be, and I knew that the community was really important, but I didn’t anticipate how my classmates would be so helpful.” I think people understand it in theory and in concept, but when you see it in practice in the classroom that may be a little bit of a surprise. I don’t know if that’s unique to Foster as much as how instrumental an MBA experience can be, but certainly, it’s something that we are very focused on here at Foster.

This question is from an international student: How do you consider international students who apply to universities and cannot pay at least 5% to 10% of the fees? Do you get irritated? [21:07]

No, not at all. We’re not irritated. Seattle is a global city. Our MBA program is a global program. We want international students. [url=https://blog.accepted.com/different-dimensions-diversity-episode-193/]We want different voices[/url], different experiences in our classroom. We know that people are coming from all different sorts of backgrounds. Everyone who applies to the Foster MBA Program is automatically considered for scholarship. That is something that we consider. We have been fortunate to receive some more scholarship funding in recent years so while not every single student receives a scholarship, a significant amount of students do, and if we’re able to offer in-state tuition, we do try to do that as part of a scholarship package.

What advice do you have for applicants applying this cycle, and who are denied and they want to reapply? [22:06]

We always encourage reapplicants to reach out to us over the summer. We say this in our email as well, but you can set up a time to meet with an admissions counselor one-on-one. We’re not going to be able to give you specific feedback on your application, but we can talk to you about what you think you can do better, how to address reapplying and how you can really show your best self in the application.

Every year we admit somebody who’s a reapplicant. I just want to encourage people that just because this year didn’t work out, doesn’t mean next year won’t work out. It can be dependent on the applicant pool. Maybe an additional year of work experience is really going to give you some valuable experiences that you didn’t even realize were going to be helpful for your application the next year. [url=https://blog.accepted.com/reapplying-to-business-school-how-to-do-it-right-the-second-time-around/]I encourage you to reapply[/url] and to reach out to us if you plan to do so.

Should wait-listed applicants provide you with updates when they have something to say? [23:38]

Yes. We actually tried to demystify this a couple of years ago because we realized we weren’t explicitly telling people, “Yes, you can follow up with us with the updates.” So now it is stated in our waitlist notification that they can absolutely reach out to us. 

What advice would you give to someone thinking ahead to a fall 2022 or later application? [24:14]

I would say it’s never too early to reach out and start getting to know the Foster School. We are just starting to open up to in-person events on campus, which we’re very excited about. Washington state is starting to open up some restrictions so we’re hopeful that in the spring, we’ll start to offer a couple of in-person events. Then as we roll into summer and the fall, we hope to bring back more of the events that we’ve had in person.

Though of course, I think you’ve probably heard this from other schools as well, virtual has given a lot of access. Our virtual events have given a lot of access to folks, but we would like to be able to bring people back on campus. Our students are on campus, but we just haven’t been able to open it up to guests yet. I hope that we’re going to be able to do so shortly. We have an event for our part-time MBA program coming up next week so we’re super excited to see how that goes and then moving forward, we hope to open up more.

Is there anything you would’ve liked me to ask you? [25:30]

That’s a good question. I think one thing that I didn’t touch upon is just about how amazing our faculty here at Foster is. Our faculty are doing really amazing research in their fields, but they’re also amazing teachers, they know our students on a first-name basis, and they’re invested in their success. When I talk about that student community that is invested in one another, the faculty and the staff are a part of that too. I think that being part of a small community like that – where faculty knows your name or they invite you over to dinner – that’s a pretty amazing experience for students.

Where can listeners and potential applicants learn more about UW Foster’s Full-time MBA Program? [26:22]

They can go to [url=https://foster.uw.edu]foster.uw.edu[/url], and you can visit us on our Full-time MBA site.

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Trevor’s Journey from Hawaii High School Teacher to University of Arizona Full-Time MBA Student



Learn how real students and recent grads have navigated their way through the business school admissions process and b-school itself with our What is Business School Really Like? series.

Meet Trevor, a full-time MBA student at U. of Arizona. Trevor’s journey to his MBA speaks to his personal values of Respect, Honesty, Diligence, and Aloha.

Trevor, thank you for sharing your story with us!

Let’s start at the beginning… Where did you go to undergrad and what did you major in?

Trevor: I completed my undergrad at the University of Hawaii at Manoa for my Bachelor’s in Secondary Education-English Language Arts and my Master’s in Educational Foundations.

As a school teacher, what was your inspiration or epiphany for deciding to pursue an MBA?

Trevor: My inspiration was twofold. First, I wanted to be able to build generational wealth so my family would not have to struggle like we did when I was a kid. As I looked 20 years on the horizon, my salary as a teacher would still be significantly less than many entry level tech roles. 

Second, I knew what I did in my classroom mattered—I absolutely loved teaching. Though, I knew I could inspire more kids by scaling my reach…I had no idea how I would do it (I still don’t!), but I took the leap anyway.

During the application process, you were also working full-time. What did that look like and how were you able to balance it all?

Trevor: Truth be told, I struggled balancing working 60 hours a week as a teacher/advisor with trying to study for the GMAT and work through the application process. Realistically, this looked like waking up at 4am to lesson plan, prep my classroom, grade papers, and work on student council advisor tasks and working till 5pm, then study and research till about 8 or 9pm…usually the first one in and last one out of work. Not a glamorous experience, but one that humbled me and prepared me for the rigorous MBA program!

Which “tools” – such as an app, technique, lifehack, website, guide, mantra, or advice  – got you through the application process and into your target school?

Trevor: Find your outlets. I had such an amazing group of support around me, and I could not be more grateful. From my boss bringing me food when she saw me working late to students surprising me with coffee to get through a tough day—your support system matters. 

I was never the academic with the best test scores (GMAT included!) or a student with natural talent, but I was always an “outwork anyone” kind of person. My advice would be to remember your “why” and keep that close to you as you embark on challenging endeavors. Every day I had the privilege of seeing my students work hard for their future, and I got to work alongside them on my own personal goals, too!

There are so many factors that go into accepting an offer at an MBA program! Which metrics did you use and what was most important to you?

Trevor: Let’s not pretend I got accepted into a Top 10 MBA program (because I did not!), but I did get accepted to a few great schools. I had no idea what I wanted to do after I graduate, which made the decision even more scary. I used two “metrics” to decide: 

  • Trust my Gut. I’ve done the research and ran the numbers, but at the end of the day, I had to trust my gut and commit.

  • Perspective Matters. Embarking on my MBA journey was equal parts career growth and personal growth. I was lost, afraid, and frustrated personally and professionally. I needed a place where I would develop both my business acumen, but also my personal self. My mentors and coaches at UA were the most valuable part of the program — I am so grateful for them! 

Let’s revisit the day you got your acceptance letter, we’re anxious to know how you celebrated.

Trevor: Senior Luau Night (like a Prom), but for my students in Hawaii we did it a bit different. We had Kolohe Kai (one of Hawaii’s biggest artists) standing by, and a hundred kids dressed in aloha attire ready for a night of fun. An event that my student council team worked on for 2 years. It’s Showtime! 

Then a random call from Tucson, Arizona comes in. With a fire extinguisher in one hand (fire knife dancers were on deck!), I answered the phone. I was excited, but this night wasn’t about an MBA. So, the “celebration” was seeing the kids enjoy a great night of food, fun, and good music and making sure the fire knife dancers didn’t burn the place down! 

Congratulations on completing your first year! What advice would you give the incoming freshman class starting an MBA program?

Trevor: In the MBA, it’s not about the grades you make, it’s about the hands you shake. Not my quote, but one that fits well! The most value I found was outside the classes. My career coaches, classmates, and alumni mentors were the best parts of the program. It’s easy to miss this, but the big picture matters. 

And finally, what advice would you give your younger self?

Trevor: “Slow down. Be grateful.”

I tell myself this every day and it makes a world of difference. 

If any of this resonated with you or if you have questions, please feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn! I love connecting and learning from new perspectives!

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Shortlisting and Visiting Business Schools



In deciding whether to apply to specific MBA programs, you need to understand how the schools differ. What are their relative strengths and weaknesses? It isn’t easy to get a real sense of what makes a school unique: they all claim top faculties, great student bodies, and professional networks that will sizzle when you graduate.

How can you tell the differences among these programs?

Follow these steps to do your research:

  • [b]Study their employment profile.[/b] See where graduates find jobs. Which schools send the most grads to the companies, industries, and locations you are most interested in?

  • Class profile. Do you want a large class or a small, close-knit class? Do you want an urban or rural setting? Do you really want to be in a class that draws over 70% of its students from engineering, business, and technical fields? Or would you prefer to be in a class where 46% came from the social sciences and humanities? Both MIT and Stanford provide outstanding MBA educations, but their class make-up is very different. Consider the elements and features of a given class and decide which environment will appeal to you most.

  • Curriculum. Would Harvard’s rigid first year curriculum, where everyone takes the same classes, chafe?  Or would you be lost with all the options at Chicago, which prides itself on its flexibility? Do you value the option of skipping prerequisites? Do you want a lot of teacher cooperation and integration of business functions, as is provided by Tuck or Yale?

  • Methodology. If you prefer a mix of methodologies, check out Wharton. If you like an emphasis on projects and hands-on learning, check out Ross. Do you want a strict case method? Take a closer look at HBS and Darden.

  • Clubs and extra-curriculars. Many schools have imitated MIT Sloan’s business plan competition. But not everyone has a social enterprise competition (HBS does). If you are interested in social enterprise, that competition may be particularly appealing.

    What are some of the unusual clubs at the different schools that would appeal to you? For example, almost every school will have a Marketing Club, but only some, like Columbia, will have a Luxury Goods Marketing Club. Take some time to notice the variety of active clubs at the programs you are considering.

  • Professor research. A school may have a professor or two who are magnets pulling you to that program, perhaps for their well respected research in a niche that appeals to you. Are there independent study opportunities (with these professors)? Do these profs teach MBA students? If so, what classes?

  • “Fit.” Then there is that almost indefinable quality called “fit.” This consists of several factors, including understanding your target school’s mission, values, and criteria; proving you can perform to their standards; sharing the school’s values and its mission; and showing that the program can help you achieve your career goals.

    To determine fit, visit the schools you are considering if at all possible. If a visit isn’t feasible, talk to current students, read MBA student blogs, and follow the student newspapers. Grasping points of difference will enable you to make more intelligent application and acceptance decisions.

If you can get to campus, here are some visiting-day tips to maximize your experience:

  •  If possible, visit when class is in session. Then take a tour, chat with students, and attend the info sessions. Take advantage of whatever is offered on campus to help you get a realistic feel for the environment.

  • Prepare for your visit by going through the school’s website thoroughly. It’s not a good look when you ask a question that is answered three times on the school’s site.

  • As you review the school website, write down any questions that you may have and take them with you.

  • If you can’t visit the school, attend receptions or info sessions that will be held in your city. Bring your written questions so you don’t forget any of them.

Visiting schools is only part of the planning and strategizing that you’ll need to do when applying to business school. Check out Accepted’s MBA Admissions Consulting Services for individual guidance through the entire application process. Visit schools. Create a winning application. Get ACCEPTED!




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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Elissa Sangster, CEO of the Forte Foundation, Returns for AST’s 10th Anniversary



A peek into what change the Forte Foundation is implementing [Show Summary]

In honor of Admissions Straight Talk’s 10th anniversary episode, our first ever guest is back. Elissa Sangster is the CEO of the Forte Foundation which is at the forefront of increasing female representation in the business world – from the classroom to the workforce. 

Interview with Elissa Sangster, CEO of the Forte Foundation [Show Notes]

Thanks for joining me for the 463rd episode of Admissions Straight Talk. I love hosting Admissions Straight Talk because of the fascinating guests I’m privileged to talk to. But today’s show is extra special. It marks Admissions Straight Talk’s 10th anniversary. The first show aired on March 29th, 2012, almost exactly 10 years ago. 

So, first I have to thank you, our listeners for tuning in and sharing your valuable time and attention with me and our guests. I also have to thank the guests who share their time, experience, and expertise with you and me during the interview. 

And one of the people I have to give extra thanks to today is our guest Elissa Sangster. Elissa was willing to be Admissions Straight Talk’s first guest when there was no track record, no stats to report, no download numbers. Today, I can talk to prospective guests about our 650,000 total downloads, but I couldn’t 10 years ago when Elissa first said yes. So thank you again, Elissa. That’s why this show is special to me. 

This show should be special to you because of Elissa’s critical role as head of the Forte Foundation, which has made enormous strides in increasing women’s representation in business school and business through her profound insider’s knowledge of the business school and professional world. Elissa earned her MBA at Texas A&M’s Mays Business School in 1994, and immediately became the Assistant Director of its MBA program. She moved to UT Austin in 1997, where she served in different roles, including the Assistant Dean and Director of McCombs’ MBA program. In 2004, she became the first Director of Forte Foundation, a consortium of business schools and companies working to increase the number of women in business leadership roles. She’s been successfully running and growing Forte Foundation ever since. 

Can you give a background on the Forte Foundation and its growth? [2:47]

Sure, absolutely. We started back in 2001 when there was a research study being done by Catalyst. A lot of business schools and companies were looking at women’s advancement into business school and into business leadership positions and corporations and there was grave concern about what was holding women back. So the research came out with a study that we then built into a business plan for an organization. That’s really where the launch of Forte began. That was in about 2001, and then in 2002, we held our first event which was a series of MBA forums. We had five of them in 2002 and really continued to grow. I came on board full-time in 2004 as the first full-time employee of the organization. As you said, that’s kind of been the history, and here we are today in 2022. We’re really excited to see where we go from here.

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What support does Forte provide to women once they get into business school and even after business school? [14:32]

The first important support is the Forte fellowships which are awarded every year since our first class in 2005. We had about 35 women in that first MBA fellow class. The agreement with our business schools is that these women would get around a $20,000 scholarship to support them going to school. If you fast forward to this past fall, the group that enrolled was about 2,000 women who received a very similar amount of support. They vary a little bit by schools, but that is a huge number compared to where we were back in 2005. That’s one of the most important support systems. 

They also get access to our MBA conference, which has been a flagship event for us for many years. This is a two-day program where they get to meet our core partners, the school partners are with us, they get professional development, they have a career fair, they learn more about different industries that MBAs go into, all of the different things that they need to be thinking about as they go into their MBA program. We’ve had that since 2004. 

We also have a Financial Service Fast Track that’s specifically focused on MBA women. That’s for anybody interested in investment management or investment banking. That’s a two-day program, and it’s open to any woman who wants to attend that’s going into one of our partner schools. 

Then we have a new program that we’re about to launch called MBA Takeoff. It’s going to be a program prior to our conference that really focuses on MBA success and how you prepare yourself to make the most of your team experience and your classroom experience. It’s not a career-focused program, it really is about the mentality of what you’re about to go through. How are you going to engage with your team in the classroom? How are you going to make sure your voice is heard with faculty? What kind of impact do you want to make on your campus? How do you lead in a classroom environment? We cover a lot of those things that they need to be thinking about before they get to campus and then have to start doing them almost immediately. That program is built on a FranklinCovey model who we’ve been partnering with. We’ve created an entire curriculum that is self-paced so they can jump in and it’s all done through videos, readings, and assessments. Then they have drop-in places where they can connect with the other women going through the program. That’s brand new this year. 

We work with the women in business clubs. We have career fairs for MBA women to connect with employers. We do webinars around career advancement and career topics that are really important for them to be considering. There are just so many things that you can take advantage of by being in the Forte community when you’re an MBA student.

Does the Forte community continue once women leave business school? [17:32]

It does. It’s a place we’re developing in our strategy. We’re really starting to build out our post-MBA offerings. A couple of them are new. We’ve always had Women Lead webinar series, which is very much focused on professional development for women at any stage in their career but we are adding to that something called Rise. We’re doing the first pilot with just 15 women and it starts in about a week. That program is for women 10 years post-MBA who are thinking about what that next step is, or they’re stuck and they want to switch, or they’ve stepped out and they’re ready to step back in. We look at what exactly it is they’re going through. This is a very intensive kind of executive education type course where there’s coaching, programming, and content, but it’s really meant to move them to the next step, whatever that is.

That program is something we’re piloting. We also have something called Career Strategist, that is going to pilot in the fall that’s for early-career women who are maybe 2-4 years post-college thinking about a similar transition and really making sure that they found their place and that they didn’t undersell themselves as they left college. We help them make sure they have found their niche and establish that we are going to be able to be there to support them. We also encourage them to consider an MBA at some point and are able to give them that programming access, but primarily it’s a career-focused program.



Do you have anything for women who have left the workforce to start a family and are looking to reenter? [20:01]

We don’t have a program specifically about reentry, but Rise would be also helpful for that phase of the reentry process. I know there are programs like iRelaunch and they partner specifically with companies around that. Being a part of the Forte community and staying engaged even if you’re not working full-time is one of the things I would encourage women to do, even if they’re not quite sure what they want that step to be when they’re ready to return. Whatever time they can spend staying plugged in, I think that helps your reentry go a lot more smoothly.

What are the other benefits of being a Forte fellow? [21:13]

We have resume books for Forte fellows only and we give those to our employers, so these women get visibility with the employer group. We do programs on their campuses, we encourage their administration to meet with them and get to know them. Sometimes I come, and we have a tea or something just to connect with the fellows, but we do try to give them as much visibility and then we also keep up with them after they graduate. We monitor and track them, we want to know where they’re employed, what kind of promotions they’ve had. We try to connect with them geographically. 

We just had a Forte fellows coffee for the 2005-2010 class. We’re really trying to continue to have those virtually. Now that everybody’s on Zoom it’s the best thing to be able to connect with people in geographic areas like that. We have coffee with the fellows, we send them all a Starbucks gift card and then tell them to go grab their coffee and join us on a Zoom at 10 o’clock in the morning. We get to catch up, see what they’re doing, learn what they’re challenged by in their career, and see if there is anything Forte can do to help them. That was amazing a couple of weeks ago, just having about 10 of them on a call with us. We keep doing those every two or three months, just to make sure we know what’s going on. We also meet with our Edie Hunt Inspiration Award winners, who are all of the women that received these awards at our MBA conference over the last 10 to 15 years. That’s amazing to hear what they’re accomplishing and all the different career paths they’ve headed down. Those are some of the benefits of Zoom and the pandemic and virtual programming. 

What does Forte offer women with entrepreneurial ambitions? [24:14]

In our programming, conferences, and webinars, we’re always pulling in women who are entrepreneurs and having them talk about what that experience is. In terms of role models and advice, we have a lot of places you can read stories, profiles, come to a webinar, download something we’ve recorded in the past. One of the challenges the pandemic brought, was doing something we did at our MBA conference when it was live and that was our pitch competition. We used to bring in four teams that had been vetted over. I think we might have had 50 people apply and then we would narrow it down to four teams that would come and present at our MBA conference, a business idea. They would pitch it to a panel of judges and then they would get an award to some seed money for their business idea.

We had done that for three or four years at the conference, but pulling that off virtually just didn’t work. It wasn’t the right kind of vibe. We’re not going back to that this year. I don’t know if we’re going to pick it up a little bit later or not, but in terms of actual competition and prize money and things like that, that was a really nice thing to point to. We might go back to it at some point, but mostly I would say our content is what we have to offer entrepreneur women or the network if they’re interested in connecting with other women out there that are in that space.

Is Forte active outside of the United States? [25:42]

We don’t have chapters or anything like that but we do have partner schools in Europe and in Canada that are very interested in recruiting North American women to their campuses and recruiting women from other parts of the globe onto their campus for their MBA program. We don’t have college programming at any location outside of the US. Everything is here. But at the MBA level, we have those partners, we have companies, we actually have added a couple of companies that are headquartered globally versus in the US. That’s the first pivot. We have a European school advisory group that we’re meeting with regularly to make sure that we’re doing what they need us to be doing in terms of gender on their campuses.

We’re always running through new programs. Again, the pandemic has put a little bit of a dent in the progress on that, but I would say we’ll start picking back up here pretty soon on that outreach. I also mentioned the conference. We previously had 700 women that would come to our live and in-person conference. Last year and the year before, we had 1400 women who logged in and participated virtually, and we know that a huge portion of that was non-US women who were able to log in the middle of the night, some of them had slept during the day. They had all kinds of funny stories about how they were making time for this conference. They were also excited to be able to come not because they couldn’t get here for it, they couldn’t get here and get back and then get here again to start school. It was truly a travel problem and a visa problem for them to be able to come to the live event. So that’s why I said it’s really hard for us to go back to not having both virtual and in-person. MBA Takeoff is one way that we can really extend that virtual offering to a large group of women who are not going to be able to travel stateside to go to that program before going to their program full-time. 

Where do you see Forte going from here? [28:21]

I mentioned a couple of those programs that we have coming up, and those are all pilots for this year. We built Career Strategist which is for college women, and then MBA Takeoff built on the FranklinCovey platform. We took all of our content and our gender lens and really built it around that FranklinCovey content. But those two things are part of our strategic plan, which is to build out this program portfolio that we have. We looked at everything we do, and we asked ourselves, “What are the gaps that women would see? If I’m a woman starting my freshman year in college and I’m a part of Forte, what are those stepping stones throughout my career that get me to a seasoned professional business person?” And then we started filling those in.

Over the course of our strategic plan, we came up with that early career place. If you graduate college, we didn’t have a real program for you other than MBA Launch. There’s a lot of other things going on in your life when you’re an early-career person so, we built that Career Strategist. I’m not going to tell you about all the programs, but basically, that pipeline of programs is what we’re focused on the pillars of our strategic plan. 

The second one is really around workplace change and thinking about what it is that people need to be equipped with, both men and women as they go into the workforce and where Forte has the opportunity to impact them when it comes to gender equity in the workplace. What kind of programming and education can we give them so that Forte isn’t going to go and change the work environment, but these individuals who have had a mindset shift who can then go make that change? A lot of the work we’re doing around gender equity and allies for gender equity is where we’re going to spend time in terms of the workplace change.

The third pillar is around enduring relationships. One of the things that we want to be as an organization is a place that you can come and this be your place, your hub. This is where you feel like you either made an impact or have been impacted by the work Forte’s doing. We’re making sure that we can track and tell the story of how women have gone from those college programs into the pre-MBA, graduated from business school, moved on, and still came back and connected with us in our professional programs. That’s really important to us. It’s important to us from our corporate and our school partners that we have those connections and that we maintain them. It’s also important to us for the individual women to have that experience with Forte. So building our systems, tracking that, and creating this affinity back to the organization is another area where we’re spending our time. There are still many more programs in that program portfolio to build out over the next couple of years but I think that’s primarily where we’re headed. 

Do you have programs for men who want to support Forte’s mission? [32:22]

We do. We started what we had at the time called Men as Allies on our MBA campuses. We built a toolkit for MBA men to start a chapter on their campus and really gave them a guide about everything they need to think about to start a student organization, but specifically what would be the purpose and the meaning behind having a male ally club. Usually, they were embedded in the Women in Business clubs so that they could all work together on those gender equity challenges on their campus, or in their future career, so they can have those kinds of conversations. Then we morphed that as we quickly realized those students were graduating and going out into the workplac. They were used to having very advanced conversations around equity and their employer, honestly, wasn’t even close to having those conversations.

They said, “We need Forte to come in and help with this conversation.” That was when we started the Male Ally chapters back in 2015. Then the Me Too movement happened and that really escalated the conversation much faster and you saw more programming around this. Now we have chapters on the MBA school campuses, we also have a curriculum that is around allies for gender equity that can be taught, not just to men, but for all individuals who are interested in talking more about the equity conversation and being allies, not only for women but for underrepresented or for disabilities. There are a lot of different ways that that can show up in the workplace. So, we have that curriculum that companies can actually purchase, or we can deliver for them.

We’ve done it all virtually, we’ve done it live and in-person, but we’ve also made it easy to do virtually. We also have an Inclusive Leadership program that you can do as an individual. It doesn’t have to be a whole company that says, “We want you to come in and implement this,” but a company could send two people to this program. All of that’s available and it all started with a panel at one of our partner meetings about this man ambassador group at Harvard at HBS. We took that and interviewed all of these men and women who were involved in it on three campuses, wrote that toolkit, and now it’s morphed into all of these different tentacles of gender equity and allyship. 

What advice would you give a young woman in college considering different careers and maybe business or an MBA? [35:38]

It all depends on who I’m talking to, but I would say that not to discount business. If you are someone who does, make sure you give it a full exploration and that you understand that there are a lot of amazing paths. There’s so much opportunity in so many different ways that you can pursue a business career. We’ve seen the misperceptions – it’s not aligned with you philosophically, you want to do something good and you want to help people, etc. I think that just a little exploration, just digging a little under the surface and you can figure out exactly how to match that passion and interest up with a business career. It really is a place that makes things happen. It’s an opportunity to grab power. Power is not a dirty word. It’s influence. It’s not greed. It’s not selfishness. It is the power to take control of systems and use them to make the good happen in the world that you want to happen and we need more women in those seats of power. 

If you’re thinking about an MBA, know what your “why” is and understand what you want to get out of it. Make sure you’ve talked to people who you admire and who are in careers that you think seem interesting and do the research and think about what doors that MBA opens up to you that are going to be very difficult for you to open yourself because of the pathways that have been established by companies that recruit on those campuses and are looking for top talent. Make sure that you position yourself on that road to success. There are organizations like Forte, people like me, and the men and women on my team who are here to help you be successful. The schools are your cheerleaders too. They want to see you succeed. There’s a lot of support in that MBA network. We just want more of that for women in the business world.

Where can listeners learn more about the Forte Foundation? [44:52]

They can go to our website at www.fortefoundation.org.



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FROM Accepted.com Blog: U.S. News MBA Rankings 2023 [Full-Time & Part-Time]
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Chicago Booth and Wharton (University of Pennsylvania) share the #1 spotlight in [url=https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings]U.S. News’ Best Business Schools[/url] of 2023 rankings, released March 29.

The metrics for the rankings are based on career placement success, student excellence and qualitative assessments by experts. MBA rankings are studied voraciously by applicants, students, and alumni [url=https://blog.accepted.com/do-mba-rankings-matter/]but remain controversial[/url].

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Notable changes this year

[list][*][url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/chicago-booth-mba?hsLang=en]Chicago Booth[/url]’s rise reflected improvements on several metrics: a class GMAT score up by six points to 730; an acceptance that fell by five points to 22.6%; a higher score by corporate recruiters that now matches [url=https://blog.accepted.com/harvard-business-school-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Harvard[/url] and [url=https://blog.accepted.com/wharton-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Wharton[/url]; and a spike in average salary and sign-on bonus for last year’s MBA grads of $7,300 to a record $180,144–the second-highest of any business school. (NYU Stern had the highest of all schools at $181,803.) Placement for the Class of 2021 jumped five points three months after graduation, at 96.4%.

[/*][*]Wharton’s acceptance rate dropped by 4.9 percentage points to 18.2% and their average GMAT score rose by one point. Wharton MBAs enjoyed a jump in average salary and signing bonuses by $6,600 to $179,692, the second-highest of all schools behind only Booth. Job placement three months after commencement moved up by 3.3 percentage points to 96.8%.

[/*][*]Top-ranked schools continued to jostle for position, with some flagship programs rising and others falling. [url=https://blog.accepted.com/stanford-gsb-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Stanford’s GSB[/url] dropped by three notches, tying with [url=https://blog.accepted.com/kellogg-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Kellogg (Northwestern)[/url] for #3. Harvard and MIT Sloan remain tied at #5–no change from last year. Yale University’s SOM notched its highest ranking ever at #7, with Columbia and Haas (UC Berkeley) nipping at its heels, sharing the #8 ranking. Yale’s rise stemmed from a six-point rise in its average GMAT score to 726; a drop of six percentage points on its acceptance rate to 23.6%; and a dramatic 8.8 percentage improvement on its placement rate three months after graduation to 94.1%.

[/*][*][url=https://reports.accepted.com/mba/webinar/harvard-business-school]Harvard Business School[/url]’s fifth-place showing reflects a surprisingly low employment at graduation of 69.0%, lower than any other Top 10 school. Its placement rate three months after graduation was 92.3%, the second-lowest for a Top 10 program. And the average salary and bonus for Harvard’s MBAs last year was $172,774, lower than seven other U.S. business schools. Harvard lost out on other metrics as well, including a higher admit rate of 12.5%, up from 9.2% last year, and average GMAT and undergrad GPAs that were lower than many other competitors.

[/*][*][url=https://blog.accepted.com/michigan-ross-mba-essay-tips-deadlines/]Ross (University of Michigan)[/url] ascended into the Top 10 from #13, while Tuck (Dartmouth College) dropped to #11. Stern (NYU) and Fuqua (Duke University) share the #12 spot. Many other programs in the top 25 leaped forward, including Emory University’s Goizueta Business School, rising five places to #21 and Mendoza College of Business (Notre Dame) gaining 11 places to rank 25th.

[/*][*]Outside the Top 25, Washington University’s Olin Business School in St. Louis rose seven spots to #29 and the University of South Carolina’s Moore School of Business rose eight positions to place #47.[/*][/list]

While U.S. News had dropped [url=https://blog.accepted.com/should-you-take-the-gre-or-gmat-for-test-optional-mba-programs/]standardized test scores[/url] from its online MBA ranking earlier this year, it kept the average class GMAT and GRE scores in its formula for the full-time program rankings.

The rankings were based on a survey of all 493 institutions with master’s-level business programs in the U.S. accredited by AACSB International. A total of 363 survey recipients responded; the final rankings are based on 134 business schools that provided enough data on their [url=https://blog.accepted.com/resources/mba-admissions/mba-essay-tip-posts/]full-time MBA programs[/url] and had large enough 2021 graduating classes seeking employment for valid comparisons. The rankings also include some programs conferring degrees such as Master of Science in Management and Master of Science in Industrial Administration.

U.S. News 2023 Top 10 Full-Time MBA Programs

[b]Rank 2023[/b][b]Rank 2022[/b][b]School[/b][b]Location[/b]13University of Chicago (Booth)Chicago, IL12University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)Philadelphia, PA34Northwestern University (Kellogg)Evanston, IL31Stanford UniversityStanford, CA55Harvard UniversityAllston, MA55Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)Cambridge, MA79Yale UniversityNew Haven, CT87Columbia UniversityNew York, NY87University of California, Berkeley (Haas)Berkeley, CA1013University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (Ross)Ann Arbor, MI

U.S. News 2023 Top 10 Part-Time MBA Programs

[b]Rank 2023[/b][b]Rank 2022[/b][b]School[/b][b]Location[/b]11University of Chicago (Booth)Chicago, IL22University of California, Berkeley (Haas)Berkeley, CA33Northwestern University (Kellogg)Evanston, IL44New York University (Stern)New York, NY55University of California, Los Angeles (Anderson)Los Angeles, CA66Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)Pittsburgh, PA77University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (Ross)Ann Arbor, MI87University of Texas, Austin (McCombs)Austin, TX99University of Southern California (Marshall)Los Angeles, CA1014University of Washington (Foster)Seattle, WA

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By Judy Gruen, former Accepted admissions consultant. Judy holds a Master’s in Journalism from Northwestern University. She is the co-author of Accepted’s first full-length book, MBA Admission for Smarties: The No-Nonsense Guide to Acceptance at Top Business Schools. [b][url=https://www.accepted.com/services?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_medium=blog_bio_Judy&utm_source=blog]Want an admissions expert help you get accepted? Click here to get in touch![/url][/b]

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FROM Accepted.com Blog: Applying to Wharton Lauder? Do Your Research!



Discover what opportunities the Wharton Lauder MBA program offers [Show Summary]

Kara Keenan Sweeney, Director of Admissions Marketing and Financial Aid at the Lauder Institute at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and Penn Law School shares how the program continues to offer global opportunities during a COVID influenced world.

[Show Notes]

Welcome to the 465th episode of Admissions Straight Talk. Thanks for joining me today and whenever you’re able to tune in. The featured resource for today’s show is Fitting in and Standing Out: The Paradox at the Heart of Admissions. Your application needs to show that you’re going to do both, and that’s the difficult paradox at the heart of admissions. Master that paradox, and you are well on your way to acceptance. Download the free guide.

It gives me great pleasure to introduce Kara Keenan Sweeney, Director of Admissions Marketing and Financial Aid at the Lauder Institute at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and Penn Law School. Kara has an extensive background in graduate admissions, starting with her master’s in higher administration at Columbia, and then moving onto admissions positions at INSEAD, the University of Pennsylvania, Penn State, and now the Lauder Institute. 

Can you give us an overview of the Wharton Lauder program for those listeners who aren’t that familiar with it? [1:45]

The Lauder program was founded in the mid-1980s by the Lauder family to work with Wharton to help educate and generate a new, globally-minded group of business leaders. When students come to the Lauder Institute, they’re earning a Master of Arts in International Studies at the same time, they’re getting their MBA from Wharton. Basically, it’s an MA/MBA joint degree fully integrated into the MBA program. 

When students come to Lauder, they focus on one of our six programs of concentration. Five of those programs are regionally focused. We have a program on Africa, East and Southeast Asia, Europe, Latin America, and then what we call the SAMENA region or South Asia, the Middle East and North Africa. That’s our fifth regional program. We also have a global program for our students who have already had fairly significant global experience.

In our regional program students are almost in every case also focused on a language. We have 10 languages of instruction at Lauder. When they come to Lauder they’re already speaking a language at an advanced level, and then they’ll continue to work on that language until they get to the superior or the fluent level over the two years as part of their studies at Lauder. It’s a fully integrated joint degree. We have a small program with about 70 to 80 students a year. It’s a really international community and just an amazing group to be a part of.

Are you also a joint program with the law school? [3:22]

That’s right. Thanks for highlighting that. We do have a joint agreement with the law school as well. Each year we have a handful of students that do it. It’s not really by design; it’s a little bit by default. The law school has just less than 200 students a year over at Penn Law. Wharton is up to about 900. There are just a lot more MBA students.

The Wharton program was founded to really work and fit in specifically with the Wharton school way back when it was founded. Our law school partnership is a little bit more recent, but in the class that’s starting this summer, we actually have three incoming JD students. We’re really happy to have them in the program. We love to have them, but we just tend to have fewer of them.

Does the Lauder Institute only work with applicants interested in dual degrees? [4:13]

Exactly. Lauder only offers a joint degree. Students take about two classes a semester at Lauder. They take their normal Wharton course load or their normal course load over at Penn Law. At Lauder, we borrow the credits from the other degree so that they can graduate with both because some of the Lauder courses count towards the Wharton degree and vice versa. But no, we don’t offer standalone degrees, only a joint degree program for students in one of the other graduate programs at Penn.

Does the dual degree program take the same amount of time as just an MBA or JD degree? [4:46]

Exactly. For Lauder, if you’re doing law school, you complete your first year of law school at Penn Law independent of Lauder. Then your second and third years would be as part of the Lauder program. 

At Wharton, you actually start Lauder first. We have a summer term that preempts the Wharton program and then you start the Wharton program in August each year and then you graduate on time with the rest of your Wharton class two years later.

Has anybody ever tried to do an MBA/JD with the Lauder program? [5:20]

I think it’s a little bit hard considering the coursework, the requirements, and also the cap on the number of classes you can take. You can do a joint degree, but I think triple is hard. We actually have an alum who did the MBA and Lauder simultaneously and then later on went to law school and did three years of a JD program. I think it’s almost impossible to do all three at once.

We definitely have some students who are interested in both. The other partnership that you can do with Wharton is the healthcare management program. We actually get the question a lot from applicants, “Can I do Lauder and the healthcare program?” You can’t do both at the same time, however, you can do Wharton Lauder and then take a lot of the healthcare courses. For anyone who’s interested in international healthcare, whatever the case may be, you can do Wharton and Lauder and still take a lot of the healthcare coursework and program. 

How has Wharton Lauder, a program that reveled in travel, adapted and adjusted its plans during the pandemic? [6:32]

Just like the rest of the world, we were particularly affected a lot in terms of graduate programming, because as you mentioned so much of our programming is focused on the immersions for our students. Historically, all of our students have done a summer immersion as well as other immersions over the two years of the program. In March 2020, we put a halt to all travel, not just at Lauder, but throughout the university. We were really thankful that our two largest classes came through over those two years of COVID. We have 80 students in each of our current classes. 

Last summer, we were able to actually have the students come to Philadelphia and do a Philadelphia immersion, which was great considering most of our students are not from Philadelphia. A lot of our students are from outside of the U.S. actually so it was great for them to be able to come to campus.

The classes were virtual, but we did have a lot of Philly cultural experiences for our students. They were able to take tours. They explored some of the different ethnic neighborhoods in Philly. There was a lot that they could do in Philadelphia. Last year all of our students were taking classes virtually, but there were opportunities for students to meet outdoors. We moved most of our programming online pretty seamlessly. I think our students were still able to build culture and build community. Of course, in the language classes, a lot of those things still took place. The great news is that as of last August, our students were actually able to start traveling again. We had about a year-long pause on travel, which of course was not just us, but everyone really and then last August we had our first intercultural venture start up again.

The students went to Alaska to study indigenous communities, which was great. A little later on, in the fall of October, we had a group of students go to Iceland to study gender equity and women entrepreneurship. We were one of the first groups at Penn and certainly at Wharton and Lauder to start traveling again. Our students have been doing smaller immersions and actually right now over spring break, all of our students are traveling. We have about four locations around the world. Senegal, Israel, Poland-Hungary, and India.

We’re fully ramped up. We’ve also had students traveling and doing research as part of their master thesis project with the Global Knowledge Lab and we’re planning on summer immersions taking place this coming summer of 2022. I would say things are fairly robustly returning to normal for Lauder. Maybe not fully the way they looked pre-COVID but quite similar to the way they were in the past.

How is the war in Ukraine affecting travel and the Lauder immersion program to Poland and Hungary? [9:43]

All of us were cautious about the students traveling to Poland and Hungary during this time. They are in safe locations. Initially, with the world and how volatile it is right now, we were concerned about COVID protocols. Of course, the students had to test and do everything they would do as part of the country’s requirements. That was our focus pretty much leading up to the trip, then of course the terrible situation with Ukraine happened. Our students still did go. In fact, they’re blogging about their experience, which will be part of some of the social media posts that we have over the next couple of weeks about their experience going to these countries during this time.

Right now we’re trying to maintain as much normalcy as we can for our students. There have been different ways for our students to seek out support if they feel like they need to do that as part of what’s going on. Of course, we have students coming from that part of the world or have family origins in that part of the world, and really everyone’s affected at this point, whether it’s directly or indirectly.

We’re making sure we’re there for our students in sort of an emotional support way and also making sure we educate our students. In the last couple of weeks, I can’t tell you the number of talks, sessions, and lunchtime talks that there have been at Lauder and throughout the university on the situation so our students can understand it better. We have alumni hosting events as well. There’s a strong focus on that region, but also a strong desire to have things be as normal as possible for our students now and of course, going into the summer as well.

How do you go through an application? [11:53]

The great thing with Lauder is you can actually apply simultaneously with your application to Wharton. You complete the Wharton application online, your Wharton essays, letters of recommendation, standardized tests, and then within the Wharton application, you indicate that you’re also interested in applying to Lauder. It’s a supplemental application built into the Wharton application online. 

For Lauder, we ask for a couple of specific things. We ask for the results of your language score. All of our students who apply to Lauder have to take something called the Oral Proficiency Interview or OPI. It’s administered by a third company called The Language Testing Institute.

For anyone who’s listening, you can find all of that information on our website. It’s actually quite a good resource. There are audio clips of language tests that have taken place in the past and also more helpful information on preparing for the OPI. Our students take the OPI, it’s a 30-minute phone conversation in a different language. In order to be admitted to Lauder,  students have to test at least at the advanced low level or above in one of the 10 languages that we teach. 

If they’re interested in applying to our global or our Africa general track, they have to test a superior level in any language other than English. Essentially that means being fully bilingual. It can be in their native language provided it’s not English. That’s for anybody who’s a non-native English speaker who also, of course, is fluent in English. The global program is designed for students who have had fairly significant international experience already and are looking for more of a macro level experience studying global studies from that wider lens, looking at issues across regions, that sort of thing.

Our Africa general track is also for students who are fluent in any language other than English, and are interested in focusing on the entire continent of Africa. Historically, we had called it the Anglophone Africa track, but that was kind of a misnomer because our students were really studying the entire continent, not just English-speaking Africa. We also have an Africa Francophone track which is for students who can test at the advanced level in French. The language component is important as part of the application as well as over the duration of the two years in the program. 

Does every Lauder participant know at least two languages? [14:38]

Yes, I would say every Lauder applicant has advanced knowledge of a language in addition to English. English is the language of instruction at Wharton and a lot of classes at Lauder. You also have to be either fluent or advanced in any language other than English, or one of the 10 languages that we teach at Lauder. 

What are the 10 languages that you teach at Lauder? [15:02]

I’ll break it down by program of concentration. For Africa, we have a French track. For our Europe program, we offer Spanish, Russian, French, and German. For Latin America, we offer Spanish and Portuguese. In Eastern and Southeast Asia, we have Mandarin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean. Our last program of concentration is the SAMENA track and we offer Arabic and Hindi. Those are the 10 languages. When you’re applying to the program, you’re taking an OPI in one of those 10 languages if you plan to pursue regional studies with language. Or you’re taking the OPI in any language other than English for our Africa general or global program.

What about students who speak a different language outside of the 10 offered languages? [15:52]

We only have 10 languages right now. We are always adding more. A few years ago we added Korean. We have seen interest in a Vietnamese track. We’re getting a lot more interest with students in that language profile. It’s not to say that we won’t add languages, but right now those are our 10 languages. There are opportunities through the school of arts and sciences to take advanced language in some of the classes that Lauder doesn’t teach, but we have a formula for Lauder. It’s those regional programs with one of the 10 languages global Africa track. 

The other components of the application are two essays for Lauder. Our first essay asks you to talk a little bit about why you’re interested in Lauder and why you’re applying to your chosen program of concentration. Our second essay is actually new this year. We ask applicants to talk about what they might like to research as part of the master thesis project at Lauder.

For those who are unfamiliar with that, it’s called the Global Knowledge Lab. It’s definitely another opportunity to go to our website and read about the GKL, as we call it, to learn a little bit more about the project. Basically, it’s a master thesis project. Students can write about virtually anything that they’re interested in doing, as long as it relates to their program of concentration. We’ve had students write about things coming from the arts and entertainment perspective and the sports world. We’ve had students write about blockchain, finance, history. Some of our students have actually leveraged the GKL to transition to a job after Lauder. We had a student a few years back who wrote about the NBA in China and was able, through contacts that he made, to take a job with the National Hockey League in New York. He was really able to leverage that research. We’ve had other students work on just passion projects. A few years ago, we had a student who was really interested in the history of North Africa so he wrote about that even though that’s not his personal background. It’s just an opportunity for our students to do master’s research as part of the MA degree. It’s definitely different from what you would do at the MBA program and they’ll actually do on the ground research as well to build research.

The second component of the GKL project is a group project. When students are approaching the application, they don’t need to know fully what they would like to research. They’re not committed to it, but we want them to understand that the master’s thesis project is a big part of Lauder. You’ll have a ton of support as you do this project over two years, but we want you to be thinking about what you might like to research. Show us that you’ve gone to the website and have read a little bit about what the GKL is so you’re coming fully educated on what the project is.  

Do you plan to keep the same application questions for next year? [19:07]

That’s a great question. We’re not totally done with this admission cycle. I think we might revert to having one question that encompasses two parts. There are two required essays for Wharton and two for Lauder. We realize that’s four essays to apply to the program. Presumably, we’re not the only program you’re applying to, so we want to be mindful of the applicants and how much time they’re devoting to it. I think that knowing why you’re applying to Lauder, your chosen program of concentration, and knowing what you might like to research as part of the GKL will still be part of the essay questions in some form whether they’re duplicative of what we have this year, perhaps not but I think you can think about that as part of your applications.

So the OPI and essays are two really big things. We’ll ask you to tell us a little bit about any international experience that you’ve had. We look at that as three months or more outside of your home country. 

When you submit your application, it is a joint application to both programs. I emphasize that because your application is not reviewed independently by two admissions committees. It’s reviewed jointly. The Lauder admissions committee actually takes the lead with the review of your application. Myself, my colleague, our second-year students, who are trained to read applications, will read your Wharton and Lauder application from start to finish and we’re actually trained to evaluate your Wharton application as well. We’ll read your Wharton essays, all of that in tandem with your Lauder application.



The good thing about that is you’re only evaluated in the pool for the Wharton Lauder pool. So with Wharton and Lauder, it’s a highly self-selected group of applicants who have applied to the program. They know the language requirement. They’ve had some international experience. They want to do two degrees. Often, people will be concerned that they disadvantage themselves by applying to Lauder, but really it’s kind of the inverse. You’re actually only applying amongst a much smaller pool of really highly qualified applicants versus the 5,000-7,000 applications that Wharton gets.

We do make a joint decision with Wharton. We’ll meet as part of a joint admissions committee so that you’re jointly offered admission to both programs, but Lauder does take the lead with that application review. The last component for the Lauder application is actually after you’ve submitted it. For Lauder, there is a dedicated interview in addition to the Wharton team-based discussion. You’ll do the normal Wharton application interview process and then at Lauder, you’ll have about a 30-minute interview with a current student or an alum or a staff member specifically focused on your interest at the Lauder program.

What gets you excited about an application to Lauder? [22:42]

Most of our applicants are coming with, not necessarily tons of international experience, but we do see that most of our students have had some international exposure. It’s sort of a given that they’ll have that. What excites me about an application is when they can tie that into the program, to their interests at Lauder, and to their long-term goals. Seeing how it’s relevant not just to something really interesting on their resume or interesting on their CV, but something that really is telling about what they’ll bring to the classroom. Maybe you spent two years working in Egypt after you graduated from college, that’s great. Maybe you were working, let’s say you were doing consulting, but what did you learn that are the intangibles that you can bring to the classroom, to the class discussion?

Really, what we’re looking for at Lauder is evidence of that cultural or global mindset that you don’t necessarily have as perhaps somebody who spends time outside of your own country. You can seek that out or you could kind of live in that bubble that some people tend to do when they travel or work abroad. It’s important for our applicants to show evidence to the admissions committee that they’re really culturally curious about the world, they see the value of culture and language. Travel is an amazing experience, but I think learning from that and what you can bring back to the classroom and then take to your profession gives you those intangible skills. I think that’s really important. Bring that to your essays, bring that to your interview discussion. I think it’s really important to show us that you have the soft skills as well in addition to that, maybe on-the-ground experience outside of your own country.

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Is it possible to refer an applicant from the Lauder pool to the regular MBA admissions if you see they’ll be a better fit there? [31:08]

I’m glad you asked that because we do get that question a lot as well. On the application, applicants can check a box that indicates if they’re not admitted to Lauder, they would still like to be considered for the Wharton-only program. Be sure to check that box if you’re still interested in Wharton. In reviewing the application, we actually have the ability to do exactly what you’re saying, “This person for X, Y, and Z reason isn’t maybe a fit for Lauder, but would be great for Wharton.” 

In the actual admissions committee, when we’re going through every applicant, we’ll maybe talk about, “Hey, this person really doesn’t have international exposure.” We do sometimes have people who apply before they have their language score, they get their language score, and no matter how hard they work on it, they’re not able to get to our minimum score of advanced low. In that case, we really can’t admit them for Lauder, but they can certainly be admitted for Wharton. Each year there are a handful of students who are admitted to Wharton only. I would say if you’re a good fit for Lauder and you’ve got a great Wharton application, there’s really no reason why you wouldn’t be admitted unless it’s something really glaring like the language score or something like that. But yes, you absolutely will still be considered for Wharton only if for some reason Lauder isn’t fit.

What is the Lauder interview like? [32:28]

It’s probably a little bit more to what our applicants might be thinking about in a typical MBA interview, but a 30-minute conversation. We’ve been doing them over Zoom for the last couple of years but historically we have done them on campus or really all over the world for a lot based on where our applicants are living. So if you’re in Tokyo, or London, or São Paulo, we have alums in all of these places who can conduct interviews. Right now we’re doing them on Zoom, we’ll see if that continues. For Lauder, it’s really a couple of things. The most important thing for us is why not just Wharton on its own? Why Lauder? What’s key about the Lauder program that you won’t get through Wharton on its own? Of course at Wharton, you can travel. There mini immersions that you can do but what are you really looking to gain through Luader? Why does our program make sense for you? 

We’ll ask about short and long-term goals. We’ll ask about your language skills. Why do you want to study a language if that’s a part of the program for you? What would you like to research? We’ll ask for evidence of that cross-cultural mindset. We’ll ask you to give some examples of times when you were dealing with a cultural barrier that you had to navigate. They’re our typical straightforward questions. I don’t think anything that’ll be too shocking, but definitely good for our applicants to prepare for that, similar to how you would for a job interview. I always tell people you want to come prepared, bring your resume, be prepared to talk about your strengths, about your gaps, about your goals. 

Where do a lot of grads get you jobs? [33:58]

We have the usual suspects to some extent in terms of post MBA outcomes for Lauder students with a caveat that a lot of our students are doing that work may be for Amazon, or McKinsey, or in finance internationally. We have quite a lot of international students at Lauder who are looking to stay in the U.S. for a couple of years and gain some U.S. experience. They’re going to New York or to the West Coast or to Chicago, wherever the case may be. We also have students whether they’re from the U.S. or not looking to work in region. I would say students come to Lauder for a couple of reasons. Some of them are really going to work the two years because they want to do private equity in China or private equity in Nigeria and that is the focus for them. So they focus, they work on their language, they work on all of these things to have that as a job.

For some of our students, it’s private equity anywhere. It doesn’t matter. So maybe the industry or the role is the primary driver and location is second or third. But our typical outcomes are technology. Amazon is the number one hire for Wharton and Lauder for the past couple of years. Not by a huge number, but definitely number one and after that it’s consulting and financial services but we are seeing an increasing number of students go into social impact, into NGOs, into some development work. 

Of course, each year we see more and more students both at Wharton and Lauder interested in entrepreneurship. So I would say those are the five areas that jump out which are fairly similar to the MBA. We see about one out of every three Lauder students working outside of their home country after graduation with a lot of the international students wanting to stay in the U.S. for a few years.

Here are some questions from an international listener. “Why are most compulsory admission essay prompts so personal? On a personal note, I cried trying to unearth memories I had buried so deeply, so I could write truthfully. It was a worthwhile experience and a reconciliation with the past that made me feel very vulnerable.” Is vulnerability in an essay whether perceived, real, or imagined a good element? [35:41]

I don’t know about vulnerability in particular, but I would say when you’re writing your essays, you want to draw from your personal experiences. Business schools are looking to bring students who have had interesting professional experiences and have a strong aptitude for whatever they’re looking to do afterward, but they’re also looking to bring in good community members. I know that’s a big focus for Wharton in particular. You don’t have to tell us a sob story about your upbringing. The funny thing is, I do feel like now we’re seeing more and more personal stories come to light whether applicants think that’s what we want to read or not. I feel some of our applicants now generationally are maybe more attuned to talking about themselves on a personal level. I feel that years back, you would have seen people keeping it very professional.

I think it’s good to have a combination. It’s not a therapy session. I don’t think you need to go to the heart of something that you would find upsetting. I think you want to write about something that’s really personal and important to you, but also something that has practical applications to the community of Wharton, perhaps in some ways your professional experience, your backgrounds, your goals. Think of it in a practical or strategic way.

I don’t think you need to get so personal with us that it leaves you feeling uncomfortable. You want to feel like you wrote a good essay that shows part of your character and how you can bring that strong character to the graduate program. For Lauder, our essays are a bit more directive in terms of academic experiences, but of course, we’re bringing individuals to our programs and we want to make sure they’re good community members. Some of those essays are looking to find that you’re going to be a good contributor.

The second question from our listener is, “How do you consider international students who apply to universities and cannot pay at least 5% to 10% of the fees? Do you get irritated and wonder if they consider the university a charity home?” [38:20]

No, definitely not. We have a ton of international students at Lauder. We have students coming from all over the world, of course, where there are huge disparate salaries but we do expect that students have done their research and frankly, I don’t know of a ton of students receiving 100% full funding to both programs. At Lauder, we’re very lucky to be very generously funded by the Lauder family. For Lauder, most of our students are receiving the average award for fellowships of $40,000 and the cost of the program is around $45,000 to $50,000 each year, depending on some of the travel components.

Most of the Lauder students are actually receiving full or near to full funding for the Lauder program. On the Wharton side, you have to approach it as if you’re applying to an elite business school. It’s a huge investment. Studies on MBA programs show that within five years, the return on investment is really worthwhile. You have to think about the financials. Do you want to take out a loan? The average student isn’t getting full funding.

When we’re reading your application, we’re not thinking about that at all. We’re looking at the quality of your application. In terms of finance and funding, that comes after you’ve been admitted to the program. For Lauder, every student who comes to Lauder is admitted to the program and receives at least a merit-based award and then you have the opportunity at Lauder to apply for need-based funding on top of that. At Wharton, they have generous funding, but again, not everybody is getting a full scholarship. You have to come into it knowing that realistically, you’re probably going to have to fund part of the program through your loans or through your financing.

What would you have liked me to ask you? [40:30]

That’s a good question. You asked me a little bit about what makes me excited about reading an application. I think maybe one question is like, “What’s our ideal student?” It’s sort of unfair to say there is such a thing as an ideal student. I think something that maybe is probably more practical is, “What makes a successful student in the program? What do we see from the application stage which then makes them successful?” 

In talking about the community aspect or being a good community member, I think that’s more and more important as years go by, especially with what COVID taught us. You’re going to have unprecedented challenges. COVID of course, is this huge world crisis that kind of threw us all for a loop and hopefully, we don’t experience something else like that in our lifetime, but for our students, when they’re in the program and long term, they’re always going to have challenges that are thrown their way whether they’re big or small. Know that coming to a rigorous place like Wharton and Lauder, you’re going to be very busy, you’re going to have a ton of demands, but still make an effort to be a good community member, to be collegial, to be kind, to have these intangibles. 

Of course, with COVID in the U.S., we had a big societal upheaval with Black Lives Matter and other sorts of social crises, political change in the country. I think everyone is feeling in general worn out from the last couple of years. Knowing that experience has been really difficult for everyone, whether you’re a student, a staff member at a university, a professor and coming to the program and filming with the mindset of being a good community member, somebody who’s going to make a good contribution, be positive, patient, be kind I think those are the things that I personally am looking for to see in applicants, in addition to having a strong academic and professional background. 

Where can listeners and potential applicants learn more about the Wharton Institute’s joint MA/MBA and MA/JD programs? [43:03]

You can learn more about Lauder by going to our site, which is lauder.wharton.upenn.edu.



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FROM Accepted.com Blog: How Do Your Top Choice MBA Programs Rank in Accepted’s Selectivity Index?



This year’s MBA Selectivity Index™ is here!

Accepted developed the MBA Selectivity Index to help you apply realistically and effectively to business school. The index takes the most recent U.S. News rankings data and reflects the schools’ average GPA, test scores, and acceptance rates so that you can assess the relative difficulty of acceptance. You can also order the schools by average test score, GPA, or acceptance rate.

We chose to focus on these key metrics not because they are solely determinative (because they are not), but because they do illustrate how difficult it is to gain acceptance to a school relative to other programs. These particular metrics also suggest which schools may be focusing on a certain aspect of an applicant’s profile and which may not.

Average GMAT and GPA for top MBA programs

Here are some stats we found when analyzing the U.S. News data this year:

  • Stanford GSB is #1 on the Selectivity Index again, and again has the highest GPA (3.78), GMAT score (738) and the lowest acceptance rate (6.2%) of all schools on the list. Harvard is #2 on the Index (ranked #5 in the U.S. News rankings, up from sixth place last year), with lower GMAT scores and GPA (725 and 3.70), but with a significantly higher acceptance rate than Stanford at a still miserly 12.5%.

  • 22 schools had average GMAT scores of 700 or above, compared to 16 schools last year and 19 the year before.

  • 34 schools had average GPAs of 3.5 or higher this year, compared to 31 last year and 28 the year before.



Why did we develop the Selectivity Index?

Because we noticed that applicants tended to:

  • Apply to schools where they were not competitive.

    Applicants were basing this decision on the stats and available information (which was inadequate – the Selectivity Index just wasn’t there yet).

  • Focus on the one metric where they were either very strong or very weak.

    Focusing on the one number that either makes you feel great or makes you feel terrible means that you fail to choose schools realistically, and consequently invest poorly in your overall application effort.

  • Ignore weaknesses.

    This generally results in a failure to address or mitigate the weaknesses. If you’re going to ignore them, you’re not going to fix them or provide context for them.

At Accepted, we don’t routinely discourage our clients from pursuing their dream schools – all you have to lose is the time spent putting together the application and the fee to submit, and at the end of the day strong examples of leadership and impact are always going to capture the attention of an admissions committee. That said, it makes sense for you to realistically assess your competitiveness at your target schools by comparing your test scores and grades as well as the non-quantitative factors in your profile to the known stats and stated criteria of the schools you want to attend.

How to use the information in the Selectivity Index

You can’t apply to b-school in a bubble. You must evaluate your qualifications in parallel to the average stats for your target schools. Here’s what we recommend you do:

  • Apply to a few dream (2-3) schools, but mostly to programs where you are competitive (4-5).

  • Assess your weaknesses and strengths in the context of your overall application so that you neither obsess over a weakness nor fail to provide positive reasons for acceptance.

  • Work to mitigate weaknesses before and during the actual application process while highlighting strengths and creating a strong case for acceptance beyond the stats in your application.

A few of you may be thinking:

“I know my chances aren’t great at my target schools. But I’m working and making good money. It doesn’t pay for me to apply to any but the most prestigious schools.”

There are some applicants in this situation, but very few. If you’re one of them, you are applying rationally. If you aren’t one of them and you could achieve your goals at programs where you are competitive, then chances are you are relying too heavily on reputation over fit.

Weaknesses in the MBA Selectivity Index

While we feel this is a useful tool for anyone considering business school, when it comes to just stats there are some things missing.

  • The Selectivity Index doesn’t reflect non-quantitative information, which does play a significant role in the holistic admissions process, and can allow those with non-quantitative strengths to get in despite lower-than-average stats.

  • It doesn’t reflect the schools’ desire for diversity in their classes and community. Depending on your demographic profile, you may have a lower or higher bar to hit to be considered competitive for admission.

  • It doesn’t reflect the importance of showing fit with an individual school’s strengths, mission, and values. It is up to you to do the appropriate research, including (if possible) visits to the school, attendance at in-person and online admissions events, and/or connecting with current students or alumni. At the end of the day, the results of that research are much more important in helping you determine where to apply than stats could ever be.

  • It does not measure or reflect ROI, educational quality, or career opportunity, which are all things you should factor into your decision-making process.

Finally, while the Selectivity Index does reveal the relative level of competition at different programs, it doesn’t excuse you from making sure that the schools where you are competitive will also help you achieve your goals. It does you no good to get into a program that won’t help you go down your chosen path and realize your dreams.



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FROM Accepted.com Blog: MBA Options: Full-Time MBA vs. Part-Time MBA vs. EMBA



At its core, the MBA is a graduate program in business administration for professionals who seek knowledge, skills, a credential, and/or a network to advance in business and to maximize their business performance. While “MBA” makes many people automatically think of a two-year, full-time program, in recent years the variations on the MBA theme have multiplied, in response to the changing and diversifying needs and interests of students and organizations.

Natalie’s story

When I was applying to b-school, I contemplated part-time vs. full-time, and one of my best friends, Colleen, had to make the same decision at the same time.

Ultimately, I decided to attend the full-time program at the University of Michigan. Colleen decided to attend a part-time program at the University of Michigan. We shared 60% of the same classes, 40% of the same professors, and even had a class together. (At the time, Michigan offered courses where they reserved half the registrations for full-time students and half the registrations for part-time students. Since that time, the school has dramatically changed the full-time curriculum and it is unlikely that we would overlap now like we did then.)

I graduated two years before Colleen with a unique internship, an opportunity to begin a new career, and a lot of debt. Colleen advanced quickly with the company that hired her upon our graduation from college and graduated without debt because her company sponsored her education. We both have the same degree.

Now as an Accepted consultant and as a former Admissions Director and Dean of full-time, part-time, and EMBA programs, I lend you my insight and guidance from the other side of the table in this brief analysis of programs.

Getting to know the MBA players

Are you ready to explore the various players in MBA admissions? Here’s a roundup of the main MBA options that are currently available, and their benefits and drawbacks.

Full-time MBA programs

This is a two-year, full-time program with an internship in the summer. It targets business (and sometimes other) professionals with roughly 3-8 years of experience. These programs are perfect for career-changers in the 25-30 year old range that can afford the opportunity cost of leaving work to immerse themselves in education and experience. Obtaining a new position post-MBA is often a major focus of students, and recruiting by potential employers is a significant benefit of attending a full-time MBA.

A business school’s reputation relies mostly on its full-time MBA program’s brand value. Those programs consume the largest portion of the school’s budget, and they rarely make revenue for the school. More than 90% of all scholarships and fellowships are dedicated to full-time students.

Pros

  • Close and sustained interaction with other full-time students – ideal for career changers, internship opportunity, strong recruiting, company presentations, fellowships and scholarships
  • Feels like an undergraduate again with clubs and activities

Cons

  • Significant opportunity cost, time away from industries that are undergoing rapid change
  • Families often get the short stick, but there are typically resources to support a spouse

Part-time MBA programs

Ideal for people who don’t want to leave their company or industry for any significant period or who can’t afford to stop working. Such programs target people who are employed full time, under the premise that students’ ongoing work will inform classroom discussion and projects. Part-time MBA students tend to be a little older than full-time MBA students. While these programs have traditionally served local students, increasingly they are offering varied structures and online components to attract distance students. They do not generally offer as much access to recruiters. Often admission is less competitive than for the same school’s full-time program, enabling part-time students to obtain a “brand” that they may not qualify for otherwise.

These programs are the cash cow of MBA programs and live in the shadow of their smaller full-time counterpart. They take very few resources, but they often share the same faculty as the full-time program. Aggregated, the part-time applicant pool is not as competitive or as diverse since schools typically receive fewer applications, and they are limited to their immediate region and the industries that dominate that region. Furthermore, part-time programs have the capacity to serve at least as many and often more students than their full-time counterparts.

As much as schools say the quality of the full-time students and the part-time students are the same, the quality is dependent on location and how that location generates applications. Bigger cities have an easier time of attracting great applicants to their part-time program and can maintain higher quality standards, but full-time programs generate applications from around the globe and it’s much easier to pick and choose candidates for admission.

Pros

  • Can continue to work/earn, apply learning in real time, gain access to top-tier programs
  • Part-time students can often get full or partial sponsorships form their company lessening the financial burden, but do not typically have access to fellowships or scholarships from the school

Cons

  • Take longer, no internship, usually no recruiting, it can be grueling to work and study simultaneously
  • Part-timers typically do not have the same access to comprehensive career services as full-time programs because company presentations and interviews are typically held during the day

Executive MBA programs

Executive MBA programs are part-time programs targeting seasoned managers and entrepreneurs — typically people in their mid-thirties to late forties (depending on the program) whose rise to senior level is imminent or who are already in senior management. There is a range within this category in terms of desired/required length of experience. While coursework covers the same topics as regular MBA programs, it’s developed and presented with the higher level perspective. A great benefit of EMBA programs is the chance to network and form relationships with peers from a variety of industries and functions at a career phase when a fresh perspective is quite valuable, but sometimes hard to obtain. These programs don’t target career changers, but are increasingly used by and open to them, even though most EMBA programs don’t offer formal recruiting.

EMBA programs are also lucrative for schools, but they typically are not as large as full-time programs, and schools charge a premium for the EMBA program. These programs are typically held every other weekend and tend to be less generous with financial aid than their full-time cousins.

Pros

  • Can apply learning immediately at work, breadth of exposure at a pivotal professional moment, valuable credential
  • Students bond well with their cohort and the faculty

Cons

  • Challenge of school plus demanding career and personal/family responsibilities, usually no formal recruiting for career changers
  • These students rarely interact with either part-time or full-time students

For EMBA admissions advice, check out EMBA: The Ultimate Guide for Applicants.

Specialized graduate management programs

These programs offer the MBA course with a focus on a specific industry or function, there are such options among both regular and executive MBA programs. They vary in their formats and approaches. Boston University’s Social Impact Full-Time MBA is an example of a two-year specialized MBA, UC Irvine’s Health Care Executive MBA (HCEMBA) is an example of a specialized EMBA. The Cornell Tech MBA is an example of a one-year specialized MBA.

Pros

  • Intensive focus on area of interest with coursework adapted accordingly, network of colleagues with related experience and goals

Cons

  • Missing out on the diverse perspectives from other industries/sectors that can refresh and invigorate your thinking

While you usually can’t apply to two different types of MBA programs at the same school in the same admissions cycle, you can do so in different cycles. And you can apply to different types of programs at different schools at the same time. For example, if someone is between regular and executive MBA in terms of age or length of experience, they could apply to some regular MBAs that trend older and some executive MBAs that trend younger. Or someone may apply to full-time MBA programs but also apply to a part-time program nearby as an acceptable back-up.

Which is the ideal MBA program for you? Which of these options will help propel your business career forward? Check out our MBA consulting services and get matched with an advisor who will help you choose the best program for you and apply successfully.





By Natalie Grinblatt Epstein, former admissions dean/director at three top business schools. Natalie has reviewed over 70,000 applications, interviewed over 2,500 candidates, and has trained nearly 700 admissions directors and alumni volunteers to select outstanding candidates for admission. Her clients gain admission to top programs including Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, MIT, Cornell, Columbia, Berkeley, and NYU. Natalie holds an MBA from Michigan Ross. Want Natalie to help you get Accepted? Click here to get in touch!



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