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Ditto with 'A'.Almost all of the official explanations state to eliminate the answer choices which talk about the success/failure of the similar plan in some other region. Again, this should also apply to this question as no where in the question it's mentioned that there is similarity in the behavior/consumer habits in Europe and America.

of late GMAT has been defying almost every statement made by most prep companies. in fact recently a friend of mine took gmat and reported that he was facing questions in which all choices were having "being"!!
as i told u this also perplexed me initially but then we have to select the choice that is best out worst

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C is straight out . C is no where near premise and conclusion . we are talking about "financial incentives" so any choice that is NOT TALKING about financial incentives should be ignored straight way. in fact i did not even glance C more than 5 sec !! most of my time was wasted on breaking the shackles in which A has many times in the past been wrapped ( AS explained above in my first post)
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Still I am not satisfied with the whole question.:)
There is some respite as it is not an official question. Hopefully GMAT will not put us in a such a dilemma.
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Still I am not satisfied with the whole question.:)

is your "non satisfaction" based on the fact that A is defying some set pattern of official answers ,because if that is the case then u will up for surprise as one official question has even defied that pattern !!
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.


I am not satisfied with the official answer. Please provide explanation for the choice you chose.
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These are the questions which sometimes make me doubt my critical reasoning ability:

1> In strengthen questions one can choose an option if the alternative methods to resolve an issue at hand is not resolved (option B)
2> option A says if something happened in A region, we are safe to assume same thing to happen in different part of the world (no reasonable solution but OE)

which one takes the priority? I wish I could search all the questions on veritas question bank to support my first statement but sleepy now!

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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.


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Can someone change the Source of this question to "Veritas"
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I agree with your reasoning , however, the line of reasoning that if certain measures were successful/failure in one region they must be true for the other region stands wrong when talking about failures, specifically. Say, the question asked to weaken the argument and option said that the plan was a failure in 90% of European nations, in that case this will definitely be the wrong answer. In opposite questions this reasoning might be true. While I am not supporting the fact that this will be the best option, however in such scenarios do not eliminate this choice and consider it while comparing to other options you may think stand true. In this case, there is no better option. 'B' follows the exact reasoning I refuted previously that if a plan 'A' is not so successful then its opposite must be successful.
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i selected A in this: A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year

though i took a bit longer time to do this question (3 min 16 sec) . i eliminated all the choice other than A and B (C D and E are easy to eliminate) .i was little wary about A initially because many instructors have noticed this trend that if we are talking about the success of certain plan then the option which specifically talks about the success of that same plan in some other region is not credited as answer . but here i feel this should not be the case because the language of B is giving a tinge of a probable failure of the plan.

B says: Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded----->so indirectly B is suggesting that financial benefits will yield few results if possible, after all out whole argument is standing on the ground that "financial benefits" will give good results to this plan

i strongly believe that had B been (modified B) : Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in large decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded--->then B would have been a contender !!

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honestly there is no scope of such thing with official prep questions .GMAC is always right!! BTW which options were bothering you?
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A for me too


was stuck between A and C.and when i re-read C it said SOME this some won't have that much desired effect than choice A which says 90% .from 10 consumers 9 are not using this choice weakens more than others
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Hi all,
in my 2 cents,option C may even weaken the argument.
We are given that now millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded daily.Saying that "some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive" means even some are already concerned about the environment the number of discard plastic is high;hence,the new policy may not work.

+1 A
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How does A have any bearing how this plan in the US will work out? generally all ACs using examples of other countries, similar events elsewhere etc are wrong in GMAT.

For me there was no correct answer in this question.
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plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

We need to find an evidence or support which proves that plan to tax will be successful, choice A gives an example that similar plan was successful in Europe

CHOICE C - has nothing to do with plan - some( 1- 100) are self-motivated and concerned to reduce the environmental damage, whether any plan exist or doesn't exist is not going to make any change in their motivation level
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A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.
This choice is the best choice through process of elimination and provides an evidence of the success of a similar plan by providing analogy.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.
out of scope and alos does not impact the feasibilty of the plan

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.
the number of customers is limited and are refered as 'some',which does not provide the clear picture of how many customers are concern so not good answer

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.
Out of scope since the support is for the passing of bill not the successfull implementation of the bill.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.
the ease of implementation of the bill does not garentee the success thereofre not a good choice.
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A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.
This choice is the best choice through process of elimination and provides an evidence of the success of a similar plan by providing analogy.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.
out of scope and alos does not impact the feasibilty of the plan

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.
the number of customers is limited and are refered as 'some',which does not provide the clear picture of how many customers are concern so not good answer

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.
Out of scope since the support is for the passing of bill not the successfull implementation of the bill.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.
the ease of implementation of the bill does not garentee the success thereofre not a good choice.

Though I selected A, I'm not fully convinced.
Just because levying tax in Europe has led to s 90% drop in the disposal of plastic bags does NOT mean that the same will necessarily hold true for the United States.


Out of the lot, For the lack of a better choice, I would go with A.
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.


I am not satisfied with the official answer. Please provide explanation for the choice you chose.
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This is a very poor question. If option A can be justified then Option D & E can also be justified by saying that in Option D, the bill can be easily converted into a law and people will have no choice . Similarly in E, if there is a simple effort towards operational costs, retailers will also support the cause.
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.


I am not satisfied with the official answer. Please provide explanation for the choice you chose.
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This is a very poor question. If option A can be justified then Option D & E can also be justified by saying that in Option D, the bill can be easily converted into a law and people will have no choice . Similarly in E, if there is a simple effort towards operational costs, retailers will also support the cause.

A friendly advice: an official question is never poor. In order to have a high score, one must align his / her thinking in line with the official questions, i.e. try to understand why an option is correct or wrong, rather than decide whether an answer is correct or wrong.

A: If a plan has already been successful, there are good chances that it would again be successful. This question is not about conclusion, but about support. If it were an inference type question, the answer would be wrong.

D: Support from a group of people who are not experts in the field does not help determine whether the plan will be effective. If instead of "congress delegations", something like "tax implementation experts" or "social psychology experts" (any group of experts who are capable of determining whether implementation of tax would reduce the usage) were mentioned then the answer would be correct.

E: It does not matter how difficult it is to implement the plan. The argument is about once the plan is implemented, whether it would be effective.
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Advocate: Millions of plastic shopping bags are discarded every day in the United States. Plastic bags present a problem for the environment because they do not readily decompose, but will remain intact for thousands of years. Policy makers agree that the best solution to the problem is to convince people to bring their own shopping bags so that they do not need disposable plastic bags. Therefore, the U.S. government should implement a tax on disposable plastic bags because this will have the desired effect of dramatically decreasing the number of plastic bags discarded each day in the United States.

Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

A)A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

B)Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

C)Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

D)The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

E)The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.


I am not satisfied with the official answer. Please provide explanation for the choice you chose.
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This is a very poor question. If option A can be justified then Option D & E can also be justified by saying that in Option D, the bill can be easily converted into a law and people will have no choice . Similarly in E, if there is a simple effort towards operational costs, retailers will also support the cause.

A friendly advice: an official question is never poor. In order to have a high score, one must align his / her thinking in line with the official questions, i.e. try to understand why an option is correct or wrong, rather than decide whether an answer is correct or wrong.

A: If a plan has already been successful, there are good chances that it would again be successful. This question is not about conclusion, but about support. If it were an inference type question, the answer would be wrong.

D: Support from a group of people who are not experts in the field does not help determine whether the plan will be effective. If instead of "congress delegations", something like "tax implementation experts" or "social psychology experts" (any group of experts who are capable of determining whether implementation of tax would reduce the usage) were mentioned then the answer would be correct.

E: It does not matter how difficult it is to implement the plan. The argument is about once the plan is implemented, whether it would be effective.

If I follow the reasoning given by you on D & E, I can counter option A also in the same way. "Anything which has worked in one country will work in another country" The logic behind this statement is not convincing <consumerism in different markets is different and is based on cultural influences). Many official questions I have practiced before, have used the same reasoning to discard several wrong answers in many cases. I do not wish to argue but I think if something is logically not sound we should admit it rather than defending the source.
But I really appreciate your response. I will try to align my thinking the GMAT way , for such questions also.
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Which of the following provides the strongest reason to believe that the plan to levy a tax on disposable plastic bags will be successful in greatly reducing the number of plastic bags being discarded?

(A) A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year.

(B) Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded.

(C) Some customers are very concerned about the environmental impacts of plastic bags and will bring reusable bags without any financial incentive.

(D) The bill has substantial support with the Congressional delegations of many states and with the current administration.

(E) The bill could be implemented and the tax collected using a very simple addition to the programming of electronic cash registers.

VERITAS PREP OFFICIAL SOLUTION:



Correct Answer: A

The correct answer will provide direct support for the claim that the tax on disposable bags will be successful in reducing the number of plastic bags discarded. Choice A is the correct answer because it provides an analogous situation where the tax was successful in reducing the number of plastic bags discarded. When the tax was implemented in Europe, it achieved the desired result so is likely that the same plan will succeed in the United States. The other choices are irrelevant or address aspects other than the probable success of the plan. Choices B and C are not central to the argument as they discuss the effectiveness of the current programs in the United States rather than the proposed tax. Choice D does not speak to the probable success of plan, only to the likelihood of it being adopted. Choice E indicates that the plan is feasible, but again this is different from the plan having the intended result.
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i selected A in this: A similar tax in several European countries resulted in a 90% decrease in the number of plastic bags used by consumers each year

though i took a bit longer time to do this question (3 min 16 sec) . i eliminated all the choice other than A and B (C D and E are easy to eliminate) .i was little wary about A initially because many instructors have noticed this trend that if we are talking about the success of certain plan then the option which specifically talks about the success of that same plan in some other region is not credited as answer . but here i feel this should not be the case because the language of B is giving a tinge of a probable failure of the plan.

B says: Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in only a small decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded----->so indirectly B is suggesting that financial benefits will yield few results if possible, after all out whole argument is standing on the ground that "financial benefits" will give good results to this plan

i strongly believe that had B been (modified B) : Current incentives, such as crediting customers 5 or 10 cents for each reusable bag, have resulted in large decrease in the number of plastic bags discarded--->then B would have been a contender !!

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honestly there is no scope of such thing with official prep questions .GMAC is always right!! BTW which options were bothering you?

I have a doubt with the option "B" and "A". "B" states that financial incentives have not worked as planned; which is eliminating any alternate solution therefore it strengthens the argument. While option "A" states that just because some pattern occurred in other country the same will happen in the given country; which is totally absurd. We can't compare the shopping habits of a person in India with those of a person in Italy.
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