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Can you help me with correct reasoning for B and D?

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Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the conclusion of the argument?
I need to find an evident that makes claim more believable.

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Brown tides are growths of algae on the sea's surface that prevent sunlight from reaching marine plants below, thereby destroying not only the plants but also the shellfish that live off these plants. Biologists recently isolated a virus that, when added to seawater, kills the algae that cause brown tides. Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides will therefore make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.
Conclusion marker: Therefore.
It is possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.
Premise:
Adding large quantities of virus to waters kills algae.

What else I know:
Algae feed on plants on which shellfish feed.
So I if I kill algae with virus, then there will be more food for shellfish to survive on, and hence we can save more of shellfish.

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B. Marine animals that prey on shellfish avoid areas of the sea in which brown tides are occurring.
Can I rephrase this as: Marine animals that prey on shellfish shall go to areas of the sea in which brown tides are absent.
Now if virus kills algae and then the animals that prey on shellfish will be more, decreasing shellfish population.
This is opposite to what I am looking for.
Please help if there is better way of approach for this choice.

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D. The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.
I guess I ran swiftly through: Adding large quantities in premise that made me ignore this choice.
However what this choice does is to prevent the claim from being disrupted (i.e. why shellfish will survive) IN SPITE OF
using large quantities that will kill algae but not affect plants on which shellfish feed on.
Am I correct?
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Hello, adkikani. There are a few points in your post that I would like to touch on (below).

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Can you help me with correct reasoning for B and D?

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Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the conclusion of the argument?
I need to find an evident that makes claim more believable.

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Brown tides are growths of algae on the sea's surface that prevent sunlight from reaching marine plants below, thereby destroying not only the plants but also the shellfish that live off these plants. Biologists recently isolated a virus that, when added to seawater, kills the algae that cause brown tides. Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides will therefore make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.
Conclusion marker: Therefore.
It is possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.
Premise:
Adding large quantities of virus to waters kills algae.
Fine up to this point.

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What else I know:
Algae feed on plants on which shellfish feed.
So I if I kill algae with virus, then there will be more food for shellfish to survive on, and hence we can save more of shellfish.
Careful. This part is NOT something you can deduce from the passage, which says nothing about the feeding habits of algae. That is, we are not told that algae compete with shellfish for food, but that growths of algae on the surface of the water block sunlight, thereby killing marine plants under the surface that depend on that sunlight. This type of fine point might not make a difference in this question, but it certainly could in another CR question. Misinterpretations or leaps in logic cause people to miss CR questions with a higher frequency. Just stick to exactly what the passage says, and you will be much less likely to get creative.

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B. Marine animals that prey on shellfish avoid areas of the sea in which brown tides are occurring.
Can I rephrase this as: Marine animals that prey on shellfish shall go to areas of the sea in which brown tides are absent.
Now if virus kills algae and then the animals that prey on shellfish will be more, decreasing shellfish population.
This is opposite to what I am looking for.
Please help if there is better way of approach for this choice.
No, you understood this weakener perfectly. We are not trying to show how the shellfish population would suffer if the brown tides were dispersed, but to show how the population would be saved even after brown tides had been present.

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D. The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.
I guess I ran swiftly through: Adding large quantities in premise that made me ignore this choice.
However what this choice does is to prevent the claim from being disrupted (i.e. why shellfish will survive) IN SPITE OF
using large quantities that will kill algae but not affect plants on which shellfish feed on.
Am I correct?
Yes, this is another correct interpretation. Do not be afraid to slow your approach somewhat to process how the answer choices align or do not align with the information presented in the passage. Accuracy first. Speed can follow.

Good luck with your studies, and thank you for having tagged me (to be a little more proper, and in keeping with our Michelangelo dialogue from yesterday).

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Brown tides are growths of algae on the sea's surface that prevent sunlight from reaching marine plants below, thereby destroying not only the plants but also the shellfish that live off these plants. Biologists recently isolated a virus that, when added to seawater, kills the algae that cause brown tides. Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides will therefore make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.

Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the conclusion of the argument?


A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae. -- Weakening

B. Marine animals that prey on shellfish avoid areas of the sea in which brown tides are occurring. -- Doesn't matter since the shellfish anyways get killed by the brown tides algae

C. The number of different kinds of virus present in seawater is far greater than many marine biologists had, until recently, believed. -- Out-of-scope. The current virus presence is not at issue here

D. The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants. -- CORRECT, this answer option says that other than killing brown tide algae, the virus won't cause any harm

E. The amount of the virus naturally present in seawater in which brown tides occur is neither significantly greater nor significantly less than the amount present in seawater in which brown tides do not occur. -- This speaks nothing about the introduction of the particular algae killing virus species. IRRELEVANT

So, answer is D
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VeritasPrepHailey Mam Kindly guide for this question...I marked answer choice B as I thought that if virus kills algae and then the animals that prey on shellfish will be more, decreasing shellfish population.
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parkhydel Buddy Please correct the question type tag also its a strengthen question and not an inference question
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Conclusion: Adding large quantities of this virus in brown tides -> will save the populations of shellfish in brown tides


What did we learn:
1) what saves the shellfish population: Marine plants
2) what is harmful for shellfish population: brown tides

Pre-thinking:

1) To save the populations of shellfish, we need something that kills the brown tides but that does not adversely effect the Marine plants.

Option D: The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.
This option clearly falls with our reasoning.

Buddy I do not agree wit your reasoning point 1 that marine plants are saving shellfish population......

D is our answer.
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I do like following OG answer:

A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.

But also what ? Salvage, destroy, feed ? :)
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I do like following OG answer:

A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.

But also what ? Salvage, destroy, feed ? :)
Wow, talk about a facepalm moment. Nice catch, Mike20201. That kills should definitely precede the not only. I guess this is a case in which one hand did not talk to the other, and a grammatical error appeared in the OE of an SC question of all places. Edit: Just realized you were not referencing the OE, but simply the answer choice itself. Anyway, still a good catch, a subtlety that tests knowledge of an idiomatic construct and the meaning it conveys.

Thank you for pointing it out. Others can appreciate the distinction, and more and more of us will feel in on the joke.

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Hi AndrewN sir,

A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.

What's your intake on A?
I understand 2nd part(red part) doesn't add force to our strengthening claim especially when D is present that directly impacts our conclusion. Undoubtedly D is best answer here.

What would you suggest in general- to keep such options on hold in 1st reading , avoiding selection and striking off?
in Official GMAT world, such options would rarely be correct ( based on your experience ) , or we never know such option could be only best option?

Please give your suggestions.

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Hi AndrewN sir,

A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.

What's your intake on A?
I understand 2nd part(red part) doesn't add force to our strengthening claim especially when D is present that directly impacts our conclusion. Undoubtedly D is best answer here.

What would you suggest in general- to keep such options on hold in 1st reading , avoiding selection and striking off?
in Official GMAT world, such options would rarely be correct ( based on your experience ) , or we never know such option could be only best option?

Please give your suggestions.

Thanks!
Hello, mSKR. The first part of (A) checks out against the information in the last two lines of the passage. Of course, the problem starts with but, but if the first part looked good enough to you and you were uncertain about the latter part, sure, you could leave (A) alone while you checked other answers for more glaring problems. It is only in a subsequent pass of the answer choices that you would need to get into the finer details, provided you had not burned off four answers to begin with. Such an approach can help you work through questions efficiently, with an added bonus that you may also find that your confidence increases. (Rather than spend a lot of time qualifying or disqualifying each answer choice, one by one, you can burn off what you know is incorrect and then work with the rest, putting less stress on your mind.)

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Let’s look at the premises and the conclusion of the given argument.

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Brown tides are growths of algae on the sea's surface that prevent sunlight from reaching marine plants below, thereby destroying not only the plants but also the shellfish that live off these plants.
Biologists recently isolated a virus that, when added to seawater, kills the algae that cause brown tides.

Conclusion

Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides will therefore make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.

We need to find an option that supports the conclusion.

A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.
Option A tells why adding large quantities of this virus can be problematic- because it kills many harmless kinds of algae too. Definitely doesn’t support the conclusion. Eliminate.

B. Marine animals that prey on shellfish avoid areas of the sea in which brown tides are occurring.
The conclusion is limited to - Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters. Option B is irrelevant to the conclusion. Eliminate.

C. The number of different kinds of virus present in seawater is far greater than many marine biologists had, until recently, believed.
Again, doesn’t support the conclusion. Irrelevant. Eliminate.

D. The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.
The stimulus says-
The growth of algae blocks sunlight from reaching marine plants. Shellfish feed on marine plants. Plan- Add virus to kill the algae that cause brown tides

If the presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not negatively affect the growth of marine plants, then we have all the more reasons to add large quantities of this virus to waters to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.
Correct.

E. The amount of the virus naturally present in seawater in which brown tides occur is neither significantly greater nor significantly less than the amount present in seawater in which brown tides do not occur.
Irrelevant. Eliminate.


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Brown tides are growths of algae on the sea's surface that prevent sunlight from reaching marine plants below, thereby destroying not only the plants but also the shellfish that live off these plants. Biologists recently isolated a virus that, when added to seawater, kills the algae that cause brown tides. Adding large quantities of this virus to waters affected by brown tides will therefore make it possible to save the populations of shellfish that inhabit those waters.

Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the conclusion of the argument?


A. When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.

B. Marine animals that prey on shellfish avoid areas of the sea in which brown tides are occurring.

C. The number of different kinds of virus present in seawater is far greater than many marine biologists had, until recently, believed.

D. The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.

E. The amount of the virus naturally present in seawater in which brown tides occur is neither significantly greater nor significantly less than the amount present in seawater in which brown tides do not occur.



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Hello Experts!

I have a confusion between A and D.

A says When applied in large quantities, the virus not only kills the algae that cause brown tides but also many harmless kinds of algae.
From the discussion on the forum, I have understood that we want to point out that this "harmless" algae could still be important for the ecosystem of the plants on which shellfish survive, or the shellfish itself. OKAY! but this is an assumption we have made to strike off this answer choice, it is not mentioned anywhere in the premise or the answer choice.

B The presence of large quantities of the virus in seawater does not adversely affect the growth of marine plants.
How come this is acceptable? This answer choice clearly says it doesn't adversely affect the growth of marine plants, adversely is not too much damage or something we can't really quantify. But generally it is talking about damage (may be a 10% damage). This answer choice is clearly saying there is damage on marine plants while in A we are assuming there could be damage. Then how is this better over A?

Please help with this.
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