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By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not

(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not

(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be

(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not

(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be

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the structure noise not to be appears a little akward. Can somebody help me with the choice of OA?

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Originally posted by maybeam on 21 Jul 2012, 16:00.
Last edited by hazelnut on 30 Mar 2018, 07:56, edited 2 times in total.
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In B found that is not parallel to but consisted
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Hi Maybeam,

Are you sure that OA is C? It doesn't make sense. Answer should be B as parallelism is maintained in option B. We need a relative clause here in order to tell the findings of the scientists.
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Hi Maybeam,

Are you sure that OA is C? It doesn't make sense. Answer should be B as parallelism is maintained in option B. We need a relative clause here in order to tell the findings of the scientists.



I m not sure. in the doc i refer it is C
i marked as B.

if its B then plz let me know.
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In B found that is not parallel to but consisted






Why do you think "found that is not parallel to but consisted" in B



I think in this context "found that" is the most correct idiom, hence B should be the answer.
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i'm suprised most of pepole took B,i chose C
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New post 23 Jul 2012, 02:20
I chose C as well .. The verdict was between B and C, but then I thought "was not" may be not a right usage, as that may be inferred as something that happened in past and is over, but the property of the sound still exists and hence meaning came out a little better. But this was a guess. Experts please explain your view.
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Here the usage of "that" must be looked into.

After a verb, "that" often can be omitted without loss in meaning.

He said that he was tired. No need for "that"

We need to use "that" in cases when the words following the verb can be mistaken as the object of the verb.

In the above question, "a team of scientists found that the noise was not" here we can omit "that"

By recording....digitizing..analyzing....a team of scientists found the noise was not...

In case the structure was....... "A team of scientists on recording...digitizing..analyzing, found "that" the noise....."

Hope it solves the issue!...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/01/us/no ... opera.html

found B in that NYT article.
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By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not
(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be
(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be


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why not B ?
the structure noise not to be appears a little akward. Can somebody help me with the choice of OA?


HI Team,
Please explain this.I am confused.
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By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

THE CLEAR CONTENDERS ARE "B" AND "C"......


(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not......."WAS NOT" IS PARRALLEL TO "CONSISTED OF"....BOTH IN SIMPLE PAST TENSE............CORRECT


(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be.......WITH "TO BE" WE SHOULD HAVE USED "CONSISTING OF" ---NOT "CONSISTED OF"......... SINCE "CONSISTED OF" IS NOT UNDERLINED WE CANT CHANGE IT... HENCE " TO BE " IS INCORRECT.....
THE CORRECT SENTENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN.......

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to becontinuous but consisting of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

HENCE "C" INCORRECT.....
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Please someone update the OA.
Correct answer is B

Question is drawn from article at following link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/01/us/no ... opera.html
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I agree with B.

(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
found thatthe noise was not continuous but consisted
(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be
the noise not to be continuous but (to be) consisting of. however the non-underlined portion has "consisted".
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My two cents .

D , E are out because the parallelism is lost as well as the sentences become passive in voice which is not required .
C is out because of the construction Not X but Y , C tends to have Not to be X but Y not parallel .

I know B is the answer , but i am still confused about how is A and B different ?
Can anybody help me here with the subtle difference between A and B ?
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this is my explanation:

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

let's understand the structure of the sentence:
-> By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber (-ing modifier)
-> and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers (another -ing modifier, which should be parallel to the first one)
these two modifiers modify the subject "a team of scientists"

3rd clause -> a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.


Now we can understand that a team of scientists found smth
they found that noise is consisted of bursts or pops ...
they found this by recording & then digitizing & analyzing the sound.

This sentence tests the correct use of modifiers, idioms, "be, being", and parallelism.


now let's get to POE:


(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not
the modifier is parallel to the first -ing modifier, both modifiers refer to "a team of scientists". Analysing the meaning, we see that a team of scientists found the noise. This is illogical! We need a that clause to introduce what they found. + not continuous but consisted - parallelism error

(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
This is the correct answer. The second -ing modifier is parallel to the first one. Both of them refer to "a team of scientists". "That" correctly introduces a new clause which explains what the team has found. Moreover, the idiom "not x but y" is correctly used: was not continuous but consisted.

(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be
the modifier is parallel to the first -ing modifier. A team of scientists found.. found what? the noise? this is illogical, we need to introduce a new clause to explain what the team has found. Using the "not to be" is awkward, furthermore it is not parallel with "but consisted", which is not in the underlined portion.

(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
the modifier is not parallel to the first modifier, which is an -ing one, hence the answer choice is incorrect.

(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be
same error as in answer choice D.
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PiyushK wrote:
Please someone update the OA.
Correct answer is B

Question is drawn from article at following link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/01/us/no ... opera.html

Done :)
Changed the OA to B



In app its still C...:(
How to change that??

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New post 18 Aug 2015, 20:25
Quick question guys :
From what I understand , and can be used to either segregate a list of three or more items OR it can be used to start a independent clause.
In this questions By recording X, and then Y
I am confused by why is there a comma before AND as there are only two items need to be parallel.
It should have been By X and thus Y
, and construction would introduce a independent clause

Please correct my understanding ?
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Not X but Y
for A, found the noise not continuous but......
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for C, found the noise not to be continuous but.......
the gaps need an adjective (e.g but hollow), to maintain parallelism
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh,

Can you please explain when can we omit the usage of "THAT".
As mentioned by someone --
He said that he was tired. No need for "that"---> Is it correct.

How can we identify weather in a particular sentence we use THAT" or not..??
I always get inclined towards sentences which uses "THAT" but have come across sentences in which the usage of "THAT" is not MANDATE.

see this sentence--

Scientists have found signs that moving water changed the chemical makeup of the surface of Mars in recent
eras, therefore concluding that its crust is harboring up to three times as much water than was previously
thought.

Ans- eras and have therefore concluded that the planet's crust harbors up to three times as much water as

As we see the non-underlined portioned have found signs its not have found THAT

Can you please assist. Its really confusing
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh,

Can you please explain when can we omit the usage of "THAT".
As mentioned by someone --
He said that he was tired. No need for "that"---> Is it correct.

How can we identify weather in a particular sentence we use THAT" or not..??
I always get inclined towards sentences which uses "THAT" but have come across sentences in which the usage of "THAT" is not MANDATE.

see this sentence--

Scientists have found signs that moving water changed the chemical makeup of the surface of Mars in recent
eras, therefore concluding that its crust is harboring up to three times as much water than was previously
thought.

Ans- eras and have therefore concluded that the planet's crust harbors up to three times as much water as

As we see the non-underlined portioned have found signs its not have found THAT

Can you please assist. Its really confusing


Hi,
If we talk in particular to requirement of that after 'found'..
here it matters what are you stressing on..
a team of scientists found that the noise was not..
the stress is on finding noise illogically,
but a team of scientists found that the noise was not..
here the stress is on finding what has been mentioned in the entire clause after that..


we can say-
He found a doctor in the clininc.. is different from
He found that a doctor was in the clinic..

On your sentence--
Scientists have found signs that moving water changed.
here the stress is on finding signs and WHAT are these signs is implied by THAT and the clause thereafter..

USAGE of THAT--
you can OMIT that after common reporting verb such as said, thought w/o change in meaning..
but after certain verbs such as replied, threatened etc, you can not omit THAT..
If a sentence does not use THAT in first place, then its a different case..
example- he replied to me.
but He replied that he is hungry -- cannot be written as-- He replied he is hungry..

there are various other rule on use of THAT, but these are the rules pertaining to this Q

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