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New post 30 Jun 2016, 22:47
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strange thing though with verbal
V38
first part 62%
second part 57%
third part 71%
fourth part 62%

mine 30:
1st - 62%
2nd - 71%
3rd - 86%
4th - 62%

although I was better of overall, I got a lower score.
I really don't understand why getting to the hard verbal questions is so hard, even though you answer questions correctly...


I also don't get the same difference. Really catchy :D
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New post 01 Jul 2016, 01:14
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Hi Crazypanda,

Yours are really different stats. the magical early stage 100% accuracy at play :D

Though there is no gyan here. but i see that algorithm got excited to give you a fight after you nailed first 10 with 100% accuracy in verbal. you were on your way to V40+ and it gave some STRANGE questions to tackle after first 10. was it the case??

Looking at quant stats I see that algorithm does give us a chance at the early stage to get up and move the accuracy up but same is not the case in last 10 questions because you may nail all last 10 questions with 100% accuracy but those would be low difficulty questions. No surprise here.


Yes. Questions got really tough by the time i reached Q 9/10. I panicked nd tried to do my best. Today I got at my Beta report and was surprised to know that I was really doing good in early questions :shock: Pity that I'm unable to maintain that momentum.

I will now analyze my mocks in sets of 9 questions to see how much I'm able to push the bar and sustain :)
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New post 01 Jul 2016, 06:07
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mvictor wrote:
strange thing though with verbal
V38
first part 62%
second part 57%
third part 71%
fourth part 62%

mine 30:
1st - 62%
2nd - 71%
3rd - 86%
4th - 62%

although I was better of overall, I got a lower score.
I really don't understand why getting to the hard verbal questions is so hard, even though you answer questions correctly...


It could be the case that the V38 started out stronger and was put on a higher bracket and therefore faced more difficult questions, resulting in a lower accuracy ratio but a higher score. We'll know for sure if the poster shares the average difficulty chart.


but if the difficulty level started at a higher than medium level, it automatically makes the test unfair!!!
hope we'll see the difficulty level chart..
it might be the case that he got no experimental questions in the first set, while I got lots of them, which in the end did not count towards the final score and difficulty level overall..
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New post 01 Jul 2016, 07:12
mvictor wrote:
HanoiGMATtutor wrote:
mvictor wrote:
strange thing though with verbal
V38
first part 62%
second part 57%
third part 71%
fourth part 62%

mine 30:
1st - 62%
2nd - 71%
3rd - 86%
4th - 62%

although I was better of overall, I got a lower score.
I really don't understand why getting to the hard verbal questions is so hard, even though you answer questions correctly...


It could be the case that the V38 started out stronger and was put on a higher bracket and therefore faced more difficult questions, resulting in a lower accuracy ratio but a higher score. We'll know for sure if the poster shares the average difficulty chart.


but if the difficulty level started at a higher than medium level, it automatically makes the test unfair!!!
hope we'll see the difficulty level chart..
it might be the case that he got no experimental questions in the first set, while I got lots of them, which in the end did not count towards the final score and difficulty level overall..



I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)

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I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...
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HanoiGMATtutor wrote:

I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Yes, Only experimental questions can differentiate in this particular case else there seems no other reason. If this is true then new insight is that experimental questions can come so early as well.
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HanoiGMATtutor wrote:

I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Yes, Only experimental questions can differentiate in this particular case else there seems no other reason. If this is true then new insight is that experimental questions can come so early as well.


strange thing though...if experimental don't count at all, then why are these included in the ESR? :)
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strange thing though...if experimental don't count at all, then why are these included in the ESR? :)


because they are part of the counting. by the way, GMAC is not going to give everything crystal clear to us.
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HanoiGMATtutor wrote:

I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Sounds like you overlooked the possibility that your wrong answers are closer to the end of the quarter while the other person's wrong answers are closer to the beginning.
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mvictor wrote:
HanoiGMATtutor wrote:

I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Sounds like you overlooked the possibility that your wrong answers are closer to the end of the quarter while the other person's wrong answers are closer to the beginning.


well, again, these are just guesses..would be good to see the difficulty chart..I believe it will clear the confusion here :)
but what you said can be true..
it might be that I got first questions wrong - thus difficulty level dropped sharply in the beginning, making it tougher to get to hard questions, while he got for ex. 4 right, 1 wrong, 4 right, then again 1 wrong...overall, he will be at a more difficult level than me.
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Well, here's my contribution.
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Well, here's my contribution.



hm..smth strange
your quant shows 41 questions :)
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I see my thunder has been stolen ...

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hm..smth strange
your quant shows 41 questions :)


Many others' do.

Perhaps I was indeed given 4 additional questions. Wasn't really keeping track of time or number of questions. :)
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One thing that can be gleaned from the ESR data is that the quant section does indeed have 9 experimental questions and the verbal has 11 experimental questions. These numbers were what I had seen mentioned for the longest time, but this is the first time it is being confirmed by official data.

And further we can figure out the distribution of the experimental questions. In quantitative, the distribution is 2, 2, 2 and 3, in the chunks of 9, 9, 9, and 10 questions respectively. In verbal, the distribution is 2, 3, 3, 3 in chunks of 10, 10, 10, and 11 questions. One can conclude this from the percentage correct data for the individual scores that have been reported here by students so far.

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[size=110]One thing that can be gleaned from the ESR data is that the quant section does indeed have 9 experimental questions and the verbal has 11 experimental questions. These numbers were what I had seen mentioned for the longest time, but this is the first time it is being confirmed by official data.


Why do you think there are 9 and 11 experimental Qs in quant and verbal?
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One thing that can be gleaned from the ESR data is that the quant section does indeed have 9 experimental questions and the verbal has 11 experimental questions. These numbers were what I had seen mentioned for the longest time, but this is the first time it is being confirmed by official data.


Why do you think there are 9 and 11 experimental Qs in quant and verbal?


Because 2,2,2,3 are the numbers needed for the percentages to make sense for the Quant divisions.
2+2+2+3=9
2,3,3,3 are the numbers for Verbal.
2+3+3+3=11

Does this make sense?

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Hi Nina1987,

If you look at the attached score report you see that the student got 29% incorrect in the second set of 9 questions. The 29% can only result if the student missed 2 questions out of 7, which is 28.57% and is rounded up to 29. This means that only 7 questions out of 9 are counted towards one's score, and 2 are experimental. I did the same analysis on the rest of the reports posted on this thread and one ends up with the distribution of experimental question during the test that I listed earlier.

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got it HanoiGMATtutor and dabral. Really trenchant analysis!
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look at that quant score HiLine! Just 1 question wrong. Thats just insane.
The whole point of your existence is to give complex to us lesser mortals. LOL :)

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