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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.


A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor

C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor

D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the

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1. The core meaning is that the vacationers are trying to avoid either of two sets of negatives 1.the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables 2. the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels. An ‘and’ between the two arms of the first negative and another fanboy to connect the second with the first, in this case ‘or’ are requisites. The vacationers want none of them.
2. One negative ‘with none’ or ‘without’ in the first part and a positive such as ‘with’ in the second part is antithetical.
3. Be careful to avoid double negatives.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the --- wrong as per point 2 said above.
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor –none and nor are double negatives ----wrong; there should be an ‘and’ between trains and railroad
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor—double negatives
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the – wrong as in A
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the ----- correct
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E for me


rest all use "nor" and "with" wrongly


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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - "with" is awkward
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor - "with" is awkward
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor - "nor" did not fit here
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - "with the" missing the ||ism
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the - correct
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rest all use "nor" and "with" wrongly


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E. It clearly brings out the logical meaning and corrects structure of sentence.
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From IDIOM list offered in SC aristotle book:

"Restrictions Of " is not idiomatic and it should be "restrictions on".

so all ACs has diomatic error?
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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the



I went with D...
Without X or with Y

For I felt both are not parllel...
without X or Y (this changes intended meaning)
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seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the



I went with D...
Without X or with Y

For I felt both are not parllel...
without X or Y (this changes intended meaning)

or with changes the meaning (there is a restriction of formalities and expenses)

IMO E
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or is a parallelism opearator... so with is mandatory after or since the first clause starts with with..... D in my opinion.....
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seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the


'Allowed them to enjoy nature' WITHOUT the restrictions should be used here. Hence, A and B are out
Now between C,D, and E, without nor is clearly incorrect as it is a double negative. So C is out
Now between D and E, do we need the with before? Without the restrictions or the formalities sound good to me!
Therefore IMO, correct answer should be (E).

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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor

C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor

D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the
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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor


C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor


D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the


E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the


there are two different things attached with 'or'
1)the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables
2) the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

we have to choose the choice which connects these two parts properly
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
with none in second part is required

B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
and omitted

C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
parallelism issue

D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
same as A

E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the
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Without restriction X or (restriction) Y

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seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the


hard one.
nor is used after neither
I learn neither english or french language
nor is use after nagative clause.
I do not learn english neither I go out for change.

so, the use of nor in choice C is incorrect.
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seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the


hard one.
nor is used after neither
I learn neither english or french language
nor is use after nagative clause.
I do not learn english neither I go out for change.

so, the use of nor in choice C is incorrect.


Correct that C is not correct. But nor comes tougher with neither.
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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the

We need two clauses
1> without the restriction of passenger trails and railroad trouble.
2> without the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels

B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor => B is wrong because you need (X and Y) structure
C. without X nor Y => it should be without X and Y (without X or Y) - Introduces double negetives
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the

E => correct
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Can we use 'nor' without neither like we use 'or' without either in some sentences?


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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - meaning error - the sentence intends to say that by driving automobiles and sleeping in tents, vacationers are able to enjoy nature and tour at their own pace without any restrictions of trains or formalities of hotels. However, the way it is constructed right now, the sentence conveys an illogical meaning that “vacationers enjoy nature and tour at their own pace with the formalities of hotels”.
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor - idiom error - “nor” should be preceded by “neither” while writing down the elements of a list.
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor - same as B
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - meaning error - Having without restrictions and with formalities as elements of a list implies that vacationers do not have restrictions of trains but have to face the formalities of hotels.
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the-Correct

Answer E
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