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I have also heard that most of the Park fellowships are pre-determined - with majority going to underrepresented minorities - and weekend is just for those candidates to lose.


...and I'm here to tell you you're wrong. Of the selectees of this past weekend, the only "minority" selected were two women.


Sorry, seems like I really was wrong. Well, now I think about it, I went to a diversity event, so all fellows I met there were supposed to be from under represented minorities.
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I received an email from FedEx stating that my offer binder was preparing to be shipped (overnight) - it was "initiated" - but appears to never have been delivered to FedEx. The tracking number shoes no action.

Anyone else experience the same?
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I received an email from FedEx stating that my offer binder was preparing to be shipped (overnight) - it was "initiated" - but appears to never have been delivered to FedEx. The tracking number shoes no action.

Anyone else experience the same?


Same here.
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For those of you unhappy with your scholarship offers and are considering enrolling elsewhere, have you considered/tried to negotiate? Is Johnson open to that?
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For those of you unhappy with your scholarship offers and are considering enrolling elsewhere, have you considered/tried to negotiate? Is Johnson open to that?


I actually met a current student who got about $10k more to match another offer. Unfortunately, once the weekend is over, you are only given 2 days to pay the first deposit so any negotiations after scholarship weekend and before the 2nd deposit may require you to forego at least $1,500 deposit, should you choose to go elsewhere.
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Any international got info on Binder/ Fedex?
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Wow... lot of negativity here... I had mixed experiences myself. The guy I met during visit and other class guys/ alumns have been very responsive. Though recently I have seen low responsiveness from 2nd years... understandable as they might be facing recruitment pressures.. I guess the weather and recruitment stress just showing off in unexpected ways... :)

Instead, I have started connecting with alumni and 1st years... They have both been very helpful...
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For those of you unhappy with your scholarship offers and are considering enrolling elsewhere, have you considered/tried to negotiate? Is Johnson open to that?


To answer your question directly - no, I have not. As Tochenzo said above, we met many people that had negotiated and received ~10k more annually. If money is your big concern, then I would definitely negotiate (especially if you have other offers at other schools or scholarship money from other schools).

Personally, I am not unhappy with my scholarship offer, but rather wish I could be part of the Park Leadership program. Going into the weekend, I had contingency plans for what would happen if I didn't get the Park and one of those was looking at another school. Getting the Park (in my mind) was a way to differentiate myself in a school that is not terribly competitive; theory being that if I could get the most esteemed scholarship at Johnson - I would have a better shot at a job at a top tier consulting firm.

All of that being said - the folks that were awarded the Park last weekend were some of the most impressive people I've met: multi-lingual, community-oriented, environmentally and ethically conscious, friendly, etc. They were entirely well-deserving of the esteem, as well as the financial compensation, and I'm proud to say I was considered in the same group of people.

I don't see any of what I've said thus far as being negative, this is a forum for personal experiences and thoughts - and I've chosen to consider other options based on my experience and my introspection about what Johnson offers me for my career. Johnson is clearly an incredible institution, otherwise we wouldn't have all applied there. :-D
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Wow... lot of negativity here... I had mixed experiences myself. The guy I met during visit and other class guys/ alumns have been very responsive. Though recently I have seen low responsiveness from 2nd years... understandable as they might be facing recruitment pressures.. I guess the weather and recruitment stress just showing off in unexpected ways... :)

Instead, I have started connecting with alumni and 1st years... They have both been very helpful...


Angelind - I don't agree that there is a lot of negativity, and if any, are unrelated to the responsiveness of the current students. Everyone I have met that currently goes to Johnson has been indrecibly helpful througout the process and I look forward to being a part of the next class.
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Getting the Park (in my mind) was a way to differentiate myself in a school that is not terribly competitive; theory being that if I could get the most esteemed scholarship at Johnson - I would have a better shot at a job at a top tier consulting firm.



FWIW - the Park does help you get noticed, but in the end, it's not going to get you the job (it may help get the interview). For the first year class, I know of two guys who got Bain offers, and neither of them are Park Fellows (and I don't know of any Park in the class of 2015 that landed MBB).
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Getting the Park (in my mind) was a way to differentiate myself in a school that is not terribly competitive; theory being that if I could get the most esteemed scholarship at Johnson - I would have a better shot at a job at a top tier consulting firm.



FWIW - the Park does help you get noticed, but in the end, it's not going to get you the job (it may help get the interview). For the first year class, I know of two guys who got Bain offers, and neither of them are Park Fellows (and I don't know of any Park in the class of 2015 that landed MBB).


Makes sense - thanks for all of your input (here & in the prospective forum)! Definitely helpful to have a current student's perspective on what really happens in business school, rather than my assumptions. :thanks
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Getting the Park (in my mind) was a way to differentiate myself in a school that is not terribly competitive; theory being that if I could get the most esteemed scholarship at Johnson - I would have a better shot at a job at a top tier consulting firm.



FWIW - the Park does help you get noticed, but in the end, it's not going to get you the job (it may help get the interview). For the first year class, I know of two guys who got Bain offers, and neither of them are Park Fellows (and I don't know of any Park in the class of 2015 that landed MBB).



On the topic of MBB recruitment. Around how many students land MBB offers each year? And how many students get offers from the next tier? The employment website did not give any info on hiring numbers for each company.
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On the topic of MBB recruitment. Around how many students land MBB offers each year? And how many students get offers from the next tier? The employment website did not give any info on hiring numbers for each company.


For the class of 2014, nine people landed a coveted MBB internship. However, I'll point out that this includes international offices and such glamorous locations such as Cleveland, OH.

26 landed at Accenture/Deloitte/E&Y/PwC - should note here that the majority of these were in the NYC offices.

In other words, manage expectations. If the prestige of MBB is what you want, location preference is going to take a back seat. Much easier to get McKinsey Pittsburgh or Bain Dallas than either of those firms in say, San Francisco.

Another thing to keep in mind is the longview - if you don't land MBB as an intern, you can try again as a 2nd year. I've met folks at Johnson who landed McKinsey after interning in something other than consulting.
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I just felt not getting scholarships led to many disgruntled candidates. Honestly, if one likes the school and if it is first choice, it shouldn't matter much.. so the opinion. The students and staff have been extremely helpful, I was just advising people on connecting with current students based on my experiences so that it is of help to those trying to get more info about the school. Anyways to each his own... Johnson is indeed a great school and I am sure you'll have 2 wonderful years of your life there... Good luck!

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Wow... lot of negativity here... I had mixed experiences myself. The guy I met during visit and other class guys/ alumns have been very responsive. Though recently I have seen low responsiveness from 2nd years... understandable as they might be facing recruitment pressures.. I guess the weather and recruitment stress just showing off in unexpected ways... :)

Instead, I have started connecting with alumni and 1st years... They have both been very helpful...


Angelind - I don't agree that there is a lot of negativity, and if any, are unrelated to the responsiveness of the current students. Everyone I have met that currently goes to Johnson has been indrecibly helpful througout the process and I look forward to being a part of the next class.
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Hey,

Thanks for sharing these numbers. Just a question, would you know of any AMBAs with dual degrees as well who would be doing consulting internships, or is it just 2 year MBAs. Thanks for your participation in the forum Corbakai, it has helped prospectives learn a lot about Johnson...

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For the class of 2014, nine people landed a coveted MBB internship. However, I'll point out that this includes international offices and such glamorous locations such as Cleveland, OH.

26 landed at Accenture/Deloitte/E&Y/PwC - should note here that the majority of these were in the NYC offices.

In other words, manage expectations. If the prestige of MBB is what you want, location preference is going to take a back seat. Much easier to get McKinsey Pittsburgh or Bain Dallas than either of those firms in say, San Francisco.

Another thing to keep in mind is the longview - if you don't land MBB as an intern, you can try again as a 2nd year. I've met folks at Johnson who landed McKinsey after interning in something other than consulting.
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Those numbers are just for the two years. I only know of a few folks doing a dual degree, and none of them are doing consulting since they don't need a dual degree to do that.
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On the topic of MBB recruitment. Around how many students land MBB offers each year? And how many students get offers from the next tier? The employment website did not give any info on hiring numbers for each company.


For the class of 2014, nine people landed a coveted MBB internship. However, I'll point out that this includes international offices and such glamorous locations such as Cleveland, OH.

26 landed at Accenture/Deloitte/E&Y/PwC - should note here that the majority of these were in the NYC offices.

In other words, manage expectations. If the prestige of MBB is what you want, location preference is going to take a back seat. Much easier to get McKinsey Pittsburgh or Bain Dallas than either of those firms in say, San Francisco.

Another thing to keep in mind is the longview - if you don't land MBB as an intern, you can try again as a 2nd year. I've met folks at Johnson who landed McKinsey after interning in something other than consulting.


Thanks CobraKai, your help is really useful and much appreciated!
As far as you know is there any international student who landed a job at M/B/B in a US office?
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Any R2-ers hear any news today re: scholarship offers?
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Any R2-ers hear any news today re: scholarship offers?



Not yet. Hoping tomorrow's the day

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I received the binder sent via FedEx today.
Only admittance letter is there.

Did anybody receive any response from AdCom when they take a decision on scholarships?
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