It is currently 21 Sep 2017, 12:42

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Close

Request Expert Reply

Confirm Cancel

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 06 May 2015
Posts: 27

Kudos [?]: 11 [0], given: 315

Location: United States
Concentration: Operations, Other
GPA: 3.39
Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 08 Oct 2015, 15:17
Not X but Y
for A, found the noise not continuous but......
and
for C, found the noise not to be continuous but.......
the gaps need an adjective (e.g but hollow), to maintain parallelism

Kudos [?]: 11 [0], given: 315

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 12 Jan 2015
Posts: 223

Kudos [?]: 72 [0], given: 79

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 22 Feb 2016, 23:29
Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh,

Can you please explain when can we omit the usage of "THAT".
As mentioned by someone --
He said that he was tired. No need for "that"---> Is it correct.

How can we identify weather in a particular sentence we use THAT" or not..??
I always get inclined towards sentences which uses "THAT" but have come across sentences in which the usage of "THAT" is not MANDATE.

see this sentence--

Scientists have found signs that moving water changed the chemical makeup of the surface of Mars in recent
eras, therefore concluding that its crust is harboring up to three times as much water than was previously
thought.

Ans- eras and have therefore concluded that the planet's crust harbors up to three times as much water as

As we see the non-underlined portioned have found signs its not have found THAT

Can you please assist. Its really confusing
_________________

Thanks and Regards,
Prakhar

Kudos [?]: 72 [0], given: 79

Expert Post
Math Forum Moderator
avatar
P
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Posts: 4909

Kudos [?]: 5227 [0], given: 112

Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 23 Feb 2016, 01:23
Expert's post
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
PrakharGMAT wrote:
Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh,

Can you please explain when can we omit the usage of "THAT".
As mentioned by someone --
He said that he was tired. No need for "that"---> Is it correct.

How can we identify weather in a particular sentence we use THAT" or not..??
I always get inclined towards sentences which uses "THAT" but have come across sentences in which the usage of "THAT" is not MANDATE.

see this sentence--

Scientists have found signs that moving water changed the chemical makeup of the surface of Mars in recent
eras, therefore concluding that its crust is harboring up to three times as much water than was previously
thought.

Ans- eras and have therefore concluded that the planet's crust harbors up to three times as much water as

As we see the non-underlined portioned have found signs its not have found THAT

Can you please assist. Its really confusing


Hi,
If we talk in particular to requirement of that after 'found'..
here it matters what are you stressing on..
a team of scientists found that the noise was not..
the stress is on finding noise illogically,
but a team of scientists found that the noise was not..
here the stress is on finding what has been mentioned in the entire clause after that..


we can say-
He found a doctor in the clininc.. is different from
He found that a doctor was in the clinic..

On your sentence--
Scientists have found signs that moving water changed.
here the stress is on finding signs and WHAT are these signs is implied by THAT and the clause thereafter..

USAGE of THAT--
you can OMIT that after common reporting verb such as said, thought w/o change in meaning..
but after certain verbs such as replied, threatened etc, you can not omit THAT..
If a sentence does not use THAT in first place, then its a different case..
example- he replied to me.
but He replied that he is hungry -- cannot be written as-- He replied he is hungry..

there are various other rule on use of THAT, but these are the rules pertaining to this Q

_________________

Absolute modulus :http://gmatclub.com/forum/absolute-modulus-a-better-understanding-210849.html#p1622372
Combination of similar and dissimilar things : http://gmatclub.com/forum/topic215915.html

Kudos [?]: 5227 [0], given: 112

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 12 Jan 2015
Posts: 223

Kudos [?]: 72 [0], given: 79

Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 23 Feb 2016, 01:45
Hi chetan2u,

In your examples
He found a doctor in the clininc.. is different from
He found that a doctor was in the clinic..

And

He replied that he is hungry -- cannot be written as-- He replied he is hungry..

Somehow I am able to relate what are trying to tell about the difference in sentence.
Can you please shed some more light..
_________________

Thanks and Regards,
Prakhar

Kudos [?]: 72 [0], given: 79

Manager
Manager
avatar
B
Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 131

Kudos [?]: 27 [0], given: 368

GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member
Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 30 Aug 2016, 09:38
Verbal Experts, Please help
Option B : digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
How is "WAS NOT continuous " parallel to "CONSISTED".

I thought that consisted is a modifier for the subject noise .

Please reply!

Thanks
_________________

Feel Free to Press Kudos if you like the way I think :).

Kudos [?]: 27 [0], given: 368

Top Contributor
1 KUDOS received
Director
Director
User avatar
B
Status: I don't stop when I'm Tired,I stop when I'm done
Joined: 11 May 2014
Posts: 569

Kudos [?]: 2404 [1], given: 220

Location: Bangladesh
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GPA: 2.81
WE: Business Development (Real Estate)
By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Aug 2016, 00:15
1
This post received
KUDOS
Top Contributor
maybeam wrote:
By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not
(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be
(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be




By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not ------------->Suspect without"that"after "found"
(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not ----------> Correct
(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be ------------->NOT+to be +BUT+Verb,NOT paralleled
(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not ---------------->parallel error
(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be ----------------->parallel error
_________________

Md. Abdur Rakib

Please Press +1 Kudos,If it helps
Sentence Correction-Collection of Ron Purewal's "elliptical construction/analogies" for SC Challenges

Kudos [?]: 2404 [1], given: 220

Top Contributor
Director
Director
User avatar
B
Status: I don't stop when I'm Tired,I stop when I'm done
Joined: 11 May 2014
Posts: 569

Kudos [?]: 2404 [0], given: 220

Location: Bangladesh
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GPA: 2.81
WE: Business Development (Real Estate)
Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Aug 2016, 00:26
Top Contributor
282552 wrote:
Verbal Experts, Please help
Option B : digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
How is "WAS NOT continuous " parallel to "CONSISTED".

I thought that consisted is a modifier for the subject noise .

Please reply!

Thanks


IMO,
    "WAS NOT continuous " need not to be paralleled to "CONSISTED".Here,first portion is just a negative statement

Thanks.

Let me know if I missed anything
_________________

Md. Abdur Rakib

Please Press +1 Kudos,If it helps
Sentence Correction-Collection of Ron Purewal's "elliptical construction/analogies" for SC Challenges

Kudos [?]: 2404 [0], given: 220

Director
Director
User avatar
S
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
Posts: 734

Kudos [?]: 298 [0], given: 11

Location: Bangalore, India
Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Aug 2016, 00:52
282552 wrote:
Option B : digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
How is "WAS NOT continuous " parallel to "CONSISTED".

I thought that consisted is a modifier for the subject noise .

Hi 282552, the sentence would read: The noise consisted of individual bursts.

So, consisted is used as a verb here (and hence, parallel to the verb was).
_________________

Thanks,
Ashish (GMAT Faculty @ EducationAisle)
http://www.EducationAisle.com

Sentence Correction Nirvana available at Amazon.in and Flipkart

Now! Preview the entire Grammar Section of Sentence Correction Nirvana at pothi.com

Kudos [?]: 298 [0], given: 11

1 KUDOS received
Director
Director
User avatar
G
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
Posts: 686

Kudos [?]: 151 [1], given: 855

Location: United States
Concentration: Marketing, International Business
Schools: HBS '19
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
GPA: 4
WE: Education (Education)
Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 26 Aug 2017, 05:49
1
This post received
KUDOS
My analysis:

A team of scientists found ..............that is logical in this context.

This kills A, C, and E.

In the option D.
By recording ................., the sound emissions--It seems that the sound emissions are doing the task of recording, making the intended meaning altered.
If you see D "the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers" ...ok they are digitized and analyzed. But who did that? Did the team use that analysis? These two questions options D fails to answer. This kills D.

The team of scientists is making the discovery of Noise. How are they doing so? The answer is "By digitizing and ...". This makes B correct.
Answer is B.
_________________

Thanks & Regards,
Anaira Mitch

Kudos [?]: 151 [1], given: 855

Manager
Manager
avatar
B
Joined: 29 Jun 2017
Posts: 93

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 231

Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 26 Aug 2017, 09:29
the serious problem with A is that "consisted of" is past participle here and, so, is wrong.
not continuous but consisting of

is correct.

do you agree with me on this point?

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 231

Re: By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were   [#permalink] 26 Aug 2017, 09:29

Go to page   Previous    1   2   [ 30 posts ] 

    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
The record of the past is always incomplete, and the whichscore 18 11 Jan 2013, 12:51
12 EXPERTS_POSTS_IN_THIS_TOPIC Elephants observed in Kenya used different trumpeting noises depending justdoitxxxxx 11 23 May 2017, 07:29
3 purring noise of a cat, although most people think that cats vards 4 27 Jun 2016, 07:45
1 The purring noise of a cat, although most people think that kingb 11 13 May 2016, 21:15
The clicking noise is not a mechanical sound ;rather an shikhar 1 25 Jan 2013, 10:48
Display posts from previous: Sort by

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.