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334. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

can you explain why ... is right?
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334. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

can you explane why ... is right?


My ans is A
//ism--> require that at the ending of the answer choices. Eliminate B,C,D
In E, it is the run on sentence (2 sentences without conjunction)--> A remains
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334. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

We need a 'that' in the end of the underline portion to make it parallel to 'and that the government...'
Hencee only A and E are left...
With E... it forms a run off sentence and hence is rejected...

I would go with A....!
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I don't feel like going with any of the choices ,
Even if I go by Jeeteshsingh's logic and narrow down to A , I still feel that many shd characterize united states voters.
Sm1 please explain...????

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Thanks for posting with underline jeeteshsingh, it really helps with these sc problems on the forum.

@ raths are you referring to the usage of many vs. much? If so, many would be incorrect here because the sentence isn't requiring the number of voters that agree but rather to the extent the voters agree (how much they agree the govt spends too much). This is needed for the contrast in the second half of the sentence.

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yea. we cannot use much with voters (countable). I went with D which sounded much better except 'that' is missing at the end

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There is an aspect of altered intent to this question, which seems to have been overlooked so far. The passage states that ‘However much United States voters “may agree”. This “may agree” part is an important intent of the text. Changing the ‘may agree’ to “agreement” in B and E and simply to “agree” in choice C indulges in substantial alteration of intent.

This leaves us with choices A and D; D is however woefully inadequate in llism, by dropping the connector “that” in the first part.
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IMO -E there.........that... that is necessary .without that sentence will be ambiguous

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The answer is A based on llism.
That X...and that Y

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+1 A

Parallelism requires "that".
We need a subordinator, "however", to avoid a run on sentence.
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However much United States voters may agree that there is a waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towards a minimal state

a) However much United States voters may agree that
b) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
c) Although United States voters agree
d) Even though United Staes voters may agree
e) There is agreement among United States voters that


The answer to this A. I agree.
Am just a little confused - I read in MGMAT that HOWEVER is a conjugative adverb, that should be used with semi colons and not commas, since terms like these are transitional and not actually conjunctions.. Any thoughts?

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Good question :)

We use 'however' as a conjunctive adverb showing contrast that we forget that it has another function: to express
extent. Let's have a look:

1. However much he prepped, he couldn't get a perfect score.

2. We must address all the concerns, however trivial some may be.

3. However, may concerns are of paramount importance and must be dealt with immediately.

The first two sentences use 'however' to express extent. When 'however' is used in this way it does not require a comma immediately following it. If 'however' is used to show contrast, as in sentence 3, then it needs a comma immediately following it.

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Thanks for the response Chris.. if I am using However as a sub-ordinator as follows
he likes to go to the market,however he will not go this week

if i havnt misunderstood, the portions on both sides of the comma are clauses and hence comma should not be used.we should rephrase as

he likes to go to the market;however he will not go this week

Is my understanding correct?

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It actually gets a little tricky if you use 'however' as a subordinate conjunction. If you join to independent clauses - as you did - then you must use the semi-colon with however. You must also put a comma in front of however, the way you would when however is used as a subordinate conjunction the beginning of the sentence.

He likes to go to market; however, he will not go this week.

Another important thing: however, when used as a Sub. Conj. can also go near the beginning of the sentence.

The man with the dog, however, could not dine at the restaurant.

Notice that 'the man with the dog' is not a dependent clause. Therefore ', however,' is correct and you do not need to use a semi-colon. Besides the placement of 'however,' this sentence is no different from:

However, the man with the dog could not dine at the restaurant.

Where a writer put the 'however' depends on the rhythm of the sentence. However, it is important to note that some grammar sticklers (influenced by Strunk and Whites Elements of Style), believe it is incorrect to start a sentence with 'however', when however is used as a subordinate conjunction.

The GMAT, however, does not subscribe to this "orthodoxy." I just thought I'd point this out because a google search on 'however' can yield conflicting info.

Hope that helps!
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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a
whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

A. However much United States voters may agree that
B. Despite the agreement among United States voters tot he fact
C. Although United States voters agree
D. Even though United States voters may agree
E. There is agreement among United States voters that

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"Much" is not counting the United States voters. "Much" is referring to how much the voters want something. The meaning of "much" in this problem is the same as in the sentence "No matter how much Bob wants ice cream, he will not get any." That means that no matter how great Bob's desire for ice cream is, he will not get any.

"Many" would be correct if the sentence was something like "Many United States voters that there is waste in government, that the government as a
whole spends beyond its means, and that it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state." In this case the voters are counted. The sentence is trying to say that a lot of voters agree with something.

I hope that helps :)
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that there is waste in government and that the government -- ||ism

between A and E -- A is better, E is wordy.

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arkle wrote:
that there is waste in government and that the government -- ||ism

between A and E -- A is better, E is wordy.



Just want to elaborate your answer a bit.

E is wrong because "may agree" in A is totally different from "an agreement" in E.

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So,why is E wrong? "agreement" is wrong?

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