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I had 690 on the first MGMAT CAT. I think it was 43 or 44 in Q.


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Congratulations. What was your first MGMAT CAT quant score by the way? I am just curious.


I am getting a flat grade of Q43 in my MGMAT too. I have taken 3 tests so far, Q45, Q43 and another Q43.

You said you would rather work with OG materials bec their style of questions are more elegant and whatnot, but do you think Manhattan GMAT materials prepare you in Math so much so that the actual GMAT will feel easier? Lol. I want to know whether in your opinion, I should still finish the Advanced Quant problem sets, which is another 150 numbers. Or should I just re-do my OG?
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It's very hard to say -- I would hate to lead you down the wrong road.

And what worked for me, or even my opinion on this subject -- might be completely wrong.

The 150 problems are challenging and will help you build your analytical and quant skills -- no doubt about it.

But if you were hard pressed for time (as I was) -- I am not convinced that those hard 150 problems are going to help you the most when it comes to scoring. The GMAT prep problems -- I did only those the last 3 weeks and re-set the software and got several new questions on multiple attempts. Those were the most representative of the real stuff.

It all depends on how much time you have. If time is not an issue -- I would say working through the 150 problems in MGMAT Advanced guide will help you get better. The MGMAT explanations are pretty good too.

But if your test is in 2 or 3 weeks -- don't ignore the GMAT Prep or leave it till the last couple of days (people make this mistake thinking its only 2 tests and not realizing that each test bin has a question bank). GMAT Prep and the last 100 problems in PS and DS sections of the OG beat the rest of the materials out there (in my humble opinion).


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I had 690 on the first MGMAT CAT. I think it was 43 or 44 in Q.


gablaze23 wrote:

Congratulations. What was your first MGMAT CAT quant score by the way? I am just curious.


I am getting a flat grade of Q43 in my MGMAT too. I have taken 3 tests so far, Q45, Q43 and another Q43.

You said you would rather work with OG materials bec their style of questions are more elegant and whatnot, but do you think Manhattan GMAT materials prepare you in Math so much so that the actual GMAT will feel easier? Lol. I want to know whether in your opinion, I should still finish the Advanced Quant problem sets, which is another 150 numbers. Or should I just re-do my OG?
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New post 21 Aug 2011, 17:47
This will be a good subject to get some other points of view.

I am sure there are people on both camps who swear by their experiences. There is one school of thought that says that if you practice on really hard stuff -- then you will ace the easy stuff. I am not so sure about this though. If you practice on really hard stuff -- you might miss the subtlety and minor twists in relatively easier questions (something GMAC does).

It's important to get the easy / medium questions right and make sure you avoid silly mistakes -- this will ensure that you maximize your score. I'm sure there are others who feel differently about this strategy than I do.

For example, I see a number of people on this forum practice LSAT CR and RC questions. I know a bit about the LSAT and although I took it 10 years ago not much has changed on the exam. And most of the guys doing the LSAT CR questions aren't the ones scoring V46 and V48 -- trying to get V51. A lot of the guys doing the LSAT CR and RC questions are the ones scoring V31 and V32 -- hoping that practicing the *tough* stuff from the LSAT is going to improve their score. I would do the exact opposite -- work on fundamentals -- such as finding the conclusion of the argument and understanding the underlying logic -- improving critical reading skills etc.



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but do you think Manhattan GMAT materials prepare you in Math so much so that the actual GMAT will feel easier?

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New post 22 Aug 2011, 23:02
Does the Advanced GMAT Quant Strategy Supplement (Paperback) come with online access.

I just received the delivery of this book purchase by flipkart.com, India, but it did not have the online access code. Now when i spoke to flipkart, they say that the book may not come with an online access. Is that the case? Please let me know.
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New post 22 Aug 2011, 23:07
I am going to begin this book this weekend. Hope I learn lots of things and my strategies get better.


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Does the Advanced GMAT Quant Strategy Supplement (Paperback) come with online access.

I just received the delivery of this book purchase by flipkart.com, India, but it did not have the online access code. Now when i spoke to flipkart, they say that the book may not come with an online access. Is that the case? Please let me know.



No the book does not comes with online access. Only basic 8 guides of Manhattan come with access to tests, the supplement guides do not.
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I am going to begin this book this weekend. Hope I learn lots of things and my strategies get better.

All the best :)

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No the book does not comes with online access. Only basic 8 guides of Manhattan come with access to tests, the supplement guides do not.


Thanks Aj85. just have one more query

What about online access to practice question and bonus drill sets (that is besides the tests) ?
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What about online access to practice question and bonus drill sets (that is besides the tests) ?


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The Advanced GMAT Quant Strategy Guide does not come with access to the 6 Computer Adaptive Tests but it does come with Advanced Quant Practice Questions and an Advanced Quant Bonus Drill Set. See more here: http://www.manhattangmat.com/storeitems ... 0&catid=10

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Asher wrote:
What about online access to practice question and bonus drill sets (that is besides the tests) ?


Asher,

The Advanced GMAT Quant Strategy Guide does not come with access to the 6 Computer Adaptive Tests but it does come with Advanced Quant Practice Questions and an Advanced Quant Bonus Drill Set. See more here: http://www.manhattangmat.com/storeitems ... 0&catid=10

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Thanks Matt.

I wrote to books@manhattangmat.com about the issue, and was granted access to the online material. :-D
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Thanks everyone for the inputs. Just to share my experience on this book I performed surprisingly poor in DS and I went through the chapter on DS and it significantly improved my score. I guess possible reason is I was handling DS questions incorrectly although basics were right. So I found this book really useful.
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I took a diagnostic and got Q39 (and V39). I've been re-learning all the basics that I had forgotten, and am quickly approaching that glass ceiling (just got a Q42 on a practice test after making some silly mistakes). What are my options for breaking through the glass ceiling to eventually reach Q50? I have more than enough time. What are the alternatives to purchasing and using this book in conjunction with, say, GMAT Club tests?
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The key to reaching Q48-49 is to
a.) improve accuracy/timing on DS problems
b.) get a good handle on the frequently tested topics - again to improve timing.

GMATClub tests are very good for this purpose - after 10 or so tests you would see your score crossing Q45 and possibly Q47+.
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Hi guys,

Thanks for all the great advice and reviews. I gave the GMAT on 23rd May and score a 710 (Q49,V38) . I am planning to retake the GMAT in hopes of improving in both sections.Actually i ran out of time in both sections and had to guess in the last 2-3 questions.I will be ordering this book from flipkart and will see if i can improve on my Quant performance.

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Nice review. This is a great book for anyone needing extra help to boost the quantitative section especially those that have their basics right but make mistakes with the tougher questions... It is the absolute best source for DS strategy, which i guess is the most problematic area for most test takers. Not sure whether the two minute per question rule applies to the sets provided in the section but I couldnt finish a lot of the questions within 2 minutes, and without the 2 minute limit i could only manage 65%-70% accuracy.. Overall i find the real value of this book , and the questions associated with it (the sets) in GOING OVER THE SOLUTIONS and solving them after reviewing them in detail.. Great to boost confidence...
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Great review! made my decision to purchase it very easy. I was stuck at around Q42-Q43 for the longest time, and this book takes a lot of the credit for moving me out of that score-range, to a Q50 on gmat day. It teaches you to recognize the traps the quant section is trying to throw at you. While it is hard for any book to test efficiently for tricks and traps after explaining to you every trick and trap for the previous 100 pages, it does a good job of laying bare the types of questions that could be asked at the highest level.

The 150 questions at the end of the book are very very difficult, harder than mostly anything you might see on the gmat, and great practice.
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@ JohnGalt44: Thanks for the input!

Currently standing at Q44 (my score at my first GMAT attempt), I thought that I have to boost my score first to at least Q46/Q48 and then make use of the MGMAT Advanced Quant. Do you think my current level will still be a good moment to start it? I already have it at home, but had jsut postponed the moment to tackle it. Your insight on this matter will be well appreciated.

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I know they have a caveat at the beginning of the book that if you aren't scoring above Q45 or some arbitrary line, you shouldn't use this book. However, as long as you think you have mastered the basics this book could be very very helpful.

I think the difficultly level of the questions is a bit over the top, but that was a good thing for me. It made the actual GMAT questions seem simple in comparison.

In summary, if you feel you are weak in just one area, I would say to focus on that one area first before coming to this book, if you have mastered all the basics, and are looking to apply those basics more productively, then this could be the book for you.

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I would divide the book into two categories, Strategy and Practice. The strategy portion is good for any one who has mastered the concepts that are tested on the GMAT but finds difficulty putting things together (integrating the information to form the "bigger picture")..If you are scoring in the low 40's a lot of the questions in the question sets will be a bit too tough for you to really make a difference, However the strategy portion may help you in some cases. If you are struggling with 650+ DS questions for example, then the DS portion on the book should do you good, as it really talks about advanced strategy for DS which are not covered in many other books. If you are struggling for time, then learning to guess better may help to improve your score. Like the previous poster said, analyze whether their are deficiencies in your overall concept clarity, if not then move to this book, otherwise go over the strategy books again till you have a better grip of the material tested.
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Thanks, guys!

It seems that I should first redo my Quant questions from the error log and understand the concept behind (where needed reread MGMAT Quant guides) and then move to Advanced Quant from MGMAT.

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Practicing GMAT Quant is all about solving a question (or 10 or 20 for example) then challenging oneself to figure out other ways to solve it. Try to solve PS by both traditional algebra etc and by back solving, the more you practice you will get an intuition as to whether a particular question can be solved quicker by strategy A or B. 80+% of the questions in OG can be solved in 2 or more ways, so that really multiples the amount of questions you have in front of you for practice .
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Hi Experts (bb/Bunuel and others),
Could you please help me with this ?

Which one is more difficult (or should I say you'd recommend) to get anything in the range 48-50 on GMAT - GC Quant Tests/Questions or Manhattan's Advanced Quant , when you're under time constraint and subsequently would have to go for either of these two ?

Much appreciate your feedback.
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