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@lagomez did you get the membership?

As a Consortium student, I believe I can utilize my leadership skills and past experiences in innovation and service commitment to increase representation of minority students as I have done in my college community and my local community as well as schools in [underrepresented community] through our current Title One initiative.
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I haven't received anything. Honestly, I have no idea why people are denied membership or why they are given membership.
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vannbj -- that's wonderful news! Congrats to all of those who are in this forum and finally have some sort of closure. There appears to be a couple of schools who do not notify all of its new admits (to include membership and fellowship) until the CGSM sends the letter. Schools like UNC, UVA and a 1 or 2 CA schools seem to fit this pattern; there may be others too. In the case of Darden, most Fellows were contacted shortly after March 1, but others (like vannbj) were not. In any case, hopefully everyone will know where h/she stands within the next 2 postal mailing days.
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This is my mission. There are many missions like it but this mission is mine.
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LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm Asian and a woman but not one of their listed minorities. However, my "mission" programs and every other nonprofit agency I have worked with catered to their listed minorities and it has never been a problem. I'm really more concerned about what this 'red flag' is. Obviously if I never got the membership, I was never even considered for the fellowship and therefore it may be to my advantage to figure it out and reapply (without schools 4,5,6). I mean, that is the most disappointing thought. After all this, i was never even in the running for a MEMBERSHIP.
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man i'm so glad i didnt go the consortium route. I'm an asian woman as well and have been involved with a lot of consortium-like missions since I was in college but I was advised not to apply by people i trust. Basically the consortium is a business and they aren't going to let you in unless you align with their mission which is to get more underrepresented minorities in bschool. so no matter how much you care about underrepresented minorities in bschool careers, you aren't the ones that they are targeting so that is why you werent admitted.
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I'm Asian and a woman but not one of their listed minorities. However, my "mission" programs and every other nonprofit agency I have worked with catered to their listed minorities and it has never been a problem. I'm really more concerned about what this 'red flag' is. Obviously if I never got the membership, I was never even considered for the fellowship and therefore it may be to my advantage to figure it out and reapply (without schools 4,5,6). I mean, that is the most disappointing thought. After all this, i was never even in the running for a MEMBERSHIP.

man i'm so glad i didnt go the consortium route. I'm an asian woman as well and have been involved with a lot of consortium-like missions since I was in college but I was advised not to apply by people i trust. Basically the consortium is a business and they aren't going to let you in unless you align with their mission which is to get more underrepresented minorities in bschool. so no matter how much you care about underrepresented minorities in bschool careers, you aren't the ones that they are targeting so that is why you werent admitted.
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So basically its an epic fail. You pay for 3 schools to essentially ignore you. And you don't even get considered for the membership/fellowship, only to be strung along for about 6 months. I mean I've worked with many nonprofits who list those groups as part of their mission statements but I've never had them exclude me from any of their scholarships or activities. One of them even gave me scholarships for undergrad that was earmarked for those groups.

While the Consortium still invites you to apply and all that stuff, its a little discriminatory, don't you think? I mean, they essentially know you won't get a fellowship right off the bat because you're never going to be a 'member.' You just gotta pay the fee, which granted is less but considering schools 4, 5, 6 is gone, its essentially more.
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I'm Asian and a woman but not one of their listed minorities. However, my "mission" programs and every other nonprofit agency I have worked with catered to their listed minorities and it has never been a problem. I'm really more concerned about what this 'red flag' is. Obviously if I never got the membership, I was never even considered for the fellowship and therefore it may be to my advantage to figure it out and reapply (without schools 4,5,6). I mean, that is the most disappointing thought. After all this, i was never even in the running for a MEMBERSHIP.

man i'm so glad i didnt go the consortium route. I'm an asian woman as well and have been involved with a lot of consortium-like missions since I was in college but I was advised not to apply by people i trust. Basically the consortium is a business and they aren't going to let you in unless you align with their mission which is to get more underrepresented minorities in bschool. so no matter how much you care about underrepresented minorities in bschool careers, you aren't the ones that they are targeting so that is why you werent admitted.

So basically its an epic fail. You pay for 3 schools to essentially ignore you. And you don't even get considered for the membership/fellowship, only to be strung along for about 6 months. I mean I've worked with many nonprofits who list those groups as part of their mission statements but I've never had them exclude me from any of their scholarships or activities. One of them even gave me scholarships for undergrad that was earmarked for those groups.

While the Consortium still invites you to apply and all that stuff, its a little discriminatory, don't you think? I mean, they essentially know you won't get a fellowship right off the bat because you're never going to be a 'member.' You just gotta pay the fee, which granted is less but considering schools 4, 5, 6 is gone, its essentially more.
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I take it that you only applied to schools via the Consortium. Is that true?
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I'm Asian and a woman but not one of their listed minorities. However, my "mission" programs and every other nonprofit agency I have worked with catered to their listed minorities and it has never been a problem. I'm really more concerned about what this 'red flag' is. Obviously if I never got the membership, I was never even considered for the fellowship and therefore it may be to my advantage to figure it out and reapply (without schools 4,5,6). I mean, that is the most disappointing thought. After all this, i was never even in the running for a MEMBERSHIP.

man i'm so glad i didnt go the consortium route. I'm an asian woman as well and have been involved with a lot of consortium-like missions since I was in college but I was advised not to apply by people i trust. Basically the consortium is a business and they aren't going to let you in unless you align with their mission which is to get more underrepresented minorities in bschool. so no matter how much you care about underrepresented minorities in bschool careers, you aren't the ones that they are targeting so that is why you werent admitted.

So basically its an epic fail. You pay for 3 schools to essentially ignore you. And you don't even get considered for the membership/fellowship, only to be strung along for about 6 months. I mean I've worked with many nonprofits who list those groups as part of their mission statements but I've never had them exclude me from any of their scholarships or activities. One of them even gave me scholarships for undergrad that was earmarked for those groups.

While the Consortium still invites you to apply and all that stuff, its a little discriminatory, don't you think? I mean, they essentially know you won't get a fellowship right off the bat because you're never going to be a 'member.' You just gotta pay the fee, which granted is less but considering schools 4, 5, 6 is gone, its essentially more.
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Not sure if that's a given... According to their stats here's the breakdown of current student members

There are nearly 600 Consortium students enrolled at our member schools. The following profile identifies the classes of 2011 and 2012.
African American: 56%
Hispanic American: 27%
Asian American: 5%
Native American: 2%
Other: 6% (includes Caucasians and multi-ethnics)

Perhaps it may have been better to apply not via the consortium, anyone who ranked a school not #1 and didn't get in to it probably thinks the same. But simply getting into Business School is a HUGE win. You don't need a consortium membership, there will be plenty of other groups to join in B-school.

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chibiutena, hey at least you got into a school via the consortium application since it is substantially cheaper and less work (depending on the school i guess) than if you were to apply non-consortium. but yes consortium has a mission and it's their prerogative not to let you in because you don't align with their mission. sorry :(. i, too, wish they would clearly state that on their mission page that they ONLY want underrepresented minorities in their program but then they will exclude all the CA schools from taking part because of prop 209.

i vaguely recall MJ Shores from UCLA saying that the reason why UCLA is now able to participate in the consortium is that the consortium modified their mission to allow non underrepresented minorities to apply.
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Well, at the same time, I think I would have rather gotten a real shot at schools 1-6 instead of wasting my time on 4,5,6. I actually wanted to attend all 6 schools and my rank for each one was pretty even. I kind of feel that this wasn't a fair assessment of what schools i can get into and what opportunities I can receive. This whole non-minority thing grinds my gears.[insert tirade]
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^^ if you aren't happy with the schools you got into it's probably just better to apply next yr R1 since it is a 100K plus 2 yr salary investment.
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Well, at the same time, I think I would have rather gotten a real shot at schools 1-6 instead of wasting my time on 4,5,6. I actually wanted to attend all 6 schools and my rank for each one was pretty even. I kind of feel that this wasn't a fair assessment of what schools i can get into and what opportunities I can receive. This whole non-minority thing grinds my gears.[insert tirade]
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I am a minority. I got into the schools but no fellowship however provided membership. You may want to request feedback as to why you didn't get either one of them.
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Asked Consortium, school and scholarship office at school...i got a pretty banal answer that said they can't make individual assessments and repeated their website.
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Asked Consortium, school and scholarship office at school...i got a pretty banal answer that said they can't make individual assessments and repeated their website.
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that is interesting because i asked for my feedback and got it. It may be that your recommendors screwed you
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Call Rebecca at consortium...the worst that can happen is you find out the truth and maybe it was the late recommendation you mentioned...I mean you have nothing to lose, since the consortium has nothing to do with your school acceptances...maybe they'll realize somehow you slipped through the cracks, schools have, although rarely, but they have offered membership and fellowships through late spring early summer....like I said you have nothing to lose and I'm sure you'll gain more info that way than asking people on the boards because we're all speculating at this point.

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Asked Consortium, school and scholarship office at school...i got a pretty banal answer that said they can't make individual assessments and repeated their website.


that is interesting because i asked for my feedback and got it. It may be that your recommendors screwed you
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I'm going to have to agree that there is a large piece of the puzzle that we are not aware of, be it recommendations, essays, general stats, etc. I HIGHLY doubt that they would not provide you with membership just b/c you are Asian. Considering that the Consortium invites everyone to apply, they would be working against their own mission if the only thing you had going against you was your race/nationality.

Anyway, it sounds like you got into at least one of your top 3 schools, so that is a GREAT thing. Hopefully they'll have other funds set aside for you.
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I was under the assumption that the stats, essays and recommendations went into the admission decision in the first place. The only differentiating factor between admission and membership is the consortium rec and the essay. I thought the membership was less competitive than an ivy league admission, no? I suspect my recommender but I don't think he has anything against me...

PS The School office bolded "African Americans, Native Americans and Hispanic Americans" in their generic response.
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I was under the assumption that the stats, essays and recommendations went into the admission decision in the first place. The only differentiating factor between admission and membership is the consortium rec and the essay. I thought the membership was less competitive than an ivy league admission, no? I suspect my recommender but I don't think he has anything against me...

PS The School office bolded "African Americans, Native Americans and Hispanic Americans" in their generic response.
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Just curious, but can you post what their response was...
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The Consortium Board of Trustees, which is made up of representatives from all 17 schools, votes on Consortium membership for each candidate. While I understand that you are a minority and female, the Consortium mission is specifically to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious underrepresentation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both member schools’ enrollments and the ranks of management. Unfortunately the information presented in your application did not demonstrate enough of a commitment to the Consortium’s mission, and the Board of Trustees was unable to offer you Consortium membership at this time.

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Due to the number of applications received, we are unable to provide feedback regarding your decision.
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I would definitely ask again. If what you said about your background is true, something is very wrong with this picture
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I'm Asian and a woman but not one of their listed minorities. However, my "mission" programs and every other nonprofit agency I have worked with catered to their listed minorities and it has never been a problem. I'm really more concerned about what this 'red flag' is. Obviously if I never got the membership, I was never even considered for the fellowship and therefore it may be to my advantage to figure it out and reapply (without schools 4,5,6). I mean, that is the most disappointing thought. After all this, i was never even in the running for a MEMBERSHIP.

man i'm so glad i didnt go the consortium route. I'm an asian woman as well and have been involved with a lot of consortium-like missions since I was in college but I was advised not to apply by people i trust. Basically the consortium is a business and they aren't going to let you in unless you align with their mission which is to get more underrepresented minorities in bschool. so no matter how much you care about underrepresented minorities in bschool careers, you aren't the ones that they are targeting so that is why you werent admitted.
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Hi, I just have to chime in here. I am Asian as well, and so far I have been admitted through the Consortium to TWO schools. I strongly believe that if you write compelling essays exhibiting your dedication to the mission statement, schools will want you (and of course the rest of your app is strong as well). Perhaps I just got lucky, and I understand that the majority of Consortium members are underrepresented minorities, but I think that it is unfair to the Consortium to complain that you never really had a shot in the first place, when in actuality you did. My .02
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