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One thing that can be gleaned from the ESR data is that the quant section does indeed have 9 experimental questions and the verbal has 11 experimental questions. These numbers were what I had seen mentioned for the longest time, but this is the first time it is being confirmed by official data.

And further we can figure out the distribution of the experimental questions. In quantitative, the distribution is 2, 2, 2 and 3, in the chunks of 9, 9, 9, and 10 questions respectively. In verbal, the distribution is 2, 3, 3, 3 in chunks of 10, 10, 10, and 11 questions. One can conclude this from the percentage correct data for the individual scores that have been reported here by students so far.

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So you figure that it is a 9-question pattern for quant and 11-question one for verbal?

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Yes, partly it is because that is how GMAC has chosen to split and disclose the percent correct during the test. They could disclose which questions students got right and wrong, and not disclose anything about the experimental questions. I don't know if there is a fixed pattern for where the experimental questions appear, but I would think that they must randomize the placement of experimental questions.

GMAC could choose to give us a lot more detail similar to what the GRE test used to do in the past. If we look at the old GRE computer adaptive test, ETS used to disclose which particular question students missed, how much time they spent, and what the difficulty level of that question was: see the attached image. The reason ETS could do this was because one of the entire section would count as experimental. That is not the case for GMAT, where experimental questions are sprinkled throughout the test. Also, note that the old GRE CAT used 28 questions in the quant section, and the current GMAT also uses 28 questions if we take out the 9 experimental questions from the total number of 37 questions in the quantitative section. We kind of knew that 25% of the questions were experimental but this was never officially confirmed by GMAC, as far as I know.

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But now we know how many experimental questions there are in the test and roughly how they are distributed.

Of course, I would love GMAC to disclose the time spent on each question and the specific category of problem type along with its difficulty level similar to what the GRE test did in the past. This current division between Algebra and Arithmetic is too coarse and is not of much value for a student who needs to know his/her areas of weakness. I have a feeling they will eventually do this, because that is the general direction they have been heading to. Let's see.

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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.


Are you sure it means that? Look at achinmasli's report- if what you say is true that mean he/she spent 33% of time in first part for only 1 incorrect question. Do you see what I mean?
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Also the new ESR is scary. With so much information out there, I don't know where it is gonna leads us. Will GSB/HBS soon report their averages in 780s???
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.


Are you sure it means that? Look at achinmasli's report- if what you say is true that mean he/she spent 33% of time in first part for only 1 incorrect question. Do you see what I mean?


i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.
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Just to pitch in, personally I also do not like the pie chart representation of average times. I get the concept but it throws me off visually. For myself, a bar or any of other chart would've been better. Maybe it is me.


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All we get as the help from the provided pie chart for time management is that you get to know the average time for wrong answers and average time for a right answer (you only see this when you move the cursor over the red and blue part). As you know the number of wrong questions and right questions percentages from other charts, you can evaluate your timing on an average.
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i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.


Im afraid I still dont get. :(

Continuing your ex. the person would have spent 1min 20sec on an average. Now if the pie chart shows 50-50% red and blue, do you mean she/he spent 40 secs on avg on correct and incorrect questions?
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i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.


Im afraid I still dont get. :(

Continuing your ex. the person would have spent 1min 20sec on an average. Now if the pie chart shows 50-50% red and blue, do you mean she/he spent 40 secs on avg on correct and incorrect questions?


You do not have to assume this. when you move the cursor over the red and blue part you see the individual average time. this will happen only when you open the ESR with the provided link. the same will not happen after to save the report as a pdf.
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All we get as the help from the provided pie chart for time management is that you get to know the average time for wrong answers and average time for a right answer (you only see this when you move the cursor over the red and blue part). As you know the number of wrong questions and right questions percentages from other charts, you can evaluate your timing on an average.


By looking, what I would have assumed is that the blue section is the portion of all time within that quarter that one has spent on the correct answered questions and the red segment is the portion of all time within that quarter one spent on incorrect questions. The average, however throws me off and looks like it is doing the same to a few other folks. (Tell me if I am wrong in my evaluation anywhere here). Thank you for your help!
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i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.


Im afraid I still dont get. :(

Continuing your ex. the person would have spent 1min 20sec on an average. Now if the pie chart shows 50-50% red and blue, do you mean she/he spent 40 secs on avg on correct and incorrect questions?


You do not have to assume this. when you move the cursor over the red and blue part you see the individual average time. this will happen only when you open the ESR with the provided link. the same will not happen after to save the report as a pdf.


So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you
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All we get as the help from the provided pie chart for time management is that you get to know the average time for wrong answers and average time for a right answer (you only see this when you move the cursor over the red and blue part). As you know the number of wrong questions and right questions percentages from other charts, you can evaluate your timing on an average.


By looking, what I would have assumed is that the blue section is the portion of all time within that quarter that one has spent on the correct answered questions and the red segment is the portion of all time within that quarter one spent on incorrect questions. The average, however throws me off and looks like it is doing the same to a few other folks. (Tell me if I am wrong in my evaluation anywhere here). Thank you for your help!


You have evaluated it correctly BB. it is confusing and looks not useful because following is not explicitly mentioned:
Blue - Average time for the correct answers. (move the cursor on the blue portion to know it)
Red - Average time for the wrong answers. (move the cursor on the red portion to know it)

No more confusion now :)
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So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you


Yes. the pie charts presented in ESR are solely depend on time taken by correct questions and incorrect questions. To clarify the same point i have attached this snapshot with explanation. Hope it would help.
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Just to pitch in, personally I also do not like the pie chart representation of average times. I get the concept but it throws me off visually. For myself, a bar or any of other chart would've been better. Maybe it is me.


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That visual representation is pretty intuitive to me ... To each his own, I guess.

It does help that you are able to hover your cursor over the pie charts to understand more clearly what they're saying.
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Thanks for making it clear. Wow do you also get to see how much time you spent on each question and its outcome 'correct/incorrect'?

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So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you


Yes. the pie charts presented in ESR are solely depend on time taken by correct questions and incorrect questions. To clarify the same point i have attached this snapshot with explanation. Hope it would help.

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Thanks for making it clear. Wow do you also get to see how much time you spent on each question and its outcome 'correct/incorrect'?

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So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you


Yes. the pie charts presented in ESR are solely depend on time taken by correct questions and incorrect questions. To clarify the same point i have attached this snapshot with explanation. Hope it would help.


No! We don't get to see the time spent on each question. snapshot of data in excel sheet is prepared by me to answer your query.
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