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Hi GMATNinja.

Please help in explaining why C is wrong?

C is connecting the the social processes with interaction that are neither rigid nor Artificial. So in a way it is supporting the Conclusion right?.
Can you please help here.

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Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students’ insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.

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The conclusion is that Traditional classroom education is ineffective. Other statements are premises. Option C is linking premise in statement 2 with premise in statement 1. However thats not the aim here. Our aim is to link a missing portion with conclusion. D is doing that work here. Its like, A is because of B and only B leads to C. Hence we assumed that A happens only because C does as stated in option D.
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Conclusion : Traditional classroom education is ineffective.

Premise:
1. Traditional classroom education is not truly a social process.
2. only social processes can develop students’ insights.
3. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group
4. In the traditional classroom, interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.
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assumption:
1. if the teacher acts from outside the group then it is not a social process.
2. interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial, then it is not a social process.
3. Traditional classroom education can not develop students’ insights.
4. truly a social process is effective.
5. Traditional classroom education is ineffective if it does not develop students’ insights.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed? --- we need to find an assumption The educator’s conclusion follows

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs. --- What is genuine education?
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial. --- yes true but what if the teacher acts from outside the group. if will be effective then ?
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial. --- not affecting the conclusion.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight. --- seems right. Can education be effective if it does not lead to the development of insight. Correct one.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom. ---- nope.
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Type: Find the assumption.

Conclusion: Traditional classroom education is ineffective


(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
- 'genuine' education is not dealt with anywhere in the passage.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial. - Using the neither-nor structure, (B) introduces an option between ''not being rigid'' and ''not being artificial''. the passage does not provide such options.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial. - the passage does not provide us with information that helps us establish ''what'' all social processes contains.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight. - This is the missing link that makes the conclusion complete because it establishes the link between ''traditional educational environment not effective'' and ''only social processes can develop students’ insights'' premises of the argument. Therefore, (D) is the right answer choice.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom. - irrelevant to the conclusion.
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Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students’ insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.

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(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs. - No mention of genuine education here.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial. - we cant say that education will be effective if teacher is not rigid nor artificial. Maybe, there are other factors that contribute in effective education.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial. - This was close as it is one of the reason for ineffective education but is this reason enough for our conclusion to fall apart. Lets take that all social processes do not involve interactions that are neither rigid nor ineffective but would that make our conclusion that traditional classroom education is ineffective false. No, it wont. There can be different reasons for the education to be ineffective. Assumption should be such it shatters the conclusion when made.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.- This is correct. IF we negate this - Education is effective even if it doesnt lead to the development of insight. Now, in this case, education is independent of insights which means we dont need social process and everything else also doesnt matter. Insights are the single most important thing for our education to be effective.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom. - We cant say how teacher acts but does this affect the conclusion of effective teaching. NO.
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Could you please help in solving using POE?
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Could you please help in solving using POE?


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Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students’ insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?


Cause and Effect questions can be solved using arrows:
TCE--> ineffective --> not a social process --> not (develop students’ insights)
TCE--> teacher outside ----> interaction artificial and rigid

Points to Note:
Avoid Extreme language
Stay with in scope (About Traditional education)


Quote:
(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
Alert: “ONLY IF”
Alert: genuine education? Not talked in passage
Out of scope and extreme language - Reject

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(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
Its looks tempting and similar pattern of wrong answers
(Example: If it given A leads to B. We cannot say, if no A then it doesn’t lead to B or maybe C can lead to B)
It is given: Education is ineffective if xyz. We can’t conclude what would happen If it is effective?
Out of Scope-reject

Quote:
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
Alert: “All”
Out of scope: We are only given interaction in Traditional language is rigid and artificial.
It has pattern of wrong answer choices
Reject

Quote:
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
As soon as I read not effective, i find this could be answer choice (because most of patterns have out of scope words). Further reading “development of insight.”
Statement is in scope of argument.
What does it say?
Education--> Ineffective --> unless insight development
Check from our analysis, what we say:
TCE--> ineffective > not a social process --> not (develop students’ insights)
Matches exactly our analysis:
Correct
(Go to E to confirm if any subtle difference with D, if at all)


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(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.
Out of scope: nontraditional classroom.
We don’t know how the teacher act from such a group.
Reject

Hence D is our clear answer.
(All the wrong options were not even close)
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Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students’ insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.

Source: LSAT

Premises:
Education in a traditional classroom is not truly a social process.
Only social processes can develop students’ insights.
In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group.
In the traditional classroom, interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

Conclusion: Traditional classroom education is ineffective.

We need an option which will make the conclusion logically follow. It should be sufficient for the conclusion to follow. It is between (C) and (D).

(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.

Good option. Plugs the gap between "social process" and "rigid interaction". But does it lead to conclusion? No. We still haven't linked "development of insight" to effective education.

(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.

An "unless condition." Convert "Unless A, B" to "A is necessary for not B".
This tells us that development of insight is necessary for education to be effective.
Great. This links "development of insight" to effective education. Now, here is the point - you do not NEED to plug the gap between "social process" and "rigid interaction" for your conclusion to hold but you do need to link "development of insight" to effective education. That is why option (D) is correct.

Now see what we have:

Premises:
Education in a traditional classroom is not truly a social process.
Only social processes can develop students’ insights.
Development of insight is necessary for education to be effective. (the correct option)

Conclusion: Traditional classroom education is ineffective.

Perfect. With these premises, we can logically conclude our conclusion. The other two premises we have above are just a distraction and are actually not needed.­

Answer (D)
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D is the answer, because the passage highlights that 1) Traditional classroom education is ineffective (the conclusion) 2) because the environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students' insights (the premise). This thus suggest that developing students' insights is a prerequisite for an effective education.

A is not correct because while the passage implies that genuine education can only take place with development of insights, it does not imply the opposite (that development of insights is only possible if genuine education occurs).

B is not correct since the option suggests that classroom education is effective only if the interaction is neither rigid nor artificial (both conditions to be fulfilled). However, the passage does not rule out the possibility that effective classroom education can occur if the interaction is rigid but not artificial OR not rigid but artifical.

C is not correct. The passage does not rule out the fact that social processes could be rigid but not artificial OR not rigid but artifical.

E is not correct. While the passage implies that the teacher acts from outside the group in a traditional classroom, the passage does not imply the opposite (that the teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom).


Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students’ insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator’s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.
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I’d like to point out why I chose D over C: Saying “only social processes” and “all social processes” are not the same thing. This is a fallacy of logic that you can explore further in a separate forum. Remember that answers containing “all,” “none,” “never,” “always” have to be carefully examined because they can introduce a different assumption or fallacy of logic from the one you’re looking for to mark the correct answer choice.
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Educator: Traditional classroom education is ineffective because education in such an environment is not truly a social process and only social processes can develop students??? insights. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial.

The educator???s conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.
(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.
(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.
(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.
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(A) Development of insight takes place only if genuine education also occurs.

Text says insight brings genuine education. This option switches the cause and effect.

(B) Classroom education is effective if the interaction between teachers and students is neither rigid nor artificial.

Text: if rigid then non effective. Means that if effective then it was non rigid.
B says if non rigid then effective. Again switches cause and effect


(C) All social processes involve interaction that is neither rigid nor artificial.

Out of scope. We can’t say anything about all social processes.

(D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.

Text: if insight is made, then effective education. OR: if not effective education, the must be There was no insight. This option states the same. Correct

(E) The teacher does not act from outside the group in a nontraditional classroom.

Text: if traditional , then teacher outside. Or: if teacher inside , then non traditional. This option reverses cause and effect again

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