InDoubtApproved
Hey guys, I always loved reading arguments on School choice, and I thought by the time I reached the stage I'm in now, I wouldn't have much trouble deciding. Well, I thought wrong!
The thing is: I've been accepted at Oxford/Said, Cambridge/Judge, and HEC Paris. I'm still waiting on a decision on INSEAD, which comes out March, 18th.
And I'd love your help in deciding among them!
I had the amazing opportunity to visit all their campi, and speak to alumni, admissions staff and attend interviews, which I guess put me on a position of an "informed" applicant.
My background is in IB-M&A, having worked in a large bank and smaller boutiques (5 years WE). I'm planning on making a move to general management (Industry), but I would also like to be well placed if I change my mind and decide to do Consulting instead. I intend to stay in Europe after the program (hence my choice of schools).
So, whack away at my 3 options (Said/Judge/HEC), and if you can, please provide your opinion: if also accepted at INSEAD, should I attend it above your main pick among the other 3?
Current thoughts:
INSEAD
Pros
- Overall great placements. They seem to have the best careers department and the highest salaries across the board. "MBA Juggernaut"
- Ranking and prestige. It occupies (together with LBS) the 1st tier of programs
Cons
- There is no opportunity to do an internship
- The overall culture of partying (I'm not a huge party goer myself) - It seems much less serious than other programs, maybe because of younger admits.
- The fact that 70% of the cohort changes campus during the Program. To strengthen you relationships with colleagues, you have to keep up with them, and this results in a 10 month program in which you have to move abroad TWICE (Fonty to Singapore, and back).
Now, some takeaways from my visits that might not be common knowledge:
- Oxford: Medium city vibe - although small, it is very active and well provided in terms of services and shops. Feels much larger than Cambridge.
- Cambridge: Small city vibe - It is much smaller in terms of services and shops available than Oxford. It also deals (I don't know why) with a LOT more tourists than Oxford (maybe because they all concentrate around King's College). Apparently, inhabitants don't feel very happy about it. Also, the traffic is terrible.
- HEC Paris: What city? - The HEC Campus is huge and gorgeous, and there is a supermarket right next to it, but there isn't much more than that. Jouy en Josas is a very picturesque city, very calm. If you're after exciting activities, good shops or services, you'll have to take the 45 min train ride to Paris.
- INSEAD: Fontainebleau - It is a mixture of HEC Paris and Cambridge. It has an huge amazing campus, and a small city next to it, with some shops and services. Also, the town itself is very touristic, due to the Chateau de Fontainebleau.
Also, note that you are not allowed to have a car if you are a Cambridge or Oxford student. It is an unenforceable rule, but it exists.
Hi! congrats on the admits.
There are two points I believe that might not be correct about INSEAD:
INSEAD's class of 2015 has an average age of 29. So I don't really understand what you meant by "younger admits". Older professionals, like myself, prefer INSEAD's program because of the length of 1 year.
"much less serious than other programs": how? why? I really need to hear your point. Just because there are 20 people partying in a video on youtube does not mean the other 480 applicants are playing around. And just because those 20 people are partying, does not mean that they are not serious. I think you'll need to get in touch with current students or alumni and fill the gaps you're missing. Also, how do you explain the fact that the top 3 consulting companies recruit heavily from INSEAD.
I believe you should exclude INSEAD for now as the cons stated do no make much sense, except for the last point about the campus change - which I see as a relevant point. This is not to discourage you, but to keep you from accepting a school that you might have not done much research on.
Aside from that I cannot help you choose among the other schools. But I do know a friend who attended Oxford and he enjoyed it. It's not heavy focused on consulting so that's when I didn't pay much interest in the program.
Good luck