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JackSparr0w those are some good points, with regards to communicating with students did you reach out them via LinkedIn or during your visits to the school?
Also for students like myself that would like to relocate to the Northeast, NYC in particular, how much do schools factor that into an admissions process once you've expressed your goals? Especially schools in the NE like NYU, Cornell, Tepper, etc.

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@nachobiotek I hear ya on the expenses, my funds are running fairly low these days, but Lord willing I'll make it back.

But to answer your question, either angelfire213, bml, or amj made a good point: Most of the schools will host events either in your town, or in towns nearby. Often, you can meet many of the schools' admissions people at once. For instance, Cornell, Michigan, NYU and a few others traveled around the northeast, and hosted events together. There are MBA conferences that you can attend as well. After a certain point for me, it became less about learning about the school, and more about seeing the admissions people over and over, and getting them to remember me.

In terms of putting together my list, I just worked backwards. What do I want to do? Which companies offer this role? Then which schools do those companies recruit from. The schools typically post this, but be careful! It's one thing to say BCG hired three people from school A, but what if those people were hired for a role you didn't want? My advice, call admissions, ask to be put in contact with career services. Speak to them and ask for the name of a current student as well, get a few different perspectives. Also remmeber their names for interviews. I also spent a lot of time speaking with students and career services about what happens to people that strike out, and don't get the summer internship they want. Is that game over for them in that career? Were they able to leverage other outlets and back channel their way in? What ever you decide, I think you should have a solid back up plan, and at least understand that nothing is guranteed.

But after that, it was fit for me. I loved NYU's diversity weekend, and sorta knew that was where I wanted to be. I stayed in touch with the current students and admissions throughout the process, and fortunately was invited to interview. Again, had a great time at those events as well. I applied to some other schools that would still let me acheive my goals if NYU didn't work out, but those were more of a just in case. That's really all there was to it for me. I'm happy to answer any other questions if you have them, and best of luck going forward. I think the most important thing to remember is what angelfire said in response to someone else's post, find out what you want out of the experience, and which schools are offering that to you.
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I'm waiting on Kellogg too. If I get in, I might take it over the fellowship at stern.
That brings up another question, maybe the moderator knows...can you still be part of the Consortium if you decide to not go to a Consortium school?

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No, you have to go to a member school. But I was telling angelfire, while I do think the Consortium network and OP is valuable, I think every student should be more concerned with their school's network. That's what is more likely to get you those dream jobs, simply because it's going to be much bigger.

I just want to point out for the forum that I think the value in having the CGSM network is that is it an ADDITIONAL network. I think the size of networks is negligible if the strength of your networks are really strong. Not to say that non-CGSM schools are missing out (because I don't think they are, actually), but the value of CGSM is actually knowing many more people of color from a lot of other schools, not just the one school you've attended.
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i like where your head is at! :lol: I'm more hopeful for Booth that Kellogg though since bc they interview everyone, you can't tell if there was positive interest or not...at least Booth CHOSE to interview me.

When is the ASW for kellogg? If something magical happens and i get in next week - i need to visit campus coz I only ever made it to their chicago location and not Evanston. Ah well, i'm not really complaining....just can't imagine a process that went BETTER than my nyu process.

one more week!!

to the person above - it's not a scholarship thing - NYU was ranked 1 so they had first dibs.


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wow, stern actually rejected me...not WL. i expected it at this point, but i'm still shocked. They said, they encourage me to reapply - i can't imagine what I could have done different. i think i'm more shocked because I heard they accept 70% of those interviewed.

i have other great options so i'm not devastated but i'd be lying if I didn't say it stung - they told me to reapply...but they might say that to everyone, i don't know.

Sorry angelfire! But this just frees you up to go to Kellogg!!


LOL The person above."

What I was saying is that perhaps (just a conspiracy theory of mine), prior to the draft you might've been WL'd at Stern. They passed on you during the draft because you were WL'd, but once your second or third choice offered you the fellowship, they could've been like, "Okay, well we know that Angelfire213 got into another school with the fellowship, so even if we keep her WL'd she won't attend. So, we'll just remove her from the WL to save up room for other folks who might actually choose to come here if we don't give them a dime."

That's all I'm saying. And again, you can't be too down on yourself for not getting into Stern. It's tough, and even if your story aligns with the school, there might've been 10 other folks who had the identical resume that you had, so they had to choose some of those folks and not others. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
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JRAppz for NYU I got lucky, chance encounter at my gym. Happened to run into a young man a little older than myself who was just admitted to Stern, and he guided me through the process. After school started I just asked him how things were going, what he liked, didn't like etc...To reach other students, I spoke with admissions and the career center. Sent an email asking to set up a 20 min convo, and they were very open to it. They happily put me in touch. Once you sign up for each schools' emails, they will send you things that say "If you want to speak to second year students, submit a request at this link." Finally, I met a ton of people at the diversity events, and I just asked them for their email addresses and if it would be ok to keep in touch.

As far as post MBA location, I don't think that matters as much, unless you can show the school that they will benefit somehow. I can't say for certain, but my reasoning is that if you pick up a brochure from any top 25-50 program, or check their website, they'll boast about having people in X number of countries and states. So I think they like having some people stay local, as well as having some explore other areas. If you plan to stay in the region, I would just let them know that you intend to stay local and welcome opportunities to stay involved. Kudos to you if you can say "if you look at my resume, you'll see I've still been involved with just about every community I've been a part of." Are you an advocate for your college, did you attend the boys and girls club as a child and still volunteer there now, that sort of thing. But the short answer is I don't think it matters one bit unless you can show them how it benefits their community, or your education, which in the long run should benefit their community still.
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JackSparr0w those are some good points, with regards to communicating with students did you reach out them via LinkedIn or during your visits to the school?
Also for students like myself that would like to relocate to the Northeast, NYC in particular, how much do schools factor that into an admissions process once you've expressed your goals? Especially schools in the NE like NYU, Cornell, Tepper, etc.

That's an interesting question re: relocating.

I would think that the schools care more about knowing that you want to attend their particular school, and less about your desire to be in the region their school is located in. Like, if I were to tell a company, "I really, really want to work for you," they can get behind that. If I were to tell them, "I really, really want to work in New York," I'd presume they'd be less interested, as a ton of other people want to work in New York as well. Get my drift?

Perhaps you can punctuate your conversations with admissions officers about WHY you want to move to New England. Express what type of career prospects and networking opportunities are more aligned with your relocation goals. I'm sure that schools like Cornell and Tuck and Darden do want to know that you're okay with being in their very unique geographic locations, and expressing that is a plus. But, I think it's more about knowing why you want to attend each school, not about wanting to be on the East Coast.

Just my thoughts.
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Seeing some of those considering/matriculating at schools other than from their fellowship offers: random question, but has anyone ever heard of someone getting a fellowship offer after the fact (well after the draft/decision deadline)? I imagine schools might offer a couple fellowships extra knowing that they'll be declined for other alternatives, but if there's some run, would they offer them up last minute or simply "bank" the unallocated money?
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Congratulations to everyone who made it through the process, and especially those who were granted membership and/or rewarded with a fellowship!

I've heard form all the schools I interviewed with except Tepper. Anybody still waiting for a status update from them?
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look through last year's thread... that seems to be ringing some bells. i think it might have been one of the CA schools but don't quote me.

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Seeing some of those considering/matriculating at schools other than from their fellowship offers: random question, but has anyone ever heard of someone getting a fellowship offer after the fact (well after the draft/decision deadline)? I imagine schools might offer a couple fellowships extra knowing that they'll be declined for other alternatives, but if there's some run, would they offer them up last minute or simply "bank" the unallocated money?
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yea - i guess ppl will theorize but i don't really buy all those conspiracy things out there. NYU would be silly to presume what candidates would or would not do. There are folks that turn down the fellowship (say #3 rank) to go to their #1 rank school and pay full price. why would my #6 school give me a fellowship then. why did someone in R1 have nyu offer them the deans scholarship (full tuition) when that person's number 1 school offered them the consortium one.

anyway, we're beating a dead horse. not everyone can get in - but i will still continue to be quite surprised i wasn't WL here due to many things that happened in the process.

to the newbies, just remember that we are all giving advice based on what we THINK, nobody here actually knows how admissions weighs or does anything. So, how much do they factor x, y or z questions won't really get you anywhere.

meeting students is easy - almost everyone has the emails or ambassadors or club leaders listed. Like i said upthread, your main goal right now should be to get on the mailing lists of all the schools you are interested in and go to events in your city when you can. local alums usually show up and there's usually a chance you get to network with them afterwards.

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wow, stern actually rejected me...not WL. i expected it at this point, but i'm still shocked. They said, they encourage me to reapply - i can't imagine what I could have done different. i think i'm more shocked because I heard they accept 70% of those interviewed.

i have other great options so i'm not devastated but i'd be lying if I didn't say it stung - they told me to reapply...but they might say that to everyone, i don't know.

Sorry angelfire! But this just frees you up to go to Kellogg!!


LOL The person above."

What I was saying is that perhaps (just a conspiracy theory of mine), prior to the draft you might've been WL'd at Stern. They passed on you during the draft because you were WL'd, but once your second or third choice offered you the fellowship, they could've been like, "Okay, well we know that Angelfire213 got into another school with the fellowship, so even if we keep her WL'd she won't attend. So, we'll just remove her from the WL to save up room for other folks who might actually choose to come here if we don't give them a dime."

That's all I'm saying. And again, you can't be too down on yourself for not getting into Stern. It's tough, and even if your story aligns with the school, there might've been 10 other folks who had the identical resume that you had, so they had to choose some of those folks and not others. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
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I also haven't heard anything from Tepper.

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Congratulations to everyone who made it through the process, and especially those who were granted membership and/or rewarded with a fellowship!

I've heard form all the schools I interviewed with except Tepper. Anybody still waiting for a status update from them?
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WL at USC with interview, WL at Emory without an interview, and radio silence from UCLA. I've been following up with the WL school consistently with updates and supplemental materials, so far no decision. How is your experience going with Stern?



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still WL at Stern. did you interview at your WL schools?

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Anyone wait listed from round one still waiting on their decision? Trying to feel out whether I should keep hope alive or prepare for a ding. I'm currently wait listed at two schools and still haven't heard from one at all and my consortium decision is not posted yet.
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UCLA is super hard to get into esp if quant % is low for you.

75% or above to be on the safe side.

I am not pushing that hard anymore for Stern but when giving schools some updates, don't overdo it. Good luck to you Phoebe!

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WL at USC with interview, WL at Emory without an interview, and radio silence from UCLA. I've been following up with the WL school consistently with updates and supplemental materials, so far no decision. How is your experience going with Stern?



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still WL at Stern. did you interview at your WL schools?

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Anyone wait listed from round one still waiting on their decision? Trying to feel out whether I should keep hope alive or prepare for a ding. I'm currently wait listed at two schools and still haven't heard from one at all and my consortium decision is not posted yet.
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I'm waiting on Kellogg too. If I get in, I might take it over the fellowship at stern.
That brings up another question, maybe the moderator knows...can you still be part of the Consortium if you decide to not go to a Consortium school?

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No, you have to go to a member school. But I was telling angelfire, while I do think the Consortium network and OP is valuable, I think every student should be more concerned with their school's network. That's what is more likely to get you those dream jobs, simply because it's going to be much bigger.

I just want to point out for the forum that I think the value in having the CGSM network is that is it an ADDITIONAL network. I think the size of networks is negligible if the strength of your networks are really strong. Not to say that non-CGSM schools are missing out (because I don't think they are, actually), but the value of CGSM is actually knowing many more people of color from a lot of other schools, not just the one school you've attended.

Agreed but if you are debating between a non-CGSM school that has a strong network in your desired field and location v. a CGSM school that has a weak to mediocre network in your desired field and location, then I don't think the Consortium membership is going to change much. I just don't think the Consortium network alone is enough of a reason to choose a CGSM school over a non-CGSM school. There needs to be other factors or the membership at least being a tie-breaker. Even people of color are more likely to be more "loyal"/"connected" to those that went to their own school and had many of the same experiences.
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Angelfire, I also got the ax at Stern but it was my number 3. Tuck #2 waitlisted me which is flattering after getting fellowship from Ross (#1). I wonder what would have happened if I flipped Ross and Tuck, but I also know candidates that are better than me that ranked Tuck #1 and also received waitlist, in with no aid, or a ding. There is a random factor to this. I couldn't attend Discovery Weekend. I'm sure if I have I would have attended I would have made better connections with the admissions office and I would have ranked Stern higher hence increasing my probability of admission. (Definitely not guaranteeing it!) It's all cray.



[quote="angelfire213"]yea - i guess ppl will theorize but i don't really buy all those conspiracy things out there. NYU would be silly to presume what candidates would or would not do. There are folks that turn down the fellowship (say #3 rank) to go to their #1 rank school and pay full price. why would my #6 school give me a fellowship then. why did someone in R1 have nyu offer them the deans scholarship (full tuition) when that person's number 1 school offered them the consortium one.

anyway, we're beating a dead horse. not everyone can get in - but i will still continue to be quite surprised i wasn't WL here due to many things that happened in the process.

to the newbies, just remember that we are all giving advice based on what we THINK, nobody here actually knows how admissions weighs or does anything. So, how much do they factor x, y or z questions won't really get you anywhere.

meeting students is easy - almost everyone has the emails or ambassadors or club leaders listed. Like i said upthread, your main goal right now should be to get on the mailing lists of all the schools you are interested in and go to events in your city when you can. local alums usually show up and there's usually a chance you get to network with them afterwards.
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Amj643 & JackSparr0w,
You have said all relative points, with regards to wanting to relocate. I'm throwing questions out there to see what seems important to adcoms and what doesn't.

Another question is, did any of you guys feel treated different when going through the process via consortium vs. non-consortium? It doesn't have to be negative either, just would like to know if any one felt that the process was any different.
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Hey everyone! I'm another future applicant that's been lurking on this board. Congratulations to all of you with admits! Now that you've have ventured through this process successfully, any opinions on the use of MBA admission consultants? I've heard opinions that are on both sides of the fence but interested to hear your fresh perspective.
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As has been discussed thoroughly in the past few pages, the difference in treatment comes across when a school knows you ranked them 4-6. When you apply outside the consortium a school has no idea they're your safety. This seems to have some influence on your admission, which at the end of the day is what you really care about.
In terms of other treatment, based on a mix of diversity weekends and regular visits, either way is more or less equal. In both cases admissions is trying to get you to apply, so they treat you with that in mind. I never heard an admissions officer discourage someone from applying to their school or recommend another school over theirs.
The diversity weekends are a lot of fun, but they definitely come across as targeted marketing. Visiting and sitting in a class gives you a much better idea of what the culture of the school would be like day to day. I do recommend diversity weekends where they let you interview (Tuck, Tepper) because you get a visit and an interview out of the way with one trip.

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Amj643 & JackSparr0w,
You have said all relative points, with regards to wanting to relocate. I'm throwing questions out there to see what seems important to adcoms and what doesn't.

Another question is, did any of you guys feel treated different when going through the process via consortium vs. non-consortium? It doesn't have to be negative either, just would like to know if any one felt that the process was any different.
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