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Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.

a). imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
b). imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
c). that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
d). that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, and spending
e). that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending

I see such constructions very often, but still cant crack them correctly, do you know the trick, the rule or sm else that can help in such questions? ?[/quote]

It is all about parallelism and modifiers,
C or E
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Only E is the best choice.
Rest all choices illogically suggest that plans spend less time with each instead of the doctor spending less time with patients.
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Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.

a). imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
b). imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
c). that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
d). that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, and spending
e). that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending

I see such constructions very often, but still cant crack them correctly, do you know the trick, the rule or sm else that can help in such questions? ?


pls change the (D) choice.................and should not be there

D. that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending

In this case............(D) is the best
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Can someone explain whats the correct usage?

OA according to the Brutal SC post is D. which I feel is wrong?

Does anyone has a better explanation ??
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I would go with option D

A and B are clearly rejected, we are left with C, D and E.
the second part of the sentence gives 2 the features of the insurance plan:
- Imposing stricter limits on medical services
- require doctors to see more patients.
because seeing more patients in less time indicates spending less time with each, we don't need to separate the two by 'and' because they invariably mean the same.
So, the 2 features are separated by 'and' and the following by a comma.

Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending less time with each.
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Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.
(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending


E is wrong because it reads as if its the stricter limits on medical services that are requiring doctors to see more patients versus D, which is correct, distinguish that its the lower end insurance plans that require doctors to see more patients. I didn't get it at first after carefully reading it I was able to see where the problem lies.
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Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.
(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending


Low-end Insurance plans only impose stricter limits, however it cannot command doctor to see more patients or less. All the above tells the same except for E, which says that due to stricter limits and not due to low end insurance plans, doctors have to see more patients Similarly, it is not Insurance plans that spend less time, but its the doctor who spends less time.

Hence, IMO E.
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Hi,
here 'that impose' is better than 'imposing' as 'that' relates to the word immediately preceding it
therefore A and B are out....

now there are 3 activities


a)impose stricter limits on medical services
b) require doctors to see more patients, and
c)spend less time with each.
in these a and b are independent and c is dependent on b....

C makes all a ,b ,c independent...... E makes b and c dependent on a..
only D makes a and b independent and c dependent on b.. therefore D is the ans...
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IMO E

to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans THAT impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending less time with each.

THAT refers to lower-end insurance plans
pariticiple phrase - requiring.....and spending...... modifies the verb phrase impose stricter limits.
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tejal777 wrote:
Could somebody please explain why exactly is A akward??Stuck between A and D:(

I think it is a classic case of "command subjunctive". Impose and Require are BOSSY words, which always require word "that" in the sentence. A is wrong as it lacks the word "that". :)

Also the use of -ing participle "imposing" wrongly suggests that union/nonunion members are imposing the stricter norms than the insurance plans. One more reason to strike out A.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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got stucked between C and D.

on one side C. parallels impose, require and spend.

On the other side, D. implies a diferent meaning for the setence. Ie the lower end insurance plan that i) impose stricter limits on medical services and ii) require doctors to see more patiants, and spending ....
Spending is modifying doctor, which seems correct but for me the problem is with "and".
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Option C - Incorrect...lower-end insurance plans that impose..., require.... and spend....you see insurance plans do not spend less time ...so this is an incorrect modification.

Option D - Best IMHO

Option E - Incorrect because....lower-end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spend ('spending' is incorrect)... less time with ...

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option E is clearly out....because though it seems to be parallel it is actually not.


it would be correct, if it were: requiring doctors to see more patients and to spend less time with each.

"requiring doctors to see....and spending less....." is not parallel in any way.


So D is correct.

The download available for brutal70 has incorrect question. The question discussed here and the one in the download have differing option D. I got it wrong because of that...i just realized :wtf: :wtf:
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I would go with option D

A and B are clearly rejected, we are left with C, D and E.
the second part of the sentence gives 2 the features of the insurance plan:
- Imposing stricter limits on medical services
- require doctors to see more patients.
because seeing more patients in less time indicates spending less time with each, we don't need to separate the two by 'and' because they invariably mean the same.
So, the 2 features are separated by 'and' and the following by a comma.

Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending less time with each.



Nice explanation.

Would A be correct if the comma in "requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend" is removed?

I don't see why "that" is required here.



Hi,

'That' is required because we are talking about the plan and its effects.
that/which should modify plan here and not the ongoing action or the subject

Therefore,
union member enroll in plans that/which impose

And not

union members enroll in plans imposing...... ==> union members are imposing
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(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending


Spending less time with each is a modifying clause that modifies doctors.
If we use and spend/spending above meaning is lost, and the sentence assumes the below form:-
1.Investment plans impose stricter limits on medical services
2.Investment plans require doctors to see more patients
3.Investment plans spend less time with each. completely nonsensical.
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Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.

Separate out the choice in two groups - imposing and that impose. straight away "imposing" is out. We are left with C, D & E

Not parallel. ... insurance plans that - impose ........, require ......., and spend - impose this, require that and spend (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend

insurance plans are only doing two things - impose stricter limits and require docs to see more patients (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending

Requiring and spending might look parallel at first look, but look again. Stricter limits are requiring docs to see more patients (good). Stricter limits are spending less time with each (incorrect) (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending
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Wrong use of "imposing", the use of "that" is need to add a clause to the sentence. Eliminate
(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending

Note that "impose" and "require" should be parallel because that's what the insurance plan is doing. Eliminate:
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending

Doctors spending less time with each patient is a modifying phrase to the requirement to see more of them. "Spending" should be use. Eliminate
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend

Ans D

(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
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Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.

(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending

I choose "C" but it is incorrect please explain the correct answer


I think D should be the right one here. If You had selected D, one can split the sentence as below
Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending less time with each.

I think spending less time with each was used to refer the Non Union workers as a differentiation factor with union workers. Doctors spending less time with each patient isn't relevant in this context of Union workers and Non Union workers and hence shouldn't be the case
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sreehari1250 wrote:
Among lower- paid workers, union members are less likely than non union members to be enrolled in lower- end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.

(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend
(B) imposing stricter limits on medical services , requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending
(C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend
(D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending
(E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending

I choose "C" but it is incorrect please explain the correct answer


IMO E
anyone know the source of the question?
it all depends on the meaning, which can only be extracted from the context (ie in what way is the sentence used....)

i find the context problem an issue with a lot of the harder SC gmat questions....ie the way you interpret the question affects your answer....specifically: -

A B eliminate coz we need that
C eliminate because if parallel, the insurance plans spend time on patinets which is not logical
for D and E the context issue comes up....
IMO E is more logical because the insurance plans impose limits and the results (ie -ING) are requiring and spending.....
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Ok, lets compare choices D and E.

lower- end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending less time with each.
or
lower- end insurance plans that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending less time with each.

How do you decide whether the participial modifier in E modifies "insurance plans" (i.e. illogical conclusion that insurance plans are spending less time) but D does not do so.
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