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Rhyme I'll shot you an email and we can try meeting up Monday night....now I just need to convince my wife I need to miss our Lamaze class!
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Look, you just turn to your wife and say, "Honey, I've been seeing a fifty year old man named Buck for the last three years." then during the silence say "Do you need me to come to Lamaze tonight?" I'm pretty sure she'll let you come out.

Waiting on that email.
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Well, the obvious reason for why not to include the score is because it's readily available elsewhere in the application.

But I was thinking about why they ask for a resume in the first place, when everything else in the resume is (also) more or less available elsewhere in the application. My thought was that they wanted to have a concise reading of how employable you are, because helping you find a job is one of the key functions of a business school. And as mentioned above, GMAT score is an integral part of the MBA job search for 1/2 or more of all available jobs.
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Actually its interesting you bring this up. I've wondered why schools ask for a resume but also then ask for EXACTLY the same info across the application. Employer, dates of employment, responsibilities (in some free form text box), etc. It's always a cut and paste from your resume - the only time I ever saw anything new was on HBS, and even then it was just tweaks to what was already on my resume.

I figured part of it was for data mining purposes - how many people came from the X industry vs the Y industry? I also figured it was a readability thing - resumes come in lots of different formats, so they ask you to fill out the form for the purposes of a "standard" application look. Then I figure the actual resume upload is for distribution to interviewers.

I dont know though.
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If they want to know they can ask. I'm not trying to hide it at all, but I feel that the interview should really be aimed at assessing those things that are not already apparent on your app.
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If they want to know they can ask. I'm not trying to hide it at all, but I feel that the interview should really be aimed at assessing those things that are not already apparent on your app.
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I like all my interviews to be behavioral. Dont press me on leadership and teamwork, just find out if im the kind of person youd want to have in your study group.
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Well I certainly agree with you 100% ryme... Don't think thats gonna happen at Cornell or anywhere else for that matter. It MIGHT and only might if your student interviewer pans out the way we all want it to. But if you get someone from admissions you'll have to deal with what I delt with when you try to make the interview your own... "who's interviewing who here?" Thats never a good thing to here in an interview. From here on out I am gonna sit back, relax and let them control the interview.
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Well I certainly agree with you 100% ryme... Don't think thats gonna happen at Cornell or anywhere else for that matter. It MIGHT and only might if your student interviewer pans out the way we all want it to. But if you get someone from admissions you'll have to deal with what I delt with when you try to make the interview your own... "who's interviewing who here?" Thats never a good thing to here in an interview. From here on out I am gonna sit back, relax and let them control the interview.
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They actually said "Whos interviewing who here?"

Seriously?

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Ya...

They asked about undergrad... Then they asked about why an MBA now? So I said why didn't you ask the more obvious question? And she said "who's interviewing who here?" And I said "don't you want to know why I didn't teach?" As I just said that I had gotten an MA in Education along with my undergrad story. She said she thought my mom convinced me to go into teaching and I just didn't like it. I recoverd, but it was not the nicest thing to hear. Maybe she thought "obvious question" was rude... It wasn't meant to be. I was just trying to be funny and interesting, but what can ya do.
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Ya...

They asked about undergrad... Then they asked about why an MBA now? So I said why didn't you ask the more obvious question? And she said "who's interviewing who here?" And I said "don't you want to know why I didn't teach?" As I just said that I had gotten an MA in Education along with my undergrad story. She said she thought my mom convinced me to go into teaching and I just didn't like it. I recoverd, but it was not the nicest thing to hear. Maybe she thought "obvious question" was rude... It wasn't meant to be. I was just trying to be funny and interesting, but what can ya do.
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Holy lord.

Seriously, your interview sounds unpleasant. I'm surprised they were willing to be so abrasive, it would be a real turn off towards my being interested in a school. Sometimes I think schools forget - yes I'm courting you, but you are also courting me.

Reminds me of some of my more nerve racking interviews for jobs I've had.

Real world questions I've had:

"Hm.. We don't usually hire economics majors." Followed by silence.
"I dont think you are a good fit. Convince me I'm wrong."
"Are you a socialist? I dont want to hire a f(!@#(!@ capitlist pig" (honest to god truth)

And of course:
"How many ping pong balls fit in airplane?"
"How many gas stations are there in the US?"
"If I stacked pennies from here to the top of the sears tower would they fit in this room?"
"If I took a 12 by 12 inch cube made up of small 1 by 1 inch cubes and labelled 10 cubes with an X, and put them back into the larger cube randomly, what would be the formula for determining how many cubes I'd have to pull out before the probability of finding one with an X reached 50%?"
"How many pieces of luggage are handled a day at Ohare?"
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At Fidelity they are big on things like "good cop, bad cop."

I was surprized too with the interview. I started off with some great rapport about the ride out and Tufts v. Cornell undergrad. The students were great to me as well. The interview's difficulty surprised me alot. I thought it would be more laid back. I am used to tough interviews from Fidelity, but I wasn't expecting one from Cornell.

I gotta tell you if I am ever in a position to interview others I am gonna let them tell their story and just use questions as a framework. Thats what an interview should be... not a grilling session.

I'm going to Dartmouth on 11/06. Hopefully the NH native thing will help there. I've also been on Family Medical Leave for a few weeks with a sick mother... So hopefully they will be more relaxed. But point is from here on out I am not going to assume that anything is chill... They can control the hell out of the interview...
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I can't believe I got the interview - I was so sure I'd somehow blown the essays cause I did them so fast!

Still on cloud 9.
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Yeah... Waiting all that time and thinking that you were not going to get one towards the end I am sure helps with the "excitement factor" right now. :)
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Yeah... Waiting all that time and thinking that you were not going to get one towards the end I am sure helps with the "excitement factor" right now. :)
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Sure does!

I'm bringing down my d70 and a few lenses. I want to bring my tripod so I can play with some HDR images, but I figure I'll look kind of insane walking around campus with a d70 strapped to my neck and a tripod in hand.
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Take a look at this Ryme... Businessweek (bit old but still relevant) interview with Johnson Admissions director. Great interview stuff...

https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/co ... han=search
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Take a look at this Ryme... Businessweek (bit old but still relevant) interview with Johnson Admissions director. Great interview stuff...

https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/co ... han=search
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Oh !*@#*!@3 yea. Hugely helpful. Thank you.
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Wish I had that...! :)
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Wish I had that...! :)
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You posted it!
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I mean before the interview. :)
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To follow-up on Mark's interview description....I'd say mine was the exact opposite. Didn't feel like I was grilled at all...that's not to say they didn't ask challenging questions, but the format was generally laid back and conversational.

I think it's difficult to try and deliberately direct interviews without making it obvious, so it's not something I consciously think about. Going in I had certain talking points and application themes that I wanted to highlight in my answers, but beyond that I think you can run into trouble.

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Cornell Interview Request! 01 Nov 2006, 10:20
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Rhyme...you'll be quite surprised who and what you see walking around Cornell & Ithaca....it's quite a diverse area, I expect you would be hardly noticed!

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Yeah... Waiting all that time and thinking that you were not going to get one towards the end I am sure helps with the "excitement factor" right now. :)

Sure does!

I'm bringing down my d70 and a few lenses. I want to bring my tripod so I can play with some HDR images, but I figure I'll look kind of insane walking around campus with a d70 strapped to my neck and a tripod in hand.
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Guys,

Does your application status say: Check on or around notification day? Is me the only one whose status is such?
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