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New post 11 May 2018, 02:09
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- X and Y, who - refers to the compound noun x and y both together and not just Y. Look at the following examples. The first one is logically wrong because the modifier who would later make his reputation as a labor leader modifies both of them

However, the second one is correct since who qualifies one of them namely Philip only and the other entity Chandler has been relegated to the end after the modification is over.


1.Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph and Chandler Owen, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.


2.Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

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Since the first two answers have commas, should I assume answers C, D, and E do not have a comma when used in the sentence?
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I already see some great discussion about this question, so let's tackle this question one issue at a time to come up with the correct answer! To get started, here is the original question with important differences between each option highlighted in orange:

Although a number of excellent studies narrate the development of domestic technology and its impact on housewifery, these works do not discuss the contributions of the women employed by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers.

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists,
(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies,
(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies
(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products
(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products

Right away, a couple major issues jump out at me that we must address:

1. Each option's ending = finding the right antecedent for the modifier phrase "who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers."
2. Use of the pronoun "their" in options C, D, and E

Let's start with #1 on our list. Since the sentence ends with a modifier phrase, we MUST make sure it's being paired up with the correct antecedent. Here is each option with the ending added on. This will helps us figure out which options have a problem.

Remember, to find the correct antecedent, you need to ask yourself the question "WHO initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers?" The answer? The product demonstrators and publicists! Let's see how each answer stacks up:

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. --> OK

(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. --> WRONG

This says the companies promoted technology, which isn't true - the demonstrators and publicists did! It's also not grammatically correct to have the word "who" refer to non-humans, including collective nouns like "companies."

(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. --> WRONG

This option has a few problems:
It is incorrectly saying the companies promoted technology, not the people hired as demonstrators and publicists.
Also, it's not okay to use "who" to refer to collective nouns such as "companies."
The lack of comma at the end is also a problem. It turns the phrase, "who initially promoted..." into an essential clause, rather than a modifier. Without the comma, it's telling readers that these women were only hired by companies that initially promoted technology to women, which is unnecessarily specific.

(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. --> WRONG

This option is incorrect because the modifier is referring to the word "products," which doesn't make sense. First, the word "who" cannot refer to non-human objects. Second, the products didn't promote technology to women - that doesn't make logical sense. The products aren't going door-to-door by themselves!

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. --> WRONG

This option is incorrect for the same reason as option D - the word "who" cannot refer to non-human objects, such as the word "products."

There you go - option A is the CORRECT answer because the modifier has a clear and correct antecedent!

I know some of you may have started with #2 on our list (proper use of the pronoun "their"), here is how each answer would break down:

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, --> OK (no pronoun to deal with)

(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies, --> OK (no pronoun to deal with)

(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies --> WRONG (In this case, the pronoun "their" is referring back to the women, which isn't accurate. The women weren't hired to demonstrate and publicize their own products - they were hired to demonstrate and publicize the companies' products!)

(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products --> WRONG (In this case, it's not absolutely clear what the pronoun "their" is referring to - the women who were hired, the companies who made the products, or some other group we don't know about?)

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products --> WRONG (Again, it's not absolutely clear what "their" is referring to - the companies or the women who were hired? If it's not 100% clear, it's probably not the correct option.)

Once you've done this, you're left with options A & B. You can go back to #1 on the list and see that option B is wrong because the modifier isn't referring to the right antecedent, so you'd still end up with option A as your final answer!


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Here’s the sentence structure:

Although a number of excellent studies narrate (Dependent clause presenting a contrast to the main clause. Subject: a number of excellent studies; Verb: narrate)
the development of domestic technology (First object of the verb ‘narrate’)
and its impact on housewifery, (Second object of the verb ‘narrate’)
these works do not discuss the contributions of the women (Main Clause. Subject: these works; Verb: do not discuss)
employed (Verb-ed modifier modifying ‘women’)
by manufacturers and utility companies (prepositional phrase modifying ‘employed’)
as product demonstrators and publicists, (prepositional phrase modifying ‘employed’)
who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers. (relative clause modifying ‘product demonstrators and publicists’. Subject: who; Verb: promoted)
The sentence says that even though several studies talk about certain things (the development of domestic technology and its impact on housewifery), they do not discuss certain other things (contributions of certain women). Which women? Women employed by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists.

As is, the sentence looks fine.
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Although a number of excellent studies narrate the development of domestic technology and its impact on housewifery, these works do not discuss the contributions of the women employed by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers.

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists,

(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies,

(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies

(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products

Limiting to the relevance of the pronoun 'their':

If there is any doubt, whether the pronoun 'their' in C, D and E can refer to 'women's', try this age-old test. Replace 'their' with 'women's' and see how appropriate the replacement is.

C) to demonstrate and publicize the women's products by manufacturers and utility companies


(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of the women's products

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize the women's products


Are the manufacturers and companies employing the women to demonstrate the women's products or the companies own products?

The companies are not employing the women to publicize the women's products in general but their products created by upgraded technologies. Therefore, by no logic can we take that 'their' stands for 'women's.'

C and E are wrong for the incompatibility of the relative pronoun 'who' to refer to companies and products.

In the case of D, one might debate that the word ( who without a comma) may still refer to the demonstrators and publicists, but yet, D can be accused of the unidiomatic 'employed to be' rather than the conventional 'employed as'
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Let's make some backend calculation. The relative pronoun 'who" cannot refer to anything other than humans and only A has humans as demonstrators and publicists. Therefore, A.



"who" refers to "women" not to "demonstrators and publicists"
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One more reason to eliminate B C D E

We use "as" to show a function or a position.

Example- She works as a teacher.
The other choices use "to be" and it is incorrect IMHO.


Although a number of excellent studies narrate the development of domestic technology and its impact on housewifery, these works do not discuss the contributions of the women employed by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers.

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists,

(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies,

(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies

(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products
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Although a number of excellent studies narrate the development of domestic technology and its impact on housewifery, these works do not discuss the contributions of the women employed by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists, who initially promoted new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers.

(A) by manufacturers and utility companies as product demonstrators and publicists,

(B) to be product demonstrators and publicists by manufacturers and utility companies,

(C) to demonstrate and publicize their products by manufacturers and utility companies

(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of their products

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize their products

Limiting to the relevance of the pronoun 'their':

If there is any doubt, whether the pronoun 'their' in C, D and E can refer to 'women's', try this age-old test. Replace 'their' with 'women's' and see how appropriate the replacement is.

C) to demonstrate and publicize the women's products by manufacturers and utility companies


(D) by manufacturers and utility companies to be demonstrators and publicists of the women's products

(E) by manufacturers and utility companies to demonstrate and publicize the women's products


Are the manufacturers and companies employing the women to demonstrate the women's products or the companies own products?

The companies are not employing the women to publicize the women's products in general but their products created by upgraded technologies. Therefore, by no logic can we take that 'their' stands for 'women's.'

C and E are wrong for the incompatibility of the relative pronoun 'who' to refer to companies and products.

In the case of D, one might debate that the word ( who without a comma) may still refer to the demonstrators and publicists, but yet, D can be accused of the unidiomatic 'employed to be' rather than the conventional 'employed as'


Hello daagh

Below is my reasoning why I think the usage of 'their' is ambiguous in options C, D, and E, please correct if there's flaw in my thinking. I also understand that these options are wrong for other reasons as well.

These 'few women' mentioned in the original sentence could very well have been important figures or persons or wives of important people, and the manufacturers and utility companies could have used them as brand ambassador's to promote 'their own' products at start thinking that these women and their influential image would then help them in promoting new and unfamiliar technology to female consumers.

For example, L'Oreal employing Aishwarya Rai to promote 'her own' new line of shampoo or fragrance (just spitballing here !) because that in turn would drive the sales of their other products among Ms. Aishwarya Rai's female fans/ consumers. Something on these lines..

Isn't this thought process logical, lets say to an extent, and gives the options C, D, and E some air of ambiguity?

Hope I am able to clearly show my thought process in the spur of the moment question solving time and also what I am trying to say.


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The 'few women' are your creation, it looks, while the original doesn't say 'few'.
The very idea is to talk of these thousands of women who silently dedicated their labor for the success of the newly introduced merchandise. They are not the celebrity appealers like the heroes of the cine world. The demonstrators and publicists are mostly hourly or daily hired people and do not get even a fracttion of the huge endorsement fee the celebrities take.

The core of the passage is to glorify the work of these poor souls. Don't you know that "blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"

However why would L' Oreal want to promote Aishwarya's own products in the place of its own products? What will happen if the regular buyers of L'Oreal start replacing with Aishwarya's products? I don't get the commercial idea behind the suggestion.

Back to our SC topic, the third dimension of 'their' draws valuable time on wrong choices unnecessarily.
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