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GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   12 Feb 2016, 06:37
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Hi guys,

I took the GMAT two months ago and I got 680 (Q47 V38). I was pretty disappointed and I decided to retake it in a few days. As a non-native english speaker, I thought the best strategy would be to improve a lot in quant in order to get a 50-51 and a little bit in Verbal (40ish). I worked pretty hard and took around 10-12 quant tests on this website recently and I get 50-51 quite often. Even when I do full length tests, I manage to get 49-51. I don't know if it is because I really improved in quant or because the GMAT Club quant tests are a bit easy compared to the real GMAT.

So my question is: Do you find GMAT Club quant tests easier than the real GMAT?

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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   12 Feb 2016, 11:47
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Hi hugomaure,

First off, a 680/Q47 is a strong score (it's right around the 85th percentile overall), so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. If you've actually scheduled your GMAT for a few days from now, then there's no harm in retaking the Test, but it might not actually be necessary.

1) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
2) When are you planning to apply?

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GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   12 Feb 2016, 12:41
I'm applying to HEC Paris, LSE, LBS, EM Lyon, Bocconi, HEC Lausanne and a few other french schools/universities for a Master in Management (MiM). I'm currently filling the application for most schools. I really wanted to get a 700 scores and it might be a good thing for the top 2/3 schools. I graduated with honors at a french university and spent my last year as an international student at the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley. Also, I've done an internship in a Swiss Private Bank (2 months) and worked a few months for a start-up.
I've got good grades (3.7 GPA at Haas), however I'm not 100% sure that I have a good chance to get into HEC, LSE or LBS. That's why I want to get a very good score (720-730) this time. What do you think?

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it! :-D
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Hi hugomaure,

Since you're planning on applying to some competitive Schools, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of them here:

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If you do end up choosing to retest, then you should post back here (or PM me directly) and I'll offer some suggestions.

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Hi,

I retook the GMAT this morning and got Q50 V39 for a 730 overall (IR 8). Look forward to hearing from you :)
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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2016, 07:01
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I retook the GMAT this morning and got Q50 V39 for a 730 overall (IR 8). Look forward to hearing from you :)



Congratulations! Glad to hear the scores were close enough between GMAT Club tests and your official score!
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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2016, 07:17
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I retook the GMAT this morning and got Q50 V39 for a 730 overall (IR 8). Look forward to hearing from you :)



Congratulations! Glad to hear the scores were close enough between GMAT Club tests and your official score!


Hi bb,

I would say the Quant questions in our club are the best one can see around. The efforts put in in creating these is appreciable..
congrats hugomaure...
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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2016, 07:43
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I confirm that your quant questions are the best I've seen. IMO they are a bit harder but prepare very well to the real test. Congrats for your wonderful work! My subscription was definitely a great investment.
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hugomaure wrote:
I confirm that your quant questions are the best I've seen. IMO they are a bit harder but prepare very well to the real test. Congrats for your wonderful work! My subscription was definitely a great investment.



Wow - thank you for a great endorsement :oops:
P.S. Coincidentally, I have just finished running our annual analysis analzing difference ins cores between our tests and official test results based on user reports. In general, the standard error is 2 points based on those results, which I think is acceptable since people tend not to put as much effort into their practice tests (most results were slightly lower). Here is a histogram showing difference in points of Q score.

A negative number means that the user has received a lower GMAT Club tests score than on the real GMAT.
A positive number means that GMAT Club tests score was higher than the actual GMAT score.

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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2016, 10:09
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hugomaure wrote:
I confirm that your quant questions are the best I've seen. IMO they are a bit harder but prepare very well to the real test. Congrats for your wonderful work! My subscription was definitely a great investment.



Wow - thank you for a great endorsement :oops:
P.S. Coincidentally, I have just finished running our annual analysis analzing difference ins cores between our tests and official test results based on user reports. In general, the standard error is 2 points based on those results, which I think is acceptable since people tend not to put as much effort into their practice tests (most results were slightly lower). Here is a histogram showing difference in points of Q score.

A negative number means that the user has received a lower GMAT Club tests score than on the real GMAT.
A positive number means that GMAT Club tests score was higher than the actual GMAT score.

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2016-02-17_0655.png


That is a great result. I too, find GMATClub's Q tests more real than the ones from Kaplan/Economist/MGMAT.
as a matter of fact, my gmatprep's score (last one) is in the same range as my latest Q test on gmatclub.

on verbal though, I saw some debatable questions.
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mvictor wrote:
That is a great result. I too, find GMATClub's Q tests more real than the ones from Kaplan/Economist/MGMAT.
as a matter of fact, my gmatprep's score (last one) is in the same range as my latest Q test on gmatclub.

on verbal though, I saw some debatable questions.


I don't know about the question quality but the scoring for verbal is way off. I missed two questions total (one 700 one 600) and got a V39. Seems incorrect, especially when missing 5 on a GMAT Prep gives me a V45.
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Re: GMATClub Quant tests easy/hard? [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2016, 10:47
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That is a great result. I too, find GMATClub's Q tests more real than the ones from Kaplan/Economist/MGMAT.
as a matter of fact, my gmatprep's score (last one) is in the same range as my latest Q test on gmatclub.

on verbal though, I saw some debatable questions.


I don't know about the question quality but the scoring for verbal is way off. I missed two questions total (one 700 one 600) and got a V39. Seems incorrect, especially when missing 5 on a GMAT Prep gives me a V45.


Indeed..I was receiving 500 level questions one after another (I believe ~10Q) during one test ..even though I responded correctly, the difficulty level did not go up. But from what bb said, the problem is already fixed.
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mvictor wrote:
That is a great result. I too, find GMATClub's Q tests more real than the ones from Kaplan/Economist/MGMAT.
as a matter of fact, my gmatprep's score (last one) is in the same range as my latest Q test on gmatclub.

on verbal though, I saw some debatable questions.


I don't know about the question quality but the scoring for verbal is way off. I missed two questions total (one 700 one 600) and got a V39. Seems incorrect, especially when missing 5 on a GMAT Prep gives me a V45.



Kelzie01,

I don't see you taking a CAT test actually. You took a free verbal test in which you scored 95% correctly. The free test scoring is based on a very different and very very simple system/method. I suggest that you take a CAT test (the free test is linear; we are working to make the free one CATs as well to reduce this kind of confusion)... anyway, please take a CAT test.

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Hi hugomaure,

That's outstanding news about this latest GMAT Score. With a 730/Q50, you're in an even stronger position to apply to each of the Schools that you listed. My prior advice still stands though - since you're planning on applying to some competitive Schools, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of them here:

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bb wrote:
I don't see you taking a CAT test actually. You took a free verbal test in which you scored 95% correctly. The free test scoring is based on a very different and very very simple system/method. I suggest that you take a CAT test (the free test is linear; we are working to make the free one CATs as well to reduce this kind of confusion)... anyway, please take a CAT test.

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My apologies for maligning your CAT in that case. That makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for not publishing my quant score. :wink:
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bb wrote:
I don't see you taking a CAT test actually. You took a free verbal test in which you scored 95% correctly. The free test scoring is based on a very different and very very simple system/method. I suggest that you take a CAT test (the free test is linear; we are working to make the free one CATs as well to reduce this kind of confusion)... anyway, please take a CAT test.

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My apologies for maligning your CAT in that case. That makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for not publishing my quant score. :wink:



Ha-ha. No problem. I did not notice it, but you made me go back and look it up now, and I would have the same suggestion for you in that case - please take a CAT and that should have a much better handle on your score and give you a pretty accurate picture where you stand.
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Ha-ha. No problem. I did not notice it, but you made me go back and look it up now, and I would have the same suggestion for you in that case - please take a CAT and that should have a much better handle on your score and give you a pretty accurate picture where you stand.


I will cause now I'M curious. I only have two more CATs scheduled before G-Day (Q49, V51 on my last GMAT Prep! Woot!!) but I'm interested in the verbal questions now since it was brought up and they're kinda my fave.
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LOL. Payback! Sounds great to me! Look forward.

Congrats on the Q49/V51 - The V51 is supper rare!
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LOL. Payback! Sounds great to me! Look forward.

Congrats on the Q49/V51 - The V51 is supper rare!


Yeah, I'm still a little giddy. Now just have to pull that off on the real test!
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I only have two more CATs scheduled before G-Day (Q49, V51 on my last GMAT Prep! Woot!!) but I'm interested in the verbal questions now since it was brought up and they're kinda my fave.
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