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I have come across CR questions in the past where options such as A would be eliminated stating that just because it worked in some country doesn't mean it will work with the country mentioned in the argument. Which is why I eliminated option A.
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

(A) A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year. -Correct. If this move has worked in several countries, then it might prove to be beneficial in the talked about country also.

(B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded. -We are discussing the implementation of the new tax and not about the old tax.

(C) Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive. -Such people will always be there. We need to concentrate on the majority.

(D) The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration. -We are not worried about the support. We need to focus on the reduction in the number of plastic bags because of the implementation of the bill.

(E) The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers. -We are not worried about the collection of tax.
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

(A) A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year. -Correct. If this move has worked in several countries, then it might prove to be beneficial in the talked about country also.

(B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded. -We are discussing the implementation of the new tax and not about the old tax.

(C) Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive. -Such people will always be there. We need to concentrate on the majority.

(D) The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration. -We are not worried about the support. We need to focus on the reduction in the number of plastic bags because of the implementation of the bill.

(E) The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers. -We are not worried about the collection of tax.



HI gmatexam439

I have a small doubt ,
In option A we used analogy of some other country that if some plan worked there , it may work here.
Can we use this analogy - I ignored this only because i solved one assumption ques , which i got correct ,and ignored option E in that ques because it was talking about similar cities and similar legislation etc,... have a look and kindly clear my doubt - i was in impression that for strengthen IF SOME PLAN HAS WORKED IN SOME PLACE - IT IS NOT NECESSARY it will work here .
Similarly - as we know If some data is true for last 10 years - it may not be true for next upcoming years.
Kindly explain...

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gmatexam439 wrote:
Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

(A) A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year. -Correct. If this move has worked in several countries, then it might prove to be beneficial in the talked about country also.

(B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded. -We are discussing the implementation of the new tax and not about the old tax.

(C) Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive. -Such people will always be there. We need to concentrate on the majority.

(D) The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration. -We are not worried about the support. We need to focus on the reduction in the number of plastic bags because of the implementation of the bill.

(E) The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers. -We are not worried about the collection of tax.



HI gmatexam439

I have a small doubt ,
In option A we used analogy of some other country that if some plan worked there , it may work here.
Can we use this analogy - I ignored this only because i solved one assumption ques , which i got correct ,and ignored option E in that ques because it was talking about similar cities and similar legislation etc,... have a look and kindly clear my doubt - i was in impression that for strengthen IF SOME PLAN HAS WORKED IN SOME PLACE - IT IS NOT NECESSARY it will work here .
Similarly - as we know If some data is true for last 10 years - it may not be true for next upcoming years.
Kindly explain...

here is the link - https://gmatclub.com/forum/ten-years-ag ... 99609.html


Hi sahilvijay,

This is not a written rule that analogies are wrong.

Out of 5 options which ever strengthens or weakens the most is the correct answer.

In our question at hand no other option strengthens the argument better than the OA.

Similarly in the question, whose link you posted, the option D is better choice than E because that closes the gap in the argument.

Never assume anything while solving the questions. Always look at all the 5 choices. Always remember that you are looking for 4 wrong choices.

If you read such a rule somewhere i suggest you to scrap that source.

I hope it helped!!
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gmatexam439 wrote:
sahilvijay wrote:
gmatexam439 wrote:
Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

(A) A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year. -Correct. If this move has worked in several countries, then it might prove to be beneficial in the talked about country also.

(B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded. -We are discussing the implementation of the new tax and not about the old tax.

(C) Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive. -Such people will always be there. We need to concentrate on the majority.

(D) The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration. -We are not worried about the support. We need to focus on the reduction in the number of plastic bags because of the implementation of the bill.

(E) The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers. -We are not worried about the collection of tax.



HI gmatexam439

I have a small doubt ,
In option A we used analogy of some other country that if some plan worked there , it may work here.
Can we use this analogy - I ignored this only because i solved one assumption ques , which i got correct ,and ignored option E in that ques because it was talking about similar cities and similar legislation etc,... have a look and kindly clear my doubt - i was in impression that for strengthen IF SOME PLAN HAS WORKED IN SOME PLACE - IT IS NOT NECESSARY it will work here .
Similarly - as we know If some data is true for last 10 years - it may not be true for next upcoming years.
Kindly explain...

here is the link - https://gmatclub.com/forum/ten-years-ag ... 99609.html


Hi sahilvijay,

This is not a written rule that analogies are wrong.

Out of 5 options which ever strengthens or weakens the most is the correct answer.

In our question at hand no other option strengthens the argument better than the OA.

Similarly in the question, whose link you posted, the option D is better choice than E because that closes the gap in the argument.

Never assume anything while solving the questions. Always look at all the 5 choices. Always remember that you are looking for 4 wrong choices.

If you read such a rule somewhere i suggest you to scrap that source.

I hope it helped!!



""I have a doubt with the option "B" and "A". "B" states that financial incentives have not worked as planned; which is eliminating any alternate solution therefore it strengthens the argument. While option "A" states that just because some pattern occurred in other country the same will happen in the given country; which is totally absurd. We can't compare the shopping habits of a person in India with those of a person in Italy""
'

you wrote this para ,which is mentioned above

Kindly explain one more thing- Just like we are assuming a possibility -> if some other country implemented the plan and that plan worked -> this plan will work here.
Cant we think think this way->
B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.
So may be we have seen a small decrease in giving credit of 5 cents ( customer are not bothered by credit may be they will be bothered when they will be debited with tax-> CHANCES are there => what if-- by taxing the plan will succeed....=>
Explain??
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""I have a doubt with the option "B" and "A". "B" states that financial incentives have not worked as planned; which is eliminating any alternate solution therefore it strengthens the argument. While option "A" states that just because some pattern occurred in other country the same will happen in the given country; which is totally absurd. We can't compare the shopping habits of a person in India with those of a person in Italy""
'

you wrote this para ,which is mentioned above

Kindly explain one more thing- Just like we are assuming a possibility -> if some other country implemented the plan and that plan worked -> this plan will work here.
Cant we think think this way->
B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.
So may be we have seen a small decrease in giving credit of 5 cents ( customer are not bothered by credit may be they will be bothered when they will be debited with tax-> CHANCES are there => what if-- by taxing the plan will succeed....=>
Explain??


Hi,

I wrote that statement on 8 May, while my second explanation was written on 2 Nov. While attempting the question on 2 Nov I didn't even remember that I had solved this particular problem earlier. I understood the nuances with time and hence could answer the question correctly later.
--In fact, I noticed my above doubt that you have quoted in red, when you posted your previous post.

As for option B, it can't strengthen the argument. There are 2 reasons for that:
1. Current incentives are out of scope as we are discussing about a plan yet to be implemented.
2. Even if you think that it is in the scope of argument - that I would say you are overthinking - it would weaken the argument. If incentives in past didn't change the nature of the people, there is no guarantee that the future plan will be successful.

Also, you can interpret option B the way you have stated. Thus, you can say that as per the understanding in my point 2 above we can have a negative outcome or as per the understanding stated by you we can have a positive outcome. Since, we can interpret both + and - from the same statement; it can never be a good strengthener.

Albeit, I would say again, option B is out of scope.

My suggestion: Don't overthink on a single option. You should evaluate only the events those are being talked about in the argument.

Again I would say that "you are always searching for 4 wrong choices". Keep that in mind.

I hope this helps !!
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sahilvijay wrote:


""I have a doubt with the option "B" and "A". "B" states that financial incentives have not worked as planned; which is eliminating any alternate solution therefore it strengthens the argument. While option "A" states that just because some pattern occurred in other country the same will happen in the given country; which is totally absurd. We can't compare the shopping habits of a person in India with those of a person in Italy""
'

you wrote this para ,which is mentioned above

Kindly explain one more thing- Just like we are assuming a possibility -> if some other country implemented the plan and that plan worked -> this plan will work here.
Cant we think think this way->
B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.
So may be we have seen a small decrease in giving credit of 5 cents ( customer are not bothered by credit may be they will be bothered when they will be debited with tax-> CHANCES are there => what if-- by taxing the plan will succeed....=>
Explain??


Hi,

I wrote that statement on 8 May, while my second explanation was written on 2 Nov. While attempting the question on 2 Nov I didn't even remember that I had solved this particular problem earlier. I understood the nuances with time and hence could answer the question correctly later.
--In fact, I noticed my above doubt that you have quoted in red, when you posted your previous post.

As for option B, it can't strengthen the argument. There are 2 reasons for that:
1. Current incentives are out of scope as we are discussing about a plan yet to be implemented.
2. Even if you think that it is in the scope of argument - that I would say you are overthinking - it would weaken the argument. If incentives in past didn't change the nature of the people, there is no guarantee that the future plan will be successful.

Also, you can interpret option B the way you have stated. Thus, you can say that as per the understanding in my point 2 above we can have a negative outcome or as per the understanding stated by you we can have a positive outcome. Since, we can interpret both + and - from the same statement; it can never be a good strengthener.

Albeit, I would say again, option B is out of scope.

My suggestion: Don't overthink on a single option. You should evaluate only the events those are being talked about in the argument.

Again I would say that "you are always searching for 4 wrong choices". Keep that in mind.

I hope this helps !!



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