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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 12 May 2011, 08:59
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If it wasn't about yield, they would give WL candidates more than 48 hours to decide to put $1500.

I bet there are 20+ interchangeable candidates per category - you don't think they are going to go for the sure thing? It's 100% a yield game, no matter how you slice it.
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If it wasn't about yield, they would give WL candidates more than 48 hours to decide to put $1500.

I bet there are 20+ interchangeable candidates per category - you don't think they are going to go for the sure thing? It's 100% a yield game, no matter how you slice it.

OK, I see what you are saying, but it's not some nefarious scheme as you lay it out. Yes, Duke is concerned about yield - every school is. They want to know that if they offer a candidate admission in May (only 10 weeks or so before school starts), that they will come. There's an essay question for each school asking specifically "Why XBS?" How long would you propose a waitlisted applicant be given to decide this late into the process? While I sympathize that it all may be a bit frustrating right now, I don't think there's anything underhanded about the process.
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Its a lot better than schools like Haas for e.g. Duke infact manages its WL better than most other schools in its bracket.
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 12 May 2011, 10:31
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Dear Duke,
Yield, class composition or evil scheme... I really don´t care. Please admit me! That´s all that matters.
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If it wasn't about yield, they would give WL candidates more than 48 hours to decide to put $1500.

I bet there are 20+ interchangeable candidates per category - you don't think they are going to go for the sure thing? It's 100% a yield game, no matter how you slice it.

OK, I see what you are saying, but it's not some nefarious scheme as you lay it out. Yes, Duke is concerned about yield - every school is. They want to know that if they offer a candidate admission in May (only 10 weeks or so before school starts), that they will come. There's an essay question for each school asking specifically "Why XBS?" How long would you propose a waitlisted applicant be given to decide this late into the process? While I sympathize that it all may be a bit frustrating right now, I don't think there's anything underhanded about the process.

Its a lot better than schools like Haas for e.g. Duke infact manages its WL better than most other schools in its bracket.
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Not sure I would say anything positive with regards to how Duke manages its WL, especially for the earlier rounds. They've sent one e-mail telling us to expect to hear something on certain days and most of us have heard nothing. They also mention, "there's still a good chance of admission" however from these boards it seems like they keep dangling the carrot in order to ensure they every spot filled with the exact demographic break out they want, but its readily apparent most of us do not have a good shot at acceptance from the WL despite continued updates.

Also, if anyone happened to attend the web chats, they would not tell you when they would notify you, how big the wait list is, how many would get accepted from the wait list this year or in past years, or really anything to help our situations other than restating the FAQs. I can't say Kellogg has done any better or worse from personal experience this year, so I guess thats just the nature of the WL.
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 13 May 2011, 17:07
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More nothing today, it looks like... I agree with the other comments here that we'll probably start to hear more activity once the May 20 deposit deadline hits.

Looking back through the "Calling all Duke 2010" thread, there was very little activity in late May, but:

Two admissions around June 15
One on June 22
One on July 2
Two around July 15

Maybe (hopefully?) things will be different this year. I'm in a similar boat to others here with a house, vehicles, etc., and while I'd love to go to Duke, it's going to get very tough to say yes after mid-June with all of the things that need to get done.
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Wonder what happens if they can't get a hold of you on the phone immediately? Pass right on down the list?
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Wonder what happens if they can't get a hold of you on the phone immediately? Pass right on down the list?
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I'm afraid of this as well. I will be out of the country for two weeks after the May 20th deadline, so I hope they call me at a time when I have service... IF they do call me.
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Wonder what happens if they can't get a hold of you on the phone immediately? Pass right on down the list?

I'm afraid of this as well. I will be out of the country for two weeks after the May 20th deadline, so I hope they call me at a time when I have service... IF they do call me.
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Duke is not going to skip over you because you don't answer your phone. I am certain they are more vested in admission decisions than your concern suggests. As for the poster who will be out of country, send them an email telling them so - concern alleviated.
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 16 May 2011, 05:18
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Does anyone have any suggestions on cheap online math courses to fulfill the calculus requirement? I looked into a couple (U of Phoenix, etc) but they are all around $1500...don't really want to spent that much $$$ on a joke online course...
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Check UC Berkley Extension - they have programs catered toward pre-MBAs and it's only like $675 per online course. Also, you don't have to go to a proctor center - classes are basically graded on homework and chat participation.
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Does anyone have any suggestions on cheap online math courses to fulfill the calculus requirement? I looked into a couple (U of Phoenix, etc) but they are all around $1500...don't really want to spent that much $$$ on a joke online course...
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I'm taking an online course with a local community college. I'm lucky that there are a lot of community colleges near me, so I could go in person if I like as well. In-state tuition on the calculus courses are between $400-600. I had to contact the professor for the syllabus and then send to Duke for approval.
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Duke's deposit deadline is May 20th so I'm hoping they start accepting WL & R3 applicants soon after? I'd really like this anxiousness to end...
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I hear ya... waiting 3 schools waitlists, all top choices too. Ready for everything to be done so we can plan on moving, etc.
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Does anybody know if the WL pool will be trimmed down within the next couple of weeks/months? Or will all the current WLers, who won't get the call, ultimately get a Ding all at the same time? I checked the threads from the last couple of years, but did not see any reports of WLers being Dinged in June/July.

I already have an admit elsewhere, but Fuqua is certainly my first choice. If in case I don't get a spot in this year's class, I am actually considering waiting and trying again for the 2012 Application Season.

I have read somewhere that the AdCom offers to give feedback to the WL-Rejectees. Therefore, if they were to ultimately reject me, I would rather know as early as possible. Then I can get some feedback from them and determine whether or not I should wait. I figure getting a WL in R3 could mean my chances would be better if I submit in the EA/R1 for the 2014 class. But I cannot just assume that. I need to know which parts of my application I really need to improve on. Otherwise, I would be forced to go somewhere else this year.
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I don't think they give feedback anymore. I would check the waitlist chat transcripts on Fuqua's website if you have not done so already. I know of several people who were taken off the waitlist in June last year and some in July, so I wouldn't lose hope. Also, I found Fuqua to really like correspondence, so if you haven't done so already - email them and tell them how pumped you are to still be considered, and that if you were admitted, there is no doubt that you would attend.

I think the largest factor affecting Duke's waitlist is going to be the waitlist of other programs such as Kellogg. Kellogg still has spots open, but are waiting until the Round 3 deposit date to see how many spots are filled by Round 3 offers. In my case, I'm in at Duke, but waitlisted at Kellogg. It would be hard for me to turn down Kellogg, which would then most likely open a spot at Duke in June. Again, the problem is uncertainty. Hang in there.
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 18 May 2011, 07:42
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I'm in the same position (R3 WL). Applying again for EA or R1 next year makes a lot of sense - better shot to get in and possibly with some $$, assuming you can address the weaknesses in your application. It sucks to go through the process again, but without any idea of my chances of getting admitted off the waitlist, I think it is better to assume the worst and start getting ready to reapply. WL is terrible.
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 18 May 2011, 08:21
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The deposit deadline for Kellogg is June 6th!! Any other Duke admitted student wailtlisted on other top choice program?
@mbahubby Which is your top choice between Harvard, Duke and Yale?
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Patience is a virtue. They could let people in before that date. It just depends on when people accept/decline their offers.

Also, my theory has been right thus far - if HBS is letting people off the WL then most schools will be utilizing their waitlist. I'm guessing there will be movement in mid-June, but until then, it's a waiting game.
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Was told by HBS that they should be finishing up their decisions by May 27th and want their class finalized. Still have not heard anything though...... For Duke, have not heard of any WL updates, thinking maybe we will after the deposits are due on 5/27?? pure speculation though.
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I don't think they give feedback anymore. I would check the waitlist chat transcripts on Fuqua's website if you have not done so already. I know of several people who were taken off the waitlist in June last year and some in July, so I wouldn't lose hope. Also, I found Fuqua to really like correspondence, so if you haven't done so already - email them and tell them how pumped you are to still be considered, and that if you were admitted, there is no doubt that you would attend.

I think the largest factor affecting Duke's waitlist is going to be the waitlist of other programs such as Kellogg. Kellogg still has spots open, but are waiting until the Round 3 deposit date to see how many spots are filled by Round 3 offers. In my case, I'm in at Duke, but waitlisted at Kellogg. It would be hard for me to turn down Kellogg, which would then most likely open a spot at Duke in June. Again, the problem is uncertainty. Hang in there.
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Thanks. I know that they had the chat a while back, but didn't know that the transcript is stored on the website. I have sent Fuqua a couple of updates, which include the results of my annual evaluation at work, a salary increase, new projects and my 100% commitment to matriculating if they were to take to me in. I am actually contemplating on making another visit sometime in June as well since I have been planning on hanging out with a friend near Durham around that time. Does anybody know if they are they open to WLers visiting campus?

For your sake and mine, I hope Kellogg accepts you. Then again, if I end up taking somebody else's vacated spot, I hope you choose Fuqua over Kellogg anyway. :)

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I'm in the same position (R3 WL). Applying again for EA or R1 next year makes a lot of sense - better shot to get in and possibly with some $$, assuming you can address the weaknesses in your application. It sucks to go through the process again, but without any idea of my chances of getting admitted off the waitlist, I think it is better to assume the worst and start getting ready to reapply. WL is terrible.
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Have you been admitted anywhere else? If so, what's the likelihood of you choosing to enroll this year vs. waiting to reapply later this year?

My main concern is that submitting my application in March and then sending in two updates since (one in April and another last week) would leave me with nothing else to write in the "What makes you a stronger applicant this year?" essay. Does anybody have any statistics or anecdotal information on how WLers have fared as reapplicants?

@mbahubby: I believe the R3 deposit deadline is Friday, May 20th. Therefore, there's a possibility that people will be admitted off the WL as early as Monday, May 23rd. Also, based on your profile, I think I might have met your husband when I interviewed on campus in April.
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