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If x and y are integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

A) -2
B) -1
C) 3
D) 4
E) 5


A few observations that we can make -

  • \((x-y)^2\) and \(2y^2\) will always be a non-negative integers.
  • The value of \(2y^2\) will be same for \(\pm y\)

Let's assume some values of \(y\) and obtain the corresponding value for \((x-y)^2\) -

1) \(y = \pm1\)

\((x-y)^2 + 2 = 27\)

\((x - y)^2 = 25\)

\((x - y) = \pm 5\)

As \(x - y\) is an integer, we can have \(y = \pm1\). Let's look at a few other values.

2) \(y = \pm2\)

\((x-y)^2 + 8 = 27\)

\((x-y)^2 = 27 - 8 = 19\)

Eliminate this possibility, as \(x - y\) will not be an integer.

3) \(y = \pm3\)

\((x-y)^2 + 18 = 27\)

\((x-y)^2 = 9\)

As \(x - y\) is an integer, we can have \(y = \pm3\)

\((x-y) = \pm3\)

We further observe that \(y\) cannot be greater than \(3\) or less than \(-3\), as that would result in \((x - y)^2\) = negative. This is not possible.

Let's take the first case-

\(y = \pm1\)

\((x - y)^2 = 25\)

\((x - y) = \pm 5\)

Case 1(A): y = 1, x = 5

x - 1 = 5

x = 6 → We don't have this in the option. Hence, eliminate

Case 1(B): y = -1, x = 5

x + 1 = 5

x = 4 → Matches option D.

Hence, we need not try other possibilities.

Option D
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If x and y are integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

A) -2
B) -1
C) 3
D) 4
E) 5

\((x-y)^2 + 2y^2 = 27\)

Since x and y are integers, \((x-y)^2\) and \(y^2\) are both perfect squares.

Since the left side must sum to 27, \(y^2\) must be equal to a perfect square less than 27, yielding the following options for \(y^2\):
0, 1, 4, 9, 16, 25

To yield a sum of 27, one possible option for \(y^2\) is 1, with the result that \((x-y)^2=25\) and that \(x-y=±5\).
If \(y=±1\), only D among the answer choices will yield a viable option for \(x\):
\(x=4\) and \(y=-1\), with result that \(x-y = 4-(-1) = 5\)

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If \(x\) and \(y\) are both integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2(y^2) = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

a. -2
b. -1
c. 3
d. 4
e. 5


This question could seem impossible to answer since we have just one equation and two variables. However, we have two additional constraints.

The first is that \(x\) and \(y\) must both be integers.

The second is that the possible values of \(x\) are limited to the set of answer choices.

So, since this is a GMAT Quant question, we'll know that we'll be able to answer it by using those constraints.

Given that \(x\) and \(y\) are integers and that \((x-y)^2 + 2(y^2) = 27\), what we have are one times one perfect square + two times a second perfect square adding up to \(27\). So, one way we can answer this question is to simply consider all the perfect squares that are less than \(27\), identify which ones add up to \(27\) and find a value of \(x\) that works.

It's not a super elegant way of answering the question, but it demonstrates a key GMAT Quant characteristic, which is that GMAT Quant questions are designed to test our skill in simply finding a way to get to an answer. So, if you don't quickly see an elegant mathematical way to answer a question, it's likely that you'll be fine just using a brute force method to get it done.

There are six perfect squares less than \(27\): \(0\), \(1\), \(4\), \(9\), \(16\), \(25\).

Scanning them, we quickly see that only \(0\), \(1\), \(4\), and \(9\) can be doubled since \(2\) x \(16\) and \(2\) x \(25\) are greater than \(27\).

Then, considering possible ways of getting to \(27\), we see that there are only two: \(25 + 2(1) = 27\) and \(9 + 2(9) = 27\).

In the first case, \(y^2 = 1\). So, \(y\) must be \(1\) or \(-1\). Then, for \((x - y)^2\) to equal \(25\), \(x - y\) must be \(5\) or \(-5\).

So, if \(y = 1\), then \(x\) must be \(6\)\(\) or \(-4\). Since neither \(6\) nor \(-4\) are among the answer choices, this path to \(27\) won't work.

If \(y = -1\), then for \(x - y\) to equal \(5\) or \(-5\), x can be \(4\) or \(-6\).

We see that \(4\) is among the answer choices.

So, the correct answer is (D).
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If x and y are integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

A) -2
B) -1
C) 3
D) 4
E) 5

\((x-y)^2 + 2y^2 = 27\)

Since x and y are integers, \((x-y)^2\) and \(y^2\) are both perfect squares.

Since the left side must sum to 27, \(y^2\) must be equal to a perfect square less than 27, yielding the following options for \(y^2\):
0, 1, 4, 9, 16, 25

To yield a sum of 27, the only possible option for \(y^2\) is 1, with the result that \((x-y)^2=25\) and that \(x-y=±5\).
Since \(y=±1\), only D among the answer choicies offers a viable option for \(x\):
\(x=4\) and \(y=-1\), with result that \(x-y = 4-(-1) = 5\)

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y^2 could also be 9.
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y^2 could also be 9.

Given the answer choices, 9 is not a viable option for \(y^2\) because \(y=±3\) would require that \(x=0\) or \(x=6\), neither of which is among the five options.
I've edited my response to clarify that 1 is one possible option for \(y^2\).
Since this option yields a value for \(x\) that is among the five answer choices, no need to look any further.
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y^2 could also be 9.

Given the answer choices, 9 is not a viable option for \(y^2\) because \(y=±3\) would require that \(x=0\) or \(x=6\), neither of which is among the five options.
I've edited my response to clarify that 1 is one possible option for \(y^2\).
Since this option yields a value for \(x\) that is among the five answer choices, no need to look any further.

Yes, y^2 = 9 does not yield an x value that is among the answer choices, nor was I implying that it does. I was simply pointing out that 1 is not "the only possible option for y^2".
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Given the answer choices, 9 is not a viable option for \(y^2\) because \(y=±3\) would require that \(x=0\) or \(x=6\), neither of which is among the five options.
I've edited my response to clarify that 1 is one possible option for \(y^2\).
Since this option yields a value for \(x\) that is among the five answer choices, no need to look any further.

Yes, y^2 = 9 does not yield an x value that is among the answer choices, nor was I implying that it does. I was simply pointing out that 1 is not "the only possible option for y^2".

Agreed. As the Wordle bot states when the bot and I come to the same conclusion, "We are as one."
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Bunuel, if we pick a value of X from the given option, will that be a long procedure to find out the solution? Also, if we pick a value from the options, is there a way to do a faster calculation?
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Bunuel, if we pick a value of X from the given option, will that be a long procedure to find out the solution? Also, if we pick a value from the options, is there a way to do a faster calculation?

I wouldn't approach this question by plugging in options. You'll end up with ugly quadratics for y, trying to figure out if there's an integer solution.
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\(3y^2-2xy+x^2-27=0\)

1) Reframe the eq as quadaratic in \(y\)
2) Find Discrimiant as function of \(x\)

\(D(x)=4x^2-4*3(x^2-27)= 4(81-2x^2)\)
\(D(x)>=0\) and of form \(N^2\)

\(D(4)=4(81-32)=14^2\)
\(D(x)>=0\) follows that \(-9/rt(2)<=x<=9/rt(2)\)
\(=> -5<=x<=5\)
\(D(x)\) is integer at \(x=0,4,-4,6,-6\)

Tick \(x=4\)
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This is one of the hardest problems I have encountered. Is it normal to get a question like this as your first question on the GMAT Focus? It took me way too long to solve this
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Solved using Quadratic formula( maybe longer but fewer guesses and makes more sense to me)

y1,2 = (-b (+ or -) (b^2 - 4 * a * c)^(1/2)) / 2a
so I want to find when (b^2 - 4 * a * c) ^ 1/2 is an integer because: an integer (+ or -) non integer is not an integer

x^2 -2xy +3y^2 -27 = 0

when x= -2
3y^2 + 4y - 23 = 0
using the Quadratic formula (b^2 - 4*a*c)^(1/2) => (16 + 4*3*23)^(1/2) = 292^(1/2) is not an integer

when x= -1
(4+26*4*3)^(1/2) = (316)^(1/2) not an integer

when x= 3
(36+ 3*4*18)^(1/2) = 252^1/2 not an integer

when x= 4
(64+12*11)^1/2 = 196^1/2 is an integer

when x=5
(100+ 12*2)^1/2 = 124^1/2 not an integer­
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This shouldn't be too difficult because the first obvious test yields the answer.

With 27 on the RHS and a square and multiple of two on LHS, seems logical to assume Y=1 and subtract 2 from RHS yielding a nice 25 and solving for (X-Y)^2 on left gives X=6.

Well, that not being among answer choices, recognize Y= -1 also works and solving again yields X = 4.

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If x and y are integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

A) -2
B) -1
C) 3
D) 4
E) 5

PD: Is there a way to solve this without having to try every value of x and solving the equation for y?

We are given a second degree equation in 2 variables and asked the possible value of one of the variables. We know that there are infinite values in such a case. But here we are given that both variables must be integers and that reduces our number of acceptable values.

x will vary as y will take different values. I have a 2y^2 on the left and another square. On the right I have 27 which is a very small number. This means my y^2 will be less than 14 and hence the only options for y I have are 0, 1, 2, 3 and negatives. Since y is squared in 2y^2, I will ignore the negatives to begin with.

Put y = 0, we get \((x-y)^2 = 27\). Eliminate

Put y = 1, we get \((x - y)^2 = 25\)

So (x-y) can be 5 or -5.
y can be 1 or -1. Possible values are 6, -4, 4, -6


Answer (D)

Had we not got an answer, we would have continued with other 2 values y = 2 and y = 3.
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If x and y are integers and if \((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\), which of the following could be the value of x?

\((x-y)^2 + 2*y^2 = 27\)

y = 1; (x-y)^2 = 25; x -y = 5 ; x = 6; y - x = 5; x = -4
y = 3; (x-y)^2 = 9 ; x - y = 3; x = 6; y - x = 3; x = 0
y = -1 ; (x-y)^2 = 25; x -y = 5 ; x = 4; y - x = 5; x = -5

IMO D
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